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02-13-2016, 11:09 PM   #181
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
That would be your smartphone.
but my smartphone doesn't say PENTAX

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It it just me, or has the battery grip gained a couple of millimeters in height? This might point to a new battery.

Flagship Canon and Nikon cameras use an extra-large three-cell battery inserted into the integrated vertical grip; as an example, the Nikon EN-EL18a is rated at 10.8 V and 2500 mAh. While it's not entirely clear if such a battery can physically fit in the main handgrip, it has been enlarged relative to the K-3, so I'm wondering if Pentax is using the same type of battery with the K-1...

The existing Pentax D-LI90 is very similar in design to the Canon LP-E6N and Nikon EN-EL15, and they almost certainly use the same type of cell (two 18500 cells). The three-cell batteries use larger 18650 cells, the same kind found in many laptop batteries and commonly sold for use in flashlights and vaporizers.

Edit: On further examination, it's rather unlikely that the grip is large enough to accommodate a three-cell battery, nor is it tall enough to provide ~70mm of vertical space, the minimum needed for a battery that uses 18650s to fit.
No change in battery.
This is one of the few things i know for sure.
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QuoteOriginally posted by oldfashioned_aj Quote
but my smartphone doesn't say PENTAX
This is Pentax, not ACME - they aren't obliged to make everything for you.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
This is Pentax, not ACME - they aren't obliged to make everything for you.
One thing I reckon they could try to make is a high quality inkjet photo printer for black and white

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There's a quaint little custom in marriage where one party takes on the family name of the other.
In Germany you can have a double name, and many do.

As for detaching the screen... You would need batteries, processors etc. in the screen. It doesn't make sense. However if the camera has WiFi you could have the picture and controls transferred to the phone. I recently got to use a DJI Phantom, and despite it being quite far away the image was streamed to the phone. It worked really well.
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In Germany you can have a double name, and many do.
just the ultra-liberals do so in germany
02-14-2016, 02:05 AM   #187
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QuoteOriginally posted by OTH Quote
just the ultra-liberals do so in germany
I am confused now. When we call our camera provider Ricoh-Pentax does that mean it is ultra-liberal?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
This is Pentax, not ACME - they aren't obliged to make everything for you.
obviously i never asked pentax to make anything for me, so they should not be obliged to make it "for me"

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Obviously you were "complaining" that your smartphone doesn't bear the Pentax brand. Put in another way, that you need a 3rd-party product - which most likely you already own - to have that wireless control LCD.
The idea of making the back LCD a wireless device basically means 2 thing:
- duplicating an existing solution
- complicating the back LCD by making it a separate computer - with its own battery, processor, memory and wireless connection.
It would increase the size and the price of the camera while not offering any advantage.

The only advantage is a psychological one, having a "full Pentax" solution. But then, your tripod is not Pentax, your computer is not Pentax and so on.
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But there is something clever if you think vice versa. They could design a camera without back LCD and implementing a smartphone connection that use a smartphone as back LCD instead. That would have a lot of advantages:

a) the camera can be designed much more compact
b) the power consumption of the camera is reduced
c) no scratched back LCD, that usually happens after a couple of time in use !
d) the camera can be sold cheaper, because the costs of the back LCD don't exist
e) the smartphone can be placed free in any position, even far away of the positioned camera
f) they can implement the "touch-pad" function very easy, by using the touch of the smartphone. I'm really no friend of a touch-pad on a camera, because it's just a question of time that the touch gets scatches as an ordinary LCD too. But a scratch at a touch display means immediately that it is broken and must be replaced with a lot of costs even if you don't need it.

P.S.:

g) you could also use a tablet as display, that gives much better impression of the picture and would allow you to edit Raw-Pictures with software at site

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QuoteOriginally posted by OTH Quote
They could design a camera without back LCD
suits me, a basic manual type Dslr, no video,
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QuoteOriginally posted by OTH Quote
a) the camera can be designed much more compact
b) the power consumption of the camera is reduced
c) no scratched back LCD, that usually happens after a couple of time in use !
d) the camera can be sold cheaper, because the costs of the back LCD don't exist
e) the smartphone can be placed free in any position, even far away of the positioned camera
f) they can implement the "touch-pad" function very easy, by using the touch of the smartphone. I'm really no friend of a touch-pad on a camera, because it's just a question of time that the touch gets scatches as an ordinary LCD too. But a scratch at a touch display means immediately that it is broken and must be replaced with a lot of costs even if you don't need it.
Interesting idea - I can see a few possible downsides - I'm not sure there would be so much power saving - transmitting all that data must be quite power hungry - and things like the electronic spirit level would be very fiddly to implement - I'm sure there are others - just initial reaction
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No, this:
Another explanation proposed by sangha31 on Chassimages: these chips could be additional contacts for the new, fully-coupled Pentax 645 → K adapter.

Here below a picture showing the contacts of the Pentax 645 mount:

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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
Another explanation proposed by sangha31 on Chassimages: these chips could be additional contacts for the new, fully-coupled Pentax 645 → K adapter.

Here below a picture showing the contacts of the Pentax 645 mount:

Yes please!!!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
Another explanation proposed by sangha31 on Chassimages: these chips could be additional contacts for the new, fully-coupled Pentax 645 → K adapter.

Here below a picture showing the contacts of the Pentax 645 mount:
If i understood correctly..bear in mind that i wasn't drooling atm and didn't pay attention..That there will be 2 version of the FF. One with and one without the 645 connectivity. So take this with a pinch of salt since I'm not sure i heard or understood correctly
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