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02-17-2016, 12:44 PM   #331
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
They are forbidden to review it Let imaging resource do it.
I thought DPReview had gone completely mirrorless, something about being superstitious , the only reviews they seem to have any time for are for the Fuji and M3/4 crowd. Oh I forgot, they also have a lot of time of the cheaper Leica's and various lens adapters that crop up allowing this brand to be used by that brand etc, etc.

One of these days I must get banned from there.


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QuoteOriginally posted by robbiec Quote
I thought DPReview had gone completely mirrorless, something about being superstitious , the only reviews they seem to have any time for are for the Fuji and M3/4 crowd. Oh I forgot, they also have a lot of time of the cheaper Leica's and various lens adapters that crop up allowing this brand to be used by that brand etc, etc.

One of these days I must get banned from there.
The last Pentax complete review they did was the K-3. Not the K-s1 not the K-s2 not the K3 II (i've been banned twice now....)
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QuoteOriginally posted by robbiec Quote
One of these days I must get banned from there.
That sounds like a fun goal! I wonder how hard it would be to achieve?
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Their last screw up was to take the already ho-hum images from Pentax' teaser site, resize them in a way which obliterated every detail (making them look worse than a webcam), post them on their site and enjoy the fireworks.
After all finally quieted down and the article slipped from the front page, they quietly fixed that mistake.

So they'd better not review, preview or write anything about the K-1, the risk is too great they'll make mistakes again

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QuoteOriginally posted by Enrique S Toso Quote
Now the KS1 has sense!! they were playing with leds. Now something we all believe was stupid (and it was) became something very usefull (as any wedding photographer can tell).
oh wise man, you have learned the K-01 / MX-1 lesson.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
oh wise man, you have learned the K-01 / MX-1 lesson.

What were the experimental features of those cameras?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Zephos Quote
What were the experimental features of those cameras?
K-01 is the guts of a K-30 / K-50 (new SR smaller system and new manufacturing technique) w/o the mirror assembly. MX-1 was the articulated LCD screen. K-5lls was no anti-aliasing filter. Etc. Sometimes they 'test' something in a one-off run of 125,000 units that they know they can sell in Japan but it looks crazy to us in the west.

In reality, K-30 is a K-01 with a mirror and OVF.

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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
K-01 is the guts of A K-30 / K-50 (new SR smaller system and new manufacturing technique) w/o the mirror assembly. MX-1 was the articulated LCD screen. K-5lls was no anti-aliasing filter. Etc. Sometimes they 'test' something is a one-off run of 125,000 units that they know they can sell in Japan but it looks crazy to us in the west.

In reality, K-30 is a K-01 with a mirror and OVF.
Ah... makes sense. Thanks.

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QuoteOriginally posted by i83N Quote
No. I two worlds, tilting sensor doesn't change optical math
Are you sure?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheimpflug_principle


You can tilt either the lens or the sensor to play with the depth of field.

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QuoteOriginally posted by tryphon4 Quote
Are you sure?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheimpflug_principle


You can tilt either the lens or the sensor to play with the depth of field.
Yes you can but it not the same effect. Till lens compensates optical distortion. This is more lensbaby effects.
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Does it matter? The camera can't tilt the sensor that way even if it wanted to.
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QuoteOriginally posted by robbiec Quote
I thought DPReview had gone completely mirrorless, something about being superstitious , [...]
Nah. They're just vampires.
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@i83N @tryphon4 Fellows, I refer you to the article posted on the home page... way back in April and May of 2013.

How to Turn Any Lens into a Shift Lens - Tutorial Videos | PentaxForums.com


Sensor Shift In Action: Increasing Field of View - Tutorial Videos | PentaxForums.com


Sum it all up, the shift is not as significant as a PC lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mattt Quote
@i83N @tryphon4 Fellows, I refer you to the article posted on the home page... way back in April and May of 2013.

How to Turn Any Lens into a Shift Lens - Tutorial Videos | PentaxForums.com

https://youtu.be/RKbnO8rlg44

Sensor Shift In Action: Increasing Field of View - Tutorial Videos | PentaxForums.com

https://youtu.be/FUf3-oHX2g8

Sum it all up, the shift is not as significant as a PC lens.
PF member mikeSF posted a thread showing a *much* more dramatic effect of the sensor shift technique than demonstrated in the PF video. Definitely worthwhile reading.
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Tilt and shift are different things.
I own two tilt adaptors (a Zoerk MFS to use enlarging lenses, a "Pentacon6 to K" to use Pentacon 6 lenses).


I own neither shift adapters nor shift lenses.
A tilted lens allows to apply the Scheimpflug-Carpentier principle (modify the depth of field) while a shifted lens allows to correct verticals. It is completly different.

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