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02-18-2016, 05:58 AM   #571
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QuoteOriginally posted by kh1234567890 Quote
Smallprint in the middle of page 4 - 'The focusing screen is fixed on the camera body, and is not interchangeable.'
Thank you!
That is indeed regrettable, i like my Ee-S very much, too.
Let's hope the standard screen provided by Pentax is top notch.

Edit: I'm just reading it is the same "Natural Bright Matte III" as in the K3. :-(

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QuoteOriginally posted by Edvinas Quote
I don't own D810. We (me and my wife) use D3s and D700. For a while I've used D600, but sold it (and got used D700) mainly because of it's high megapixel count and colours which my wife disliked a lot.

I have huge symphaty for Pentax and was planning to replace D700 as soon as Pentax FF comes out... However now I can see that K-1 is aimed primarily towards landscape and studio photographers, which aren't us.
Which is not YOU.

You are not US.
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Yikes! People really have to nip around the edges to find things to complain about.

Must be a great camera then.
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Well, seriously, speaking about K-1's autofocus performance NOW is just STUPID.
No production software.
No last/recent lenses on body.
ONLY prejudice positions.

02-18-2016, 06:15 AM   #575
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QuoteOriginally posted by kh1234567890 Quote
All the 'HUD' does is to show you a black rectangle and two level gauge bars which, knowing Pentax, won't be accurate anyhow. Pentax stock focus screens are traditionally useless with fast manual focus lenses.[COLOR="Silver"]
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Mmm seems you haven't read the spec before making your statements.!!

Viewfinder overlay:

1 AF Points,
2 Grid Display,
3 Electronic Level,
4 AF Frame,
5 Spot Metering

As to your bit of plastic off an old camera added to your K series , That is exactly what Ricoh wants to stop.
Unless you never use the camera auto exposure function your camera are now broken as they cannot provide accurate exposure data the sensors.
In addition unless you have proper calibration tool to shim the non standard Matte your MF will be less accurate than the default F2 Matte III
and for anyone adding a split prism matte AF will be all over the place due to the split prism.

good job all round eh

I wonder why Ricoh stopped this potentially lucrative accessory business ..... Oh Yeah support costs greater than potential income.!

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QuoteOriginally posted by bobmaxja Quote
Which is not YOU.

You are not US.
Unless you're his wife, you're out of subject and need to read carefully first then answer.

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QuoteOriginally posted by awaldram Quote
Mmm seems you haven't read the spec before making your statements.!!

Viewfinder overlay:

1 AF Points,
2 Grid Display,
3 Electronic Level,
4 AF Frame,
5 Spot Metering

As to your bit of plastic off an old camera added to your K series , That is exactly what Ricoh wants to stop.
Unless you never use the camera auto exposure function your camera are now broken as they cannot provide accurate exposure data the sensors.
In addition unless you have proper calibration tool to shim the non standard Matte your MF will be less accurate than the default F2 Matte III and AF will be all over the place due to the split prism.

good job all round eh
Why would Ricoh make people stop using their product the way they want ? Giving an interchangeable screen is a move from Pentax to allow this use and it's totally understandable to want it. The only reason it's not there in the K-1 is that another functionality was prioritized (Overlay required because of the crop mode).
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QuoteOriginally posted by kh1234567890 Quote
Smallprint in the middle of page 4 - 'The focusing screen is fixed on the camera body, and is not interchangeable.'
So no more dust behind the focus screen, but also no more shimming. It better be well calibrated for manual focus or it will go straight back to where it came from.
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QuoteOriginally posted by awaldram Quote
As to your bit of plastic off an old camera added to your K series , That is exactly what Ricoh wants to stop.
Unless you never use the camera auto exposure function your camera are now broken as they cannot provide accurate exposure data the sensors.
In addition unless you have proper calibration tool to shim the non standard Matte your MF will be less accurate than the default F2 Matte III and AF will be all over the place due to the split prism.
I beg to differ.

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Do we know what sensor's been used ? I ask in terms of thinking about the potential DR will be so a comparison might be possible using DXOmark's sensor measurements. Is it likely to now come close to the D810 ? I'm often finding I'm trying to squeeze out the last drop of DR on my K-3s at ISO 100 and a little more room, might be help a bit at times.

Personally I think Ricoh have pitched the K-1 just perfectly, as an affordable (for FF) FF version of the great (stills camera) K-3/k-3II. I've emailed them to say that earlier this morning Next a few tweaks of the lens line up and an upgrade path is available if required ...
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
So no more dust behind the focus screen, but also no more shimming. It better be well calibrated for manual focus or it will go straight back to where it came from.
Now that is a valid point ... No more user correction for Pentax errors

Hopefully as no play in mount this will become a non issue.

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QuoteOriginally posted by BarryE Quote
Do we know what sensor's been used ? I ask in terms of thinking about the potential DR will be so a comparison might be possible using DXOmark's sensor measurements. Is it likely to now come close to the D810 ? I'm often finding I'm trying to squeeze out the last drop of DR on my K-3s at ISO 100 and a little more room, might be help a bit at times.

Personally I think Ricoh have pitched the K-1 just perfectly, as an affordable (for FF) FF version of the great (stills camera) K-3/k-3II. I've emailed them to say that earlier this morning Next a few tweaks of the lens line up and an upgrade path is available if required ...
Given the ISO rating it should be the same or better than the D810 @ max DR

i.e the k1 should be => DR :iso100 than the d810 @ iso64
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Yippee! And oh yes: YIPPEE!! It's even reasonably priced, at the low end of virtually all speculation. YIPPEE!!YIPPEE!!YIPPEE!! Introduced before I got too old to use it. YIPPEE!!YIPPEE!!YIPPEE!!YIPPEE!!YIPPEE!!YIPPEE!!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bromberger Quote
Thank you!
That is indeed regrettable, i like my Ee-S very much, too.
Let's hope the standard screen provided by Pentax is top notch.

Edit: I'm just reading it is the same "Natural Bright Matte III" as in the K3. :-(
A disappointment to me as well. Although, we'd better wait and see rather than jumping to conclusions. I already have a KatzEye screen in my K100D, which according to Pentax was "not interchangeable".
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QuoteOriginally posted by WPRESTO Quote
at the low end of virtually all speculation.
Next to all the other specs, this is the best spec of all.

Reading the official website, you get the idea that this camera was designed and built by a bunch of true believers who wanted to give us what we wanted - the still picture-taking full-frame machine of our dreams - and stopped at nothing to make sure it wasn't FREAKING IMPOSSIBLY HUGE. Thank you to those engineers, who I now completely forgive for not decrippling the mount. I understand why they didn't. I still think they need to rectify that at some stage, but the K-1 is not the aperture coupling lever's "hill to die on".

They also put just enough in to make sure that it was competitive without being freaking impossibly EXPENSIVE, and they realised that THE BEST IS THE ENEMY OF GOOD ENOUGH.

There are already people on this website who have bluntly said, "At that price I am getting it now."

I think Ricoh have done the right thing for the right reasons and put out the camera that most of us want at a price that more of us can afford than was expected.
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QuoteOriginally posted by BarryE Quote
Do we know what sensor's been used ?
A newer, rebuilded and Pentax tweaked version of the same one as in D810
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
So no more dust behind the focus screen, but also no more shimming. It better be well calibrated for manual focus or it will go straight back to where it came from.
There are what appears could be electrical contacts in the mount near the focusing screen. It is rumored/speculated that these are contacts for a new 645 adapter to support some automation. If that's the case that could be part of the reason why the focus screen is "fixed".

It could also mean a un-crippled TC for K-mount lenses would be possible.
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