Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
02-21-2016, 12:52 AM   #676
Site Supporter
Zygonyx's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Ile de France
Posts: 2,952
QuoteOriginally posted by stillshot2 Quote
Can someone explain why there are so many complaints about the megapixel count? I do not understand why it is a problem at all since one can choose in the menus to shoot smaller size files if they desire. It is better to have the megapixels than to not have them, as some people crop heavily and/or print very large and truly need them.
Tank you for this commonsensefull opinion

---------- Post added 21-02-16 at 00:53 ----------

QuoteOriginally posted by Digitalis Quote
Really?
Good shot, please could you show us others like this ?

02-21-2016, 12:59 AM   #677
Loyal Site Supporter
clackers's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Melbourne
Photos: Albums
Posts: 7,737
QuoteOriginally posted by stillshot2 Quote
Can someone explain why there are so many complaints about the megapixel count? I do not understand why it is a problem at all since one can choose in the menus to shoot smaller size files if they desire.
Yes, if you're a JPEG shooter. ☺
02-21-2016, 01:01 AM   #678
Pentaxian
Digitalis's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Adelaide.
Posts: 8,538
QuoteOriginally posted by Zygonyx Quote
Good shot, please could you show us others like this ?
nothing special, It's just a K5IIs. I put the lighting together in less than a minute.
02-21-2016, 03:00 AM   #679
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tromsų, Norway
Photos: Albums
Posts: 922
QuoteOriginally posted by robbiec Quote
They are waiting for the DXOMark score using the standard range first , if it doesn't get into the top 3 then they'll enable 80, 50, 36, the latter 2 with pixelshift enabled by default
First off, DXO claim they never re-test cameras. Second, they won't let Pentax (or anybody else) compete on fair and even grounds with their own DXO One camera. DXO used to be objective before, but that is history.

02-21-2016, 03:06 AM   #680
Site Supporter
Zygonyx's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Ile de France
Posts: 2,952
Btw i cant see how they could sell sufficient numbers of Ones, my opinion is that they've put themselves in danger on both software and hardware markets.
02-21-2016, 03:18 AM   #681
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tromsų, Norway
Photos: Albums
Posts: 922
QuoteOriginally posted by stillshot2 Quote
Can someone explain why there are so many complaints about the megapixel count? I do not understand why it is a problem at all since one can choose in the menus to shoot smaller size files if they desire. It is better to have the megapixels than to not have them, as some people crop heavily and/or print very large and truly need them.
I hope we wont go deep into a megapixel discussion here, but if you haven't already heard the reasons for fewer megapixels on chip, here is a few:

- Better dynamic range (only relevant to raw photographers)
- Less storage space / more images per GB (only relevant to raw photographers, unless we get a pixel binned raw mode)
- Potentially faster burst shooting, more images in the buffer, fewer Mp to process means better battery capacity (# images) and faster post processing
- Less "need"/temptation for huge, heavy and expensive, super sharp lenses

Some of these points can be partially improved by using the APS-C raw mode, but then you might be better of with a APS-C camera from the start.
02-21-2016, 09:06 AM - 1 Like   #682
Forum Member




Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 71
QuoteOriginally posted by Simen1 Quote
I hope we wont go deep into a megapixel discussion here, but if you haven't already heard the reasons for fewer megapixels on chip, here is a few:

- Better dynamic range (only relevant to raw photographers)
- Less storage space / more images per GB (only relevant to raw photographers, unless we get a pixel binned raw mode)
- Potentially faster burst shooting, more images in the buffer, fewer Mp to process means better battery capacity (# images) and faster post processing
- Less "need"/temptation for huge, heavy and expensive, super sharp lenses

Some of these points can be partially improved by using the APS-C raw mode, but then you might be better of with a APS-C camera from the start.
Actually, the champion of the 'fewer pixels' school, the A7s, has less dynamic range at base ISO than the D800. It improves after ISO 1600, where it seems to have some analog gain trick built-in. I agree with the other three points, but honestly, the fact that you get a D800 plus a K-5IIs rolled up into one Pentax body is amazing, and probably a much better choice for the current user base. Also, the temptation with high-end lenses always remains, if not because of resolution, then because of color or rendering.
02-21-2016, 10:23 AM   #683
Loyal Site Supporter
WPRESTO's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Massachusetts
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 23,618
QuoteOriginally posted by Simen1 Quote
I hope we wont go deep into a megapixel discussion here, but if you haven't already heard the reasons for fewer megapixels on chip, here is a few:

- Better dynamic range (only relevant to raw photographers)
- Less storage space / more images per GB (only relevant to raw photographers, unless we get a pixel binned raw mode)
- Potentially faster burst shooting, more images in the buffer, fewer Mp to process means better battery capacity (# images) and faster post processing
- Less "need"/temptation for huge, heavy and expensive, super sharp lenses

Some of these points can be partially improved by using the APS-C raw mode, but then you might be better of with a APS-C camera from the start.

