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02-16-2016, 02:58 PM   #16
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$2000 for a more or less re-badged Tamron lens and with some of the expensive stabilizing guts removed is just ridiculous. It's double the price of the Tamron just because of a Pentax logo and some "HD coating"???

02-16-2016, 03:20 PM   #17
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Design-wise, I'd say start with shifting the green ring further down the barrel, somewhere in the middle or near the mount. That would break the monotony. And make it a bit more exciting, i.e. DA* lenses. Those are beautiful.
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QuoteOriginally posted by joergens.mi Quote
Paul the Sunman I think,
your 12-28 will be the 15-30.

I've been hoping for the 12-28 as an replacement for the apsc-only 8-16 from Sigma
No. The roadmap shows separate DFA 15-30 (FF) and DA 12-28 (APS-C) lenses.
02-16-2016, 05:05 PM   #19
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I can't wait to see how my Sigma 12-24 (which was bought with FF in mind) does on the new FF.

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QuoteOriginally posted by McKajVah Quote
$2000 for a more or less re-badged Tamron lens and with some of the expensive stabilizing guts removed is just ridiculous. It's double the price of the Tamron just because of a Pentax logo and some "HD coating"???
Sheesh, wait 22 hours till the official announcement and (presumably) pricing from your regional distributor. Or did you think you were posting on DPR right now?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ron_Man Quote
I too do not like any of the new lens designs they are pushing out lately...

I for one love the DA* design for the classy look. For new modern lenses I would prefer the design of the 18-135mm WR. Before you say they look like it, no. I don't like the zoom range / aperture range. I prefer to see PENTAX | focal range.

At least I do not see the ugly red rings on these. Only positive I can take from any of this.

Just preference but now is the time for me more than ever to grab the original SMC DA limiteds. Those have the Pentax personality that made them unique. Not this new stuff..

Ricoh please see this thread because I'm not the only one that has complained about this.

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Well...I actually agree on some points. Plus one to green rings. I don't care about the random Canon DO line, green accent means Pentax and it has since at least the 1980s with the star lenses. It does also bother me aesthetically speaking when they put the aperture first, a la Zeiss, followed by a slash. I know the slash is meant as a separator and not a "divided by" sign, but it would make so much more sense to have the focal length followed by the focal ratio (i.e., "aperture" in photography terms)! I mean, the term "aperture" refers to the "clear aperture" of the lens, not the focal ratio per se. So 50/2 (i.e. 50mm divided by a focal ratio of 2, giving a clear aperture of 25mm) makes so much more sense!

Rant over, minor complaint, I'm not a troll...it just offends my sense of propriety.

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Prices seem way off, but the official Japanese prices tend to be that way if I've understood it correctly. I'f I would venture a guess it would be that ~$1500 US could be a fair pre order price. and probably settling down to ~$1300 or so within a month of release
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How much was the Tamron when it was released?
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I won't lie, that ultrawide is an interesting zoom, insofar as zooms go, but that 28-105 excites me about as much as the idea of a truck running over my foot. I'll be interested to see some good samples from each as well the PF review.

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I won't lie, that ultrawide is an interesting zoom, insofar as zooms go, but that 28-105 excites me about as much as the idea of a truck running over my foot. I'll be interested to see some good samples from each as well the PF review.
So just how exciting is a truck running over your foot?

Stimulating? Exciting? it could be either. It could excite your nervous system in a big way.
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With my own experience working with the Sigma 15-30mm f/3.5-4.5 the focal length range of 15-30mm(22.5~45mm) is a remarkably useful range for both APS-C and FX formats.

QuoteOriginally posted by VoiceOfReason Quote
I can't wait to see how my Sigma 12-24 (which was bought with FF in mind) does on the new FF.
I have tested several copies of the old and new version of that lens on my optics bench - you need to stop that lens down to quite a bit* to clear up the corners. I prefer the IQ older version: Even though it has more distortion than the new version, the distortion helps counter the inherent astigmatism with such wide lenses.

* performance was consistent across the frame at f/11 throughout the zoom range.
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The $1500+ D FA 15-30 f2.8 will have to perform substantially better than my $99 Pentax 18-35mm f/4-5.6 AL SMC P-FA J before I upgrade.

Comparison tests are interesting:
Tamron 15-30mm f/2.8 Di VC USD SP (Model A012) Review

Pentax 18-35mm f/4-5.6 AL SMC P-FA J Review
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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
How much was the Tamron when it was released?
Answered my own question: "You can order your copy of the Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 lens for $1,299 (as of 09/01/2012) at B&H."

https://photographylife.com/reviews/tamron-24-70mm-f2-8/6


So it was the same price as the Pentax variant at release.. prices will go down. People need to relax.
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$2000 for that ultra-wide would be a bit scary given the Tamron's $1199 price tag. That's even more than the Nikon 14-24mm!
Agree. It does not accept thread filters... Moreover comparing to Tamron version, VR is removed, which is believed to be one big selling point which should have added to $1199 price. So pentax version should be around $1199 - $1399. If it is priced too high (eg $2000) at beginning, just means that it will have 40% discount soon..
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QuoteOriginally posted by starjedi Quote
Agree. It does not accept thread filters... Moreover comparing to Tamron version, VR is removed, which is believed to be one big selling point which should have added to $1199 price. So pentax version should be around $1199 - $1399. If it is priced too high (eg $2000) at beginning, just means that it will have 40% discount soon..
You are correct. Mispricing--assuming there is mispricing--is usually corrected in the following quarter through rebates and/or discounts. The rebates are more helpful to the retailers stuck with inventory, getting them cash from turning over the goods so they can order more.
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Key questions is: Did Pentax already present all lenses they want to introduce with the K1... no 70-200, no primes... let's hope for a full roadmap.
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