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02-22-2016, 07:59 AM   #136
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Pentax will do a production run of the limiteds again. Really all we need.

02-22-2016, 09:20 AM   #137
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QuoteOriginally posted by starbase218 Quote
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Hopefully, with the full frame camera out, we will see more interest from both Sigma and Tamron to start producing K-mount lenses again. But we're not there yet.
I can understand DFA85/1.8 only with price USD500. 250 USD lower than FA77.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
I think DFA85/1.4 will be made for Pentax. 85/1.8 - I doubt. We have FA77/1.8.

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Japanese price of Tamron 85/1.8 is 1000 USD
No, it will be around 750$.
With that initial release price I am expecting sales price around 550$ during next christmas.
02-22-2016, 11:24 AM   #139
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Canon fans say that new Tamron is redesigned Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 (which developed by Tamron for Zeiss) for another flange focal distance and the price will be 1000-1100 USD. It's 100% version of Batis.

Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 Lens for Sony E Mount 2103-751 B&H Photo

and one more proof
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/now-we-can-be-almost-sure-of-it-the-batis-85m...ned-by-tamron/


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02-22-2016, 11:27 AM   #140
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Tamron SP 90mm f/2.8 Di Macro 1:1 VC USD (Model F017) is „90,000 and $649.

Tamron SP 85mm f/1.8 Di VC USD is „110,000 and should therefore be around $799.

Optical formula:

- Tamron SP: 13 elements in 9 groups
- Zeiss Batis: 11 elements in 8 groups.

It's definitely not the same lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
Canon fans say that new Tamron is redesigned Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 (which developed by Tamron for Zeiss) for another flange focal distance and the price will be 1000-1100 USD
I think now we will see the power of the name. "Tamron 85mm f1.8? Eh maybe if it costs under $400.. Zeiss 85mm f1.8? OMG $1200 is such a good deal!!"
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
Tamron SP 90mm f/2.8 Di Macro 1:1 VC USD (Model F017) is „90,000 and $649.

Tamron SP 85mm f/1.8 Di VC USD is „110,000 and should therefore be around $799.

Optical formula:

- Tamron SP: 13 elements in 9 groups
- Zeiss Batis: 11 elements in 8 groups.

It's definitely not the same lens.
Compare optical scheme




it's marketing trick - to write different quantity of elements in specs. I'm sure. No any difference in optical design at all.

there are many rumors at different sites that it's the same lens

„110 000 = 976 USD. Do you need right currency converter?
But I found Manufacturer’s suggested retail price 118,800 yen which is around $1050.

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Zeiss Batis 25mm f/2.0 is Tamron 24/2 lens. By the way.

85/1.4 and 24/2 patents are appeared when Jun Hirakawa joined Tamron.


As for Sony, new Tamron 85/1.8 is made for died in reality A-mount only. Pay attention.

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
Zeiss Batis 25mm f/2.0 is Tamron 24/2 lens. By the way.
Whoa, there is a Tamron 24mm f2 prime in production?? Bring that to K-mount!

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
„110 000 = 976 USD. Do you need right currency converter?
Why would anyone be interested in a US price including 8% Japanese sales tax? And even when the tax is removed, prices are usually higher in Japan then in US.
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ogl, I would advise you to read more carefully what other people have written before getting on your high horse.

Zeiss Batis FE Sonnar T* 85mm f/1.8 definitely corresponds to a Tamron-patented formula, I did not write the contrary. What I have written, and I stand by it, is that Zeiss Batis, with 11 elements in 8 groups, on the one hand, the Tamron SP announced today, with 13 elements in 9 groups, on the other hand are two different lenses. Even if you are "sure" of the contrary, that "it's a marketing trick" and there is "no difference in optical design at all." Indeed, 13 elements instead of 11, why bother? That's the same, somebody just miscounted some pieces of glass.

As for the anticipated US price of Tamron SP 85mm f/1.8, may I suggest you to check whether the ratio between the Japanese price („90,000) and the US price ($649) of the other Tamron lens announced today, the 90mm macro, strictly corresponds to the „/$ exchange rate? (hint: domestic prices of Japanese products are often higher than export prices)

May I further suggest you to make the following, not so complicated calculation:

110,000 (Japanese price of Tamron SP 85mm) ÷ 90,000 (Japanese price of Tamron SP 90mm macro) x 649 (US price of Tamron SP 90 macro)

and post the outcome in this thread?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Simen1 Quote
Why would anyone be interested in a US price including 8% Japanese sales tax?
„110,000 is without the Japanese so-called 'consumption tax'. „118,800 is the same price, consumption tax (8%) included.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Na Horuk Quote
Whoa, there is a Tamron 24mm f2 prime in production?? Bring that to K-mount!
There is patent The rumors says that Batis 25/2 is Tamron developed too.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
ogl, I would advise you to read more carefully what other people have written before getting on your high horse.


„110,000 is without the Japanese so-called 'consumption tax'. „118,800 is the same price, consumption tax (8%) included.
Who will buy DFA85/1.8 with higher price than FA77? Or even with the same?
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Who will buy DFA85/1.8 with higher price than FA77? Or even with the same?
I would, if it had a DC/SDM motor and WR (coming as an owner of the current Sigma 85mm f1.4)
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QuoteOriginally posted by hoopsontoast Quote
I would, if it had a DC/SDM motor and WR (coming as an owner of the current Sigma 85mm f1.4)
Do you really need WR and motor for portraits?
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
Do you really need WR and motor for portraits?
After using a combo of the FA43 and FA135 with the K85 & Voigtlander 58mm Nokton, and now using the Sigma 85mm f1.4 with HSM I would say yes. WR helps everywhere it can IMO.
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After using a combo of the FA43 and FA135 with the K85 & Voigtlander 58mm Nokton, and now using the Sigma 85mm f1.4 with HSM I would say yes. WR helps everywhere it can IMO.
I'm afraid the expensive DFA85/1.8 with WR and SDM would hardly compete with FA77 Limited. Only DFA85/1.4 has sense now.

85/1.8 or even 85/2 should be not higher than 500 USD. IMO of course
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