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03-01-2016, 09:19 AM   #736
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Take a look at Albert Siegel's hands-on video of a pre-production K-1. He shows the crop mode through the finder as well as live view with APS-C lenses.

Go to about 2'15"
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Viewfinder - black crop outline frame. Liveview black or white crop marks - different styles available (not shown but from features listing on website).


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03-01-2016, 09:25 AM   #737
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QuoteOriginally posted by WPRESTO Quote
When mounting an APS-C only lens and using crop mode, what do you see through the viewfinder? Are there permanently etched lines for framing, or bright, projected frame lines that only appear in crop mode, or is the ground glass partially blocked by shields as during the silly panoramic mode fad?
There's a thick(ish) dark gray rectangle that appears only when in crop mode. Image here. No tunnel vision!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Not a Number Quote
Take a look at Albert Siegel's hands-on video of a pre-production K-1. He shows the crop mode through the finder as well as live view with APS-C lenses.

Go to about 2'30"
Hands-On with the Pentax K-1 - Hands-on Reviews | PentaxForums.com

Viewfinder - black crop outline frame. Liveview black or white crop marks - different styles available (not shown but from features listing on website).
Thank you. Being able to see "extra" outside the APS-C picture area is potentially useful. I prefer the projected frame to blacking out the surround. It's almost like using a rangefinder 35!
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Really bummed about the video. Even t3i's have 60p.

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Real cine buffs say you only need 24p for video...anything over that is just marketing fluff.
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Real cine buffs say you only need 24p for video...anything over that is just marketing fluff.
Which is why people complain
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I really want 60p as an absolute minimum on the recording side. Downsampling of the framerate can be done at the viewer side much easier and better then upsampling. Call it the slide show cinema geek mode or Charlie Chaplin mode. Just like more realistic resolutions I also want more realistic panning and movements. Video is a nice add on feature even If stills are first priority.
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More importantly the video chip needs to be able to handle the frame rate right by a wide margin, otherwise panning shots will be choppy as hell.

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Frame rates are one thing, actual quality of the video is another. Good compression, high bitrates, most importantly good ISO performance and dynamic range. Frame rates should follow all of that, image quality is paramount. IMO
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I wonder if people who buy actual video cameras complain that the stills they get from them aren't as good as they would like.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
I wonder if people who buy actual video cameras complain that the stills they get from them aren't as good as they would like.
hey, now you're teasing us
I think the problem is that the video feature can be better but pentax just doesn't... I'm not asking Lumix level good!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
I wonder if people who buy actual video cameras complain that the stills they get from them aren't as good as they would like.
Probably!

I'm still disappointed with my K-5 II. It doesn't have an on-board phone, so I need to carry a separate device.
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QuoteOriginally posted by c.a.m Quote
Probably!

I'm still disappointed with my K-5 II. It doesn't have an on-board phone, so I need to carry a separate device.
Not only that, it doesn't dispense coffee or make julienne fries!! And you cannot drive nails with it, even if the AF misses the shot of a lifetime.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Imp Quote
hey, now you're teasing us
I think the problem is that the video feature can be better but pentax just doesn't... I'm not asking Lumix level good!
Oh but I'am sure some video camera have worse still than they could have too... This is so subjective in the end... Pentax could do 8K, full read and one could still complain SR is disabled... No reason to expect some video camera owner don't ask the same kind of thing for their still.
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QuoteOriginally posted by WPRESTO Quote
And you cannot drive nails with it,
Actually, you probably could use a K-1 to do this.

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