Full K-1 Spec list

**Digitalis** · 02-16-2016, 04:10 AM

Originally posted by jaad75

That's just not true. ISO80 was a true base ISO for the IMX071.

I just went through the tech publications - you're right. Though there are other cameras I work with that pull ISO values ( Leica S2 for instance) that I thought the odd ISO 80 was software pulled.

Originally posted by jaad75

T.1 for most cheap, regular, voltage controlled strobes at lower settings are longer than 1/200s.

The cheap ones like the Elinchrom D lite yes, but faster units like the BRX and Style RX can be fast, very fast at 1:1

Simen1 · 02-16-2016, 04:21 AM

Originally posted by jaad75

That's just not true. ISO80 was a true base ISO for the IMX071. No pull down at all. The highest analog gain for that sensor was about ISO1000, so everything up was just a digital "push".

If I have understood this correct The K-5 series have native ISO 80, but its uncalibrated colours. Meaning you risc blowing out one colour channel while the other two are not. In other words less room for white balance adjustments without loosing details in highlights. I don't know how the analogue gain and digital gain contributes, but it seems very linear and seamless up to ISO 1600. From ISO 3200 there is some noise reduction added to the raw files.

Here compared to Nikon D810 (that many assume will perform more or less like the K-1). Note that DXO didn't test the pulled ISO 32.

LoneWolf · 02-16-2016, 05:36 AM

I wonder if it comes with Manual in the Box as per the K3

jaad75 · 02-16-2016, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Which tests?

Test Pentax K-3 - U
Test Pentax K-3 II - U
In Polish. Google translate should be good enough. Optyczne.pl = LensTip.

Originally posted by Kunzite

And the 3.5 stops for the K-3 are also measured using the CIPA standard.

I thought so too, but I double-checked it and there was no claim about the CIPA standards before.

CarlosK3 · 02-16-2016, 05:53 AM

Are this specs official/confirmed? If so, I can now finally sell my Pentax Gear and jump the ship to Sony with no regrets

---------- Post added 02-16-16 at 01:54 PM ----------

Asahiflex · 02-16-2016, 05:56 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by CarlosK3

Are this specs official/confirmed? If so, I can now finally sell my Pentax Gear and jump the ship to Sony with no regrets

---------- Post added 02-16-16 at 01:54 PM ----------

The specs tell nothing about the real performance of the camera, but please jump ship if you really want to.

BrianL · 02-16-2016, 06:07 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by CarlosK3

Are this specs official/confirmed? If so, I can now finally sell my Pentax Gear and jump the ship to Sony with no regrets

---------- Post added 02-16-16 at 01:54 PM ----------

Of course, bye!
Brian

Last edited by Tom S.; 02-16-2016 at 10:47 AM. Reason: Quote edited

pathdoc · 02-16-2016, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by CarlosK3

If so, I can now finally sell my Pentax Gear and jump the ship to Sony with no regrets

What's the matter? Not enough megapixels for you?

I echo what Asahiflex has said - there's more to a camera than just the raw numbers. Good luck in Sony land.

**Digitalis** · 02-16-2016, 06:12 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Asahiflex

please jump ship if you really want to.

Preferably into shallow water.

Asahiflex · 02-16-2016, 06:15 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Digitalis

Preferably into shallow water.

Head first.

Clavius · 02-16-2016, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by CarlosK3

Are this specs official/confirmed? If so, I can now finally sell my Pentax Gear and jump the ship to Sony with no regrets

The grass is greener at Sony in some places. But as soon as you step on the grass you might notice some brown patches in other areas.

Mistral75 · 02-16-2016, 06:18 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Asahiflex

The specs tell nothing about the real performance of the camera, but please jump ship if you really want to.

...and don't forget to leave your FA 31mm Limited behind you

.

totsmuyco · 02-16-2016, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by CarlosK3

Are this specs official/confirmed? If so, I can now finally sell my Pentax Gear and jump the ship to Sony with no regrets

[COLOR="Silver"]

---------- Post added 02-16-16 at 01:54 PM ----------

Please do go. Enjoy your Sony and never come back. Nobody will miss you.

CarlosK3 · 02-16-2016, 06:29 AM - **1 Like**

Haha, reading all the comments I might change my mind about the regret part, you're so adorable guys

No, to be honest Im sure the camera will be great. And I still love my old K-5's look for photography and the raw is awesome. Couldn't push it nearly as hard on the Sonys Ive used. Just edited an old picture in Photoshop and being able to push 3,5 stops without a problem is incredible! And the noise of the k5 looks way more organic than on the Sonys.
But I make a living of filmmaking and need to have an versatile camera that shoots decent video. Of course, 4k might not yet be the most important thing and the IQ comes first, but the fact that it does not have 4k is a sign for me. I don't think Pentax might have learned how to implement decent video or maybe they don't care and that is okay but sad. The k-5 was a monster back when it was released, even concerning the video. It had MJPG, Mic-In, the best SR on the market (and I would even say it is still the best SR) and the image was pretty good even though it had no full manual control. I don't really get how they once threw so many video features that back then were ahead of their time (especially in the k-7) and now are kind of lacking interest in pushing the video limits in their cameras. I mean, other than Canon or Sony or Panasonic that all have to see how to implement good video without cannibalizing there higher-end more expensive dedicated video cameras Pentax could without any downsides implement beasty video and everyone would profit or at least have no disadvantage. I hope you get my point? They had a ton of time, the video market is big nowadays with everyone owning a stills camera being a filmmaker too and they could easily bring a game changer to the market but they don't. I bet there are many talented people at Pentax/Ricoh but this still does not seem like a good economical choice at all.

