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02-12-2016, 09:02 AM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
There are such cameras.
D810's ISO100 is real ISO75
ISO64 is real ISO47

K-5IIs has ISO80 = real ISO70

Phase One P40 Plus
ISO100 = real ISO46

Phase One IQ180 Digital Back
ISO200 = real ISO60
ISO100 = real ISO29


Phase One P65Plus
ISO100 = real ISO44
Again,NOT ONE FULLFRAME Camera is using 50 iso as the true lowest iso.
The real ground iso is not 50.
PhaseOne is not fullframe/35mm Sensorsize.

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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
new battery with the same or lower capacity is also an option

Sorry, same as the K3.
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QuoteOriginally posted by vcollerp Quote
Short answer Yes.
Confirmed.
02-12-2016, 09:16 AM   #34
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QuoteOriginally posted by vcollerp Quote
Sorry, same as the K3.
would be good. Can use my K-5 batteries for the K-1

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QuoteOriginally posted by JPT Quote
Here you are!

Original
??????K-1??????????? - ????info

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https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://digicame-info.co...ml&prev=search

36.4 mp
6.5 fps
ISO100-204,800

Note that these sensor specs don't match the D810 sensor, so it reasonable to believe this is a newly developed sensor that happens to have the same pixel count.
well done pentax!
if price is as rumored 2000$ then pentax would bring the best ff to the market!

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QuoteOriginally posted by asahi man Quote
For what 50 iso?
your quitsion gives me an answer that k1 iso not begin from iso 50

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02-12-2016, 09:32 AM   #36
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QuoteOriginally posted by asahi man Quote
Again,NOT ONE FULLFRAME Camera is using 50 iso as the true lowest iso.
The real ground iso is not 50.
PhaseOne is not fullframe/35mm Sensorsize.
You don't understand my post. I can repeat


Nikon D810 has marked ISO100 and ISO64. And even ISO32. But ISO32 is already not real - "software ISO".
ISO64 is "hardware ISO". IT'S TRUE ISO.

D810 with ISO64 allow to make photo with exposure as real ISO47. DR is 14.76EV.

Don't forget that cameras have the highest DR at real low ISO. My K-5IIs at ISO80 is 1 STOP better than at ISO200.



Low ISO means highest DR, lowest noise and highest resolution. ISO50 is just symbolic ISO in our discussion.
Will K-1 have ISO lower than 100 or not?

80, 64 or 50...Don't care which one.
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35.9 x 24.0mm

not full frame, I'll pass.

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02-12-2016, 09:38 AM   #38
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QuoteOriginally posted by LFLee Quote
35.9 x 24.0mm

not full frame, I'll pass.

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D810 is the same...

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In the film age prints were always cropped a little
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QuoteOriginally posted by LFLee Quote
35.9 x 24.0mm

not full frame, I'll pass.

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We'll have to shop for an additional 0.1 mm !!
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35.9 x 24....

QuoteOriginally posted by LFLee Quote
35.9 x 24.0mm

not full frame, I'll pass.

:P
PROOF that Pentax is doomed...DOOMED!!!

...along with Apple...

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36Mp means 15Mp in APS mode. That is OK.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
Because the very same AF module is the most advanced if put in a 645z, or the most basic if put in a K-3. The expectations for the two different markets differs quite a bit.
no, the reason why the 645z get the same AF module as the K-3 is because MF is not targeted at sport and wildlife applications, therefore even if the AF is grouped in the middle of the MF frame , it's not an issue.

However, FF is having higher iso perf and still very much used for sports, which is why it makes sense to upgrade the af module on the ff camera. If Pentax uses the K-3 AF module on the FF, it's going to be a big minus for the camera, but I think there is a very high chance that Ricoh redesigned the AF module for the FF , with potentially reusing this more advanced AF into a future APSC camera, like Canon and Nikon are doing: you just get a larger frame coverage on APSC.

I'm pretty sure that the ff camera will be good to cover most people actual needs (K-3 is already such as camera), but once again, people (and also Ricoh) focus more on camera only then on lenses. That's not how to evaluate the capabilities of a camera + lenses system. Right away, if it has a full frame sensor inside, you'll immediately get less noise and more overall resolution versus APSC (I remember the times of the so good DA limited primes APSC of Pentax... that are actually wiped out by any full frame system even with an average lens on it...).

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QuoteOriginally posted by Bophoto Quote
36Mp means 15Mp in APS mode. That is OK.
Isnt that calculation not the same as the crop factor?
So would APSC crop not be around 24 MPx? (24 x 1,5 = 36)
How did you calculate 15 Mpx in APS-c Mode?
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