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02-18-2016, 08:48 AM   #256
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QuoteOriginally posted by Dave L Quote
And the DA 10-17mm fisheye gets an extra 20 degrees horizontally making it 170 degrees at 10mm.
Only if you Dremel off the built-in lens hood

02-18-2016, 08:49 AM   #257
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This guy says that K-1 is ugly.....

I think it's just as beautiful as K3 and other models as well
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lev Quote
Pentax Full Frame - FIRST LOOK - K-1 & 15-30mm f2.8 - YouTube

This guy says that K-1 is ugly.....

I think it's just as beautiful as K3 and other models as well
Any dude who says any camera is beautiful has serious mental problems. They look like hunks of plastic or metal for the most part. What a drama queen.

To that I say...
"Your mother is ugly and she dresses you funny... but I still think you're OK, don't I?"
02-18-2016, 09:07 AM   #259
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QuoteOriginally posted by awaldram Quote
Try it - google K1 and see how many hits you get for the 'failed' k-01
Hmm. I get a lot of very relevant hits for the K-1. From dpreview, ricoh-imaging, popphoto, PF, engagdet, imaging-resource...

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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
Any dude who says any camera is beautiful has serious mental problems. They look like hunks of plastic or metal for the most part. What a drama queen.

To that I say...
"Your mother is ugly and she dresses you funny... but I still think you're OK, don't I?"
Well, there is the SV. Beautiful, in a classic industrial design sense, like a Raymond Loewi EMD-F locomotive.
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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
Any dude who says any camera is beautiful has serious mental problems. They look like hunks of plastic or metal for the most part.
There's "art" made from plastic and/or metal. Aesthetic considerations can and do apply to cameras, too (even though what it matters is what gets out of the camera).
02-18-2016, 09:23 AM   #262
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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
Any dude who says any camera is beautiful has serious mental problems. They look like hunks of plastic or metal for the most part. What a drama queen.
So if your guest will tell you that your house looks like a shit, it's ok for you? I believe a lot of plastic and metal are used there.... If I say beautiful car doesn't mean I like it more than a beautiful woman....

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To that I say...
"Your mother is ugly and she dresses you funny... but I still think you're OK, don't I?"
I don't really get it
02-18-2016, 09:27 AM   #263
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"Your mother is ugly and she dresses you funny... but I still think you're OK, don't I?"
An unfortunate Hank Moody mis-quote there, Norm...

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Remember the thread stating that the camera needs to be priced at $1,800 or less to be a success, and most of us (including me) thought that would not be possible. Well, it is.
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QuoteOriginally posted by BigMackCam Quote
An unfortunate Hank Moody mis-quote there, Norm...
Don't get it either, maybe I also have reading problems together with mental problems.
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Oh I get it. There's a school of thought wherein function is paramount and aesthetic considerations shouldn't be considered, especially as a ranking factor in a decision set. I sort of agree, but to paraphrase Vince Lombardi, "I'll take a good pretty camera over a good ugly camera every day."
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The chart from DPR is interesting. DPR also quotes Ricoh as saying all DA zooms are crop mode only. Some of this info seems to go against user tests....

DA Prime Lens / Utility on K-1
DA 14mm Crop Mode Only
DA 21mm Limited Crop Mode Only
DA 15 F4 Limited Crop Mode Only
DA 35mm F2.4 Stopped-down
DA 35mm F2.8 Macro Stopped-down
DA 40mm Limited Stopped-down
DA 40mm XS Stopped-down
DA 50mm F1.8 Stopped-down
DA* 55mm F1.4 Stopped-down
DA 70mm Limited Stopped-down
DA* 200mm F2.8 SDM Fully Functional
DA* 300mm F4 SDM Fully Functional
DA 560mm F5.6 Fully Functional
RC1.4X Crop Mode Only

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QuoteOriginally posted by BigMackCam Quote
An unfortunate Hank Moody mis-quote there, Norm...
I have no idea who Hank Moody is and "You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny " has been saying since I was 10 years old. " I don't care what everyone says about you, you're OK with me" is also I line I've heard for 20 years, and I chose to creatively combine them. Us comedic geniuses do that.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Oh I get it. There's a school of thought wherein function is paramount and aesthetic considerations shouldn't be considered, especially as a ranking factor in a decision set. I sort of agree, but to paraphrase Vince Lombardi, "I'll take a good pretty camera over a good ugly camera every day."
I agree, but again, I don't think that K1 is ugly, don't you? and what's wrong if someone will say it's beautiful?
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Don't get it either, maybe I also have reading problems together with mental problems.
I'm sure I have both and ADD but you don't see me bragging do you?

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I agree, but again, I don't think that K1 is ugly, don't you? and what's wrong if someone will say it's beautiful?
I just don't see how whether the reveiwer thinks a camera is ugly or not belongs in a camera review. I don't care what he thinks about how the camera looks. But hey, that's just me.

In the comparison photos, I thought, "That looks like a Pentax." it never became pin up material for me.
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