D1N0 · 02-16-2016, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by CarlosK3

Haha, reading all the comments I might change my mind about the regret part, you're so adorable guys

No, to be honest Im sure the camera will be great. And I still love my old K-5's look for photography and the raw is awesome. Couldn't push it nearly as hard on the Sonys Ive used. Just edited an old picture in Photoshop and being able to push 3,5 stops without a problem is incredible! And the noise of the k5 looks way more organic than on the Sonys.
But I make a living of filmmaking and need to have an versatile camera that shoots decent video. Of course, 4k might not yet be the most important thing and the IQ comes first, but the fact that it does not have 4k is a sign for me. I don't think Pentax might have learned how to implement decent video or maybe they don't care and that is okay but sad. The k-5 was a monster back when it was released, even concerning the video. It had MJPG, Mic-In, the best SR on the market (and I would even say it is still the best SR) and the image was pretty good even though it had no full manual control. I don't really get how they once threw so many video features that back then were ahead of their time (especially in the k-7) and now are kind of lacking interest in pushing the video limits in their cameras. I mean, other than Canon or Sony or Panasonic that all have to see how to implement good video without cannibalizing there higher-end more expensive dedicated video cameras Pentax could without any downsides implement beasty video and everyone would profit or at least have no disadvantage.

Pentax could do that and Charge $3000 but they decided against it. Mirrorless is better for video anyway. It is after all mainly a photographers camera. Next one will get 4k for sure because it will be main stream by then.

02-16-2016, 05:53 AM	#215
CarlosK3 New Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 22	For real? Are this specs official/confirmed? If so, I can now finally sell my Pentax Gear and jump the ship to Sony with no regrets ---------- Post added 02-16-16 at 01:54 PM ---------- Last edited by Tom S.; 02-16-2016 at 10:47 AM. Reason: Selling outside the Marketplace

02-16-2016, 05:56 AM - 1 Like	#216
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by CarlosK3 Are this specs official/confirmed? If so, I can now finally sell my Pentax Gear and jump the ship to Sony with no regrets ---------- Post added 02-16-16 at 01:54 PM ---------- The specs tell nothing about the real performance of the camera, but please jump ship if you really want to. Last edited by Tom S.; 02-16-2016 at 10:47 AM. Reason: Quote edited

02-16-2016, 06:18 AM	#221
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by CarlosK3 Are this specs official/confirmed? If so, I can now finally sell my Pentax Gear and jump the ship to Sony with no regrets The grass is greener at Sony in some places. But as soon as you step on the grass you might notice some brown patches in other areas. Last edited by Tom S.; 02-16-2016 at 10:49 AM. Reason: Selling quote removed.

02-16-2016, 06:20 AM	#223
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by CarlosK3 Are this specs official/confirmed? If so, I can now finally sell my Pentax Gear and jump the ship to Sony with no regrets [COLOR="Silver"] ---------- Post added 02-16-16 at 01:54 PM ---------- Please do go. Enjoy your Sony and never come back. Nobody will miss you. Last edited by Tom S.; 02-16-2016 at 10:49 AM. Reason: Spelling Quote edited

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02-16-2016, 04:10 AM	#211
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by jaad75 That's just not true. ISO80 was a true base ISO for the IMX071. I just went through the tech publications - you're right. Though there are other cameras I work with that pull ISO values ( Leica S2 for instance) that I thought the odd ISO 80 was software pulled. Originally posted by jaad75 T.1 for most cheap, regular, voltage controlled strobes at lower settings are longer than 1/200s. The cheap ones like the Elinchrom D lite yes, but faster units like the BRX and Style RX can be fast, very fast at 1:1

02-16-2016, 04:21 AM	#212
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	Originally posted by jaad75 That's just not true. ISO80 was a true base ISO for the IMX071. No pull down at all. The highest analog gain for that sensor was about ISO1000, so everything up was just a digital "push". If I have understood this correct The K-5 series have native ISO 80, but its uncalibrated colours. Meaning you risc blowing out one colour channel while the other two are not. In other words less room for white balance adjustments without loosing details in highlights. I don't know how the analogue gain and digital gain contributes, but it seems very linear and seamless up to ISO 1600. From ISO 3200 there is some noise reduction added to the raw files. Here compared to Nikon D810 (that many assume will perform more or less like the K-1). Note that DXO didn't test the pulled ISO 32.