Also: It seems generally agreed that fewer larger pixels have less noise at high ISO and in low light conditions. If such this is true, then fewer larger pixels would improve IQ for many photographers in a wide range of situations.

02-21-2016, 11:40 AM   #684
Site Supporter




Join Date: Oct 2009
Photos: Albums
Posts: 387
QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote
Yes, if you're a JPEG shooter. ☺
I believe that there is an option for a 15MP raw file in crop mode as well. That will make a smaller filesize than the 36MP raw file, but still a decent 4800x3200 pixels with the advantages of raw processing.
02-21-2016, 11:44 AM   #685
Pentaxian




Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Romania
Posts: 8,428
How about the wider range of situations, when one would shoot at low or moderate ISO?
02-21-2016, 12:13 PM   #686
Pentaxian




Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Photos: Albums
Posts: 616
QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote
Yes, if you're a JPEG shooter. ☺
So you cannot takes photos in RAW using the entire sensor at the smaller 15mp size?
02-21-2016, 12:24 PM   #687
Site Supporter
acoufap's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Munich, Germany
Photos: Albums
Posts: 702
QuoteOriginally posted by stillshot2 Quote
So you cannot takes photos in RAW using the entire sensor at the smaller 15mp size?
From rgknief60's specification link ... RAW: (15M:4800x3200) - so smaller raw files size for the dedicated APSC crop file.
02-21-2016, 12:30 PM   #688
Veteran Member




Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: italy
Posts: 411
can somebody confirm no mechanical sr in video? for me it's a real bummer...i didn't expect the best video feature, the 4k, the xxx fps...but come on pentax!!! sometimes pentad makes me crazy,shooting in his foot for something the k7 could do...5 axes for video makes a big difference, see some olympus samples...why not allow ? i imagine has something to do with warming sensor or i don't know other serious problem. i really expected this feature.
02-21-2016, 12:33 PM   #689
Pentaxian
RonHendriks1966's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2009
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 8,557
QuoteOriginally posted by jonny1986 Quote
can somebody confirm no mechanical sr in video? for me it's a real bummer...i didn't expect the best video feature, the 4k, the xxx fps...but come on pentax!!! sometimes pentad makes me crazy,shooting in his foot for something the k7 could do...5 axes for video makes a big difference, see some olympus samples...why not allow ? i imagine has something to do with warming sensor or i don't know other serious problem. i really expected this feature.
Well only from things I read. No mechanical SR for video. Not since K-5 series anymore. So probably also not using the full with of the sensor in video, but we will see when someone pays attention to these details.
02-21-2016, 03:24 PM   #690
Senior Member
screwdriver222's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Plymouth
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 127
QuoteOriginally posted by jonny1986 Quote
can somebody confirm no mechanical sr in video? for me it's a real bummer...i didn't expect the best video feature, the 4k, the xxx fps...but come on pentax!!! sometimes pentad makes me crazy,shooting in his foot for something the k7 could do...5 axes for video makes a big difference, see some olympus samples...why not allow ? i imagine has something to do with warming sensor or i don't know other serious problem. i really expected this feature.
From the specs on the Pentax website "During Live View shooting, this mechanism does not compensate for camera shake caused by horizontally and vertical shift"
So in Live View its only partial SR
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
af, anyway, battery, battery life, buffer, built-in, camera, estimate, exposure, frames, gr, jpeg, k-1, length, menu, mode, pentax news, pentax rumors, phone, price, sec, sensor, sheets, shots, shutter, size, specs, speeds
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
K-1 likely in full production run now... Fenwoodian Pentax Full Frame 24 12-11-2015 11:20 AM
Pentax Full-Frame to be Named K-1 PF Staff Homepage & Official Pentax News 16 11-17-2015 10:13 PM
Adorama Pentax Lens Deals - Full List 12/1 Adam Pentax Price Watch 3 12-03-2012 12:49 PM
News Full List of Forum Features Adam Site Suggestions and Help 6 08-09-2009 10:25 PM
is there a full DA list?? FA out of production? Albert Siegel Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 4 01-26-2008 04:10 PM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:33 PM. | See also: NikonForums.com, part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top