Picture of K-1

Mistral75 · 02-13-2016, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by jpzk

Has anyone thought of asking (Ricoh - Pentax) whether this camera will have a "de-crippled" mount ?
I thought this was a pretty hot debate in the past ... ?
Perhaps not a concern to anyone anymore ?

JP

It will not, see the front view: no coupling lever.

derekkite · 02-13-2016, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by ffking

OK, put the other way, what's the problem with using the rear screen?

Too bright and distracting when looking in the viewfinder. Top status screens are something best appreciated in use.

RonHendriks1966 · 02-13-2016, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by shakereduced

Going by features, the DSLRs closest to the K-1 would be the Canon 5d3 and Nikon D810. The K-1 is 136.5 x 110 x 85.5 mm and weighs 925 g. The 5d3 is 152 x 116.4 x 76.4 and weighs 950 g. The D810 is 146 x 123 x 81.5 and weighs 980 g. So the K-1 is smaller and lighter than those.

Compared to Nikon and Canon's smaller full frame cameras with lesser specs, it's closer in size but weighs more. (Canon 6d is 144.5 x 110.5 x 71.2 and weighs 770 g, and Nikon D750 is 140.5 x 113 x 78 and weighs 840 g).

Also, if Sony is keeping the A99 around, that measures in at 147 x 111.2 x 78.4 and weighs 812 g.

Not dslr, but still delivering images in the same league....

Sony A7 II dimensions: 126.9x95.7x59.7 mm (camera body only, excluding protrusion) - at 599 g.

**ffking** · 02-13-2016, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by derekkite

Too bright and distracting when looking in the viewfinder. Top status screens are something best appreciated in use.

Yuh - I do use the top lcd all the time myself, I'm just wondering if it's a deal-breaker or just an old habit?

---------- Post added 02-13-16 at 11:06 AM ----------

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Not dslr, but still delivering images in the same league....

Sony A7 II dimensions: 126.9x95.7x59.7 mm (camera body only, excluding protrusion) - at 599 g.

time to press the doomed button

BrianR · 02-13-2016, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by ffking

OK, put the other way, what's the problem with using the rear screen?

The green illumination of the top LCD is much easier on the eyes at night. The top panel is also easy to read on a sunny day when I can hardly make out the information inside the viewfinder. The back LCD is likewise a challenge in the sun.

BrianL · 02-13-2016, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by derekkite

Too bright and distracting when looking in the viewfinder. Top status screens are something best appreciated in use.

I use both at different times, for different reasons. But I can't use either when my eye is at the viewfinder! ��
Brian

mee · 02-13-2016, 11:41 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by jpzk

Has anyone thought of asking (Ricoh - Pentax) whether this camera will have a "de-crippled" mount ?
I thought this was a pretty hot debate in the past ... ?
Perhaps not a concern to anyone anymore ?

Only was to a loud minority on the forums here. I'd say the mount isn't crippled. It just moved on.

Kunzite · 02-13-2016, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by oldfashioned_aj

In my wildest imagination I want to see the rear lcd to detachable and wifi connected to camera

That would be your smartphone.

Original Bandicoot · 02-13-2016, 11:45 AM

One wish and one hope:

I wish the battery grip attached with a fast and rigid lever system like the one on the MZ-S rather than a slow and awkward screw.

And I hope that the positional relationship of the AF button to the shutter button on the grip and on the body are both the same. The fact that they differ from each other on the K-3 is one of the biggest ergonomic annoyances on an otherwise excellent camera. Really makes switching between landscape and portrait much less convenient than it should be.

**jpzk** · 02-13-2016, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

It will not, see the front view: no coupling lever.

Well, that settles it then.
Thanks !

rawr · 02-13-2016, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by Original Bandicoot

... I wish the battery grip attached with a fast and rigid lever system like the one on the MZ-S rather than a slow and awkward screw.

From the latest K-1 image with grip, the K-1 grip looks identical to its predecessor. So (probably) all the mechanical bits like the attachment method will be the same.

**jpzk** · 02-13-2016, 11:57 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mee

Only was to a loud minority on the forums here. I'd say the mount isn't crippled. It just moved on.

I was under the impression that this was something a LOT of people wanted but ... life goes on !

Zygonyx · 02-13-2016, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by rawr

From the latest K-1 image with grip, the K-1 grip looks identical to its predecessor. So (probably) all the mechanical bits like the attachment method will be the same.

Yeah, did anybody experience troubles with predecessing digital grips ?

mee · 02-13-2016, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by derekkite

Too bright and distracting when looking in the viewfinder. Top status screens are something best appreciated in use.

Exactly.. It is way too bright esp in low light scenes where it can alter your vision for a short time. Plus, as you mention, the benefits are more obvious in practice.. I keep the back LCD turned off and just use the top panel. I've found my shooting much quicker this way.

**monochrome** · 02-13-2016, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I think Ricoh were very much proud to own such a prestigious brand; OTOH we were asking them to be ashamed of that fact, "how dare they!". The entire issue is nonsense.

Ricoh is printed on all the boxes.

As i noticed when I un-boxed my K-3, "Huh. It's really small."