02-16-2016, 05:36 AM	#213
LoneWolf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 141	I wonder if it comes with Manual in the Box as per the K3

02-16-2016, 05:50 AM	#214
jaad75 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cracow Posts: 457	Originally posted by Kunzite Which tests? Test Pentax K-3 - U Test Pentax K-3 II - U In Polish. Google translate should be good enough. Optyczne.pl = LensTip. Originally posted by Kunzite And the 3.5 stops for the K-3 are also measured using the CIPA standard. I thought so too, but I double-checked it and there was no claim about the CIPA standards before.

02-16-2016, 06:07 AM - 1 Like	#217
BrianL Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 38	Originally posted by CarlosK3 Are this specs official/confirmed? If so, I can now finally sell my Pentax Gear and jump the ship to Sony with no regrets ---------- Post added 02-16-16 at 01:54 PM ---------- Of course, bye! Brian Last edited by Tom S.; 02-16-2016 at 10:47 AM. Reason: Quote edited

02-16-2016, 06:12 AM	#218
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	Originally posted by CarlosK3 If so, I can now finally sell my Pentax Gear and jump the ship to Sony with no regrets What's the matter? Not enough megapixels for you? I echo what Asahiflex has said - there's more to a camera than just the raw numbers. Good luck in Sony land.

02-16-2016, 06:12 AM - 1 Like	#219
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by Asahiflex please jump ship if you really want to. Preferably into shallow water.

02-16-2016, 06:15 AM - 1 Like	#220
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by Digitalis Preferably into shallow water. Head first.

02-16-2016, 06:18 AM - 1 Like	#222
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Asahiflex The specs tell nothing about the real performance of the camera, but please jump ship if you really want to. ...and don't forget to leave your FA 31mm Limited behind you .

02-16-2016, 06:29 AM - 1 Like	#224
CarlosK3 New Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 22	Haha, reading all the comments I might change my mind about the regret part, you're so adorable guys No, to be honest Im sure the camera will be great. And I still love my old K-5's look for photography and the raw is awesome. Couldn't push it nearly as hard on the Sonys Ive used. Just edited an old picture in Photoshop and being able to push 3,5 stops without a problem is incredible! And the noise of the k5 looks way more organic than on the Sonys. But I make a living of filmmaking and need to have an versatile camera that shoots decent video. Of course, 4k might not yet be the most important thing and the IQ comes first, but the fact that it does not have 4k is a sign for me. I don't think Pentax might have learned how to implement decent video or maybe they don't care and that is okay but sad. The k-5 was a monster back when it was released, even concerning the video. It had MJPG, Mic-In, the best SR on the market (and I would even say it is still the best SR) and the image was pretty good even though it had no full manual control. I don't really get how they once threw so many video features that back then were ahead of their time (especially in the k-7) and now are kind of lacking interest in pushing the video limits in their cameras. I mean, other than Canon or Sony or Panasonic that all have to see how to implement good video without cannibalizing there higher-end more expensive dedicated video cameras Pentax could without any downsides implement beasty video and everyone would profit or at least have no disadvantage. I hope you get my point? They had a ton of time, the video market is big nowadays with everyone owning a stills camera being a filmmaker too and they could easily bring a game changer to the market but they don't. I bet there are many talented people at Pentax/Ricoh but this still does not seem like a good economical choice at all.

02-16-2016, 06:35 AM	#225
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by CarlosK3 Haha, reading all the comments I might change my mind about the regret part, you're so adorable guys No, to be honest Im sure the camera will be great. And I still love my old K-5's look for photography and the raw is awesome. Couldn't push it nearly as hard on the Sonys Ive used. Just edited an old picture in Photoshop and being able to push 3,5 stops without a problem is incredible! And the noise of the k5 looks way more organic than on the Sonys. But I make a living of filmmaking and need to have an versatile camera that shoots decent video. Of course, 4k might not yet be the most important thing and the IQ comes first, but the fact that it does not have 4k is a sign for me. I don't think Pentax might have learned how to implement decent video or maybe they don't care and that is okay but sad. The k-5 was a monster back when it was released, even concerning the video. It had MJPG, Mic-In, the best SR on the market (and I would even say it is still the best SR) and the image was pretty good even though it had no full manual control. I don't really get how they once threw so many video features that back then were ahead of their time (especially in the k-7) and now are kind of lacking interest in pushing the video limits in their cameras. I mean, other than Canon or Sony or Panasonic that all have to see how to implement good video without cannibalizing there higher-end more expensive dedicated video cameras Pentax could without any downsides implement beasty video and everyone would profit or at least have no disadvantage. Pentax could do that and Charge $3000 but they decided against it. Mirrorless is better for video anyway. It is after all mainly a photographers camera. Next one will get 4k for sure because it will be main stream by then.