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02-13-2016, 10:47 AM	#151
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by jpzk Has anyone thought of asking (Ricoh - Pentax) whether this camera will have a "de-crippled" mount ? I thought this was a pretty hot debate in the past ... ? Perhaps not a concern to anyone anymore ? JP It will not, see the front view: no coupling lever.

02-13-2016, 10:49 AM	#152
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Originally posted by ffking OK, put the other way, what's the problem with using the rear screen? Too bright and distracting when looking in the viewfinder. Top status screens are something best appreciated in use.

02-13-2016, 11:02 AM	#153
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by shakereduced Going by features, the DSLRs closest to the K-1 would be the Canon 5d3 and Nikon D810. The K-1 is 136.5 x 110 x 85.5 mm and weighs 925 g. The 5d3 is 152 x 116.4 x 76.4 and weighs 950 g. The D810 is 146 x 123 x 81.5 and weighs 980 g. So the K-1 is smaller and lighter than those. Compared to Nikon and Canon's smaller full frame cameras with lesser specs, it's closer in size but weighs more. (Canon 6d is 144.5 x 110.5 x 71.2 and weighs 770 g, and Nikon D750 is 140.5 x 113 x 78 and weighs 840 g). Also, if Sony is keeping the A99 around, that measures in at 147 x 111.2 x 78.4 and weighs 812 g. Not dslr, but still delivering images in the same league.... Sony A7 II dimensions: 126.9x95.7x59.7 mm (camera body only, excluding protrusion) - at 599 g.

02-13-2016, 11:05 AM	#154
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by derekkite Too bright and distracting when looking in the viewfinder. Top status screens are something best appreciated in use. Yuh - I do use the top lcd all the time myself, I'm just wondering if it's a deal-breaker or just an old habit? ---------- Post added 02-13-16 at 11:06 AM ---------- Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Not dslr, but still delivering images in the same league.... Sony A7 II dimensions: 126.9x95.7x59.7 mm (camera body only, excluding protrusion) - at 599 g. time to press the doomed button

02-13-2016, 11:08 AM	#155
BrianR Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,332	Originally posted by ffking OK, put the other way, what's the problem with using the rear screen? The green illumination of the top LCD is much easier on the eyes at night. The top panel is also easy to read on a sunny day when I can hardly make out the information inside the viewfinder. The back LCD is likewise a challenge in the sun.

02-13-2016, 11:10 AM	#156
BrianL Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 38	Originally posted by derekkite Too bright and distracting when looking in the viewfinder. Top status screens are something best appreciated in use. I use both at different times, for different reasons. But I can't use either when my eye is at the viewfinder! �� Brian

02-13-2016, 11:41 AM - 2 Likes	#157
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by jpzk Has anyone thought of asking (Ricoh - Pentax) whether this camera will have a "de-crippled" mount ? I thought this was a pretty hot debate in the past ... ? Perhaps not a concern to anyone anymore ? Only was to a loud minority on the forums here. I'd say the mount isn't crippled. It just moved on.

02-13-2016, 11:42 AM	#158
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by oldfashioned_aj In my wildest imagination I want to see the rear lcd to detachable and wifi connected to camera That would be your smartphone.

02-13-2016, 11:45 AM	#159
Original Bandicoot Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 5	One wish and one hope: I wish the battery grip attached with a fast and rigid lever system like the one on the MZ-S rather than a slow and awkward screw. And I hope that the positional relationship of the AF button to the shutter button on the grip and on the body are both the same. The fact that they differ from each other on the K-3 is one of the biggest ergonomic annoyances on an otherwise excellent camera. Really makes switching between landscape and portrait much less convenient than it should be.

02-13-2016, 11:55 AM	#160
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by Mistral75 It will not, see the front view: no coupling lever. Well, that settles it then. Thanks !

02-13-2016, 11:56 AM	#161
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Original Bandicoot ... I wish the battery grip attached with a fast and rigid lever system like the one on the MZ-S rather than a slow and awkward screw. From the latest K-1 image with grip, the K-1 grip looks identical to its predecessor. So (probably) all the mechanical bits like the attachment method will be the same.

02-13-2016, 11:57 AM - 1 Like	#162
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by mee Only was to a loud minority on the forums here. I'd say the mount isn't crippled. It just moved on. I was under the impression that this was something a LOT of people wanted but ... life goes on !

02-13-2016, 12:14 PM	#163
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by rawr From the latest K-1 image with grip, the K-1 grip looks identical to its predecessor. So (probably) all the mechanical bits like the attachment method will be the same. Yeah, did anybody experience troubles with predecessing digital grips ?

02-13-2016, 12:24 PM	#164
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by derekkite Too bright and distracting when looking in the viewfinder. Top status screens are something best appreciated in use. Exactly.. It is way too bright esp in low light scenes where it can alter your vision for a short time. Plus, as you mention, the benefits are more obvious in practice.. I keep the back LCD turned off and just use the top panel. I've found my shooting much quicker this way.

02-13-2016, 12:49 PM	#165
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Kunzite I think Ricoh were very much proud to own such a prestigious brand; OTOH we were asking them to be ashamed of that fact, "how dare they!". The entire issue is nonsense. Ricoh is printed on all the boxes. As i noticed when I un-boxed my K-3, "Huh. It's really small."