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02-21-2016, 08:02 PM   #466
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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
On the youtube review (posted on the front page of PF here) the guy said he saw no vignetting on his copy.. it should be a solid lens on the K-1.
I'm sure he is shooting in JPEG and the K-1 is correcting the image with in camera software. It makes sense that people don't see any problem with the DA* 55mm in OOC JPEGs. The images I have seen from the A7 need correction. I'm sure there will be a lens profile for the DA* 55mm for most RAW processors and most people will be very happy with the results.

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Hi all,
DPR saying 14 "out of production" lenses being optically corrected in K-1, has anyone got that list ?
Kenspo ?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Zygonyx Quote
Hi all,
DPR saying 14 "out of production" lenses being optically corrected in K-1, has anyone got that list ?
Kenspo ?
Adam posted the list in another thread.. it is a lot of the FA lenses

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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
I'm sure he is shooting in JPEG and the K-1 is correcting the image with in camera software. It makes sense that people don't see any problem with the DA* 55mm in OOC JPEGs. The images I have seen from the A7 need correction. I'm sure there will be a lens profile for the DA* 55mm for most RAW processors and most people will be very happy with the results.
He shows you the liveview straight from the camera in the video..
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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
Adam posted the list in another thread.. it is a lot of the FA lenses

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He shows you the liveview straight from the camera in the video..
The histogram is pulled from the JPEG image that is used to display the image on the rear LCD. No manufacturer I knows of shows a RAW histogram.

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On the youtube review (posted on the front page of PF here) the guy said he saw no vignetting on his copy.. it should be a solid lens on the K-1.

It was tested here
SMC Pentax DA* 55mm f/1.4 on Sony A7R : ERPhotoReview
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QuoteOriginally posted by pinholecam Quote
Summary: "The DA* 55mm lens completely covers a full frame image circle with a high level of correction."

The reviewer also remarks that the hood causes slight vignetting when the lens is used on a full-frame camera. So perhaps Pentax will offer this lens with a different hood in the future?

In general, I believe people will have to get used to higher levels of "vignetting" on a full-frame camera as the mount size does not change and one hence does not get the same amount of "over-engineering" of the image circle that true FF lenses embody when used on a crop camera.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
Adam posted the list in another thread.. it is a lot of the FA lenses
Indeed, sheesh, thanks Ricoh :

FA* 24mm
FA 28mm
FA 31mm Limited
FA 35mm
FA 43mm Limited
FA 50mm F1.4
FA 77mm Limited
FA* 85mm
FA* 200mm
FA* 200mm Macro
FA* 300mm F2.8
FA* 300mm F4.5
FA* 400mm F5.6
FA* 600mm
FA* 28-70mm
FA* 80-200mm
FA* 250-600mm
(most of these profiles are unique to the K-1)
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QuoteOriginally posted by wkraus Quote
Highly improbable, although I assume it will mechanically fit. On the one hand, the finder window of the K-1 is bigger than on the APS-C models, while the finder image is much bigger. On the other, the O-ME53 has a slightly narrow view even on my K-5 II. But you might possibly use it when shooting the K-1 in crop mode, although it might be difficult to read the finder infos.
My assumption concerning the O-ME53 may have been premature. I just tried it on my old Z-1p (with a 0.8x viewfinder magnification) and it does indeed work fine. We'll have to wait and see.

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There is also the possibility of simply going manual crop with the K-1 - using your APS-C lenses in FF mode, seeing what works (or not) and what aperture or focal length gives you results you are happy with, and then manually cropping the 36MP image to suit (if needed).
[snip...]
That's a cool option. In my early test of the Samyang 16mm f/2 APS-C lens I noted "... if and when Pentax offers that FF camera you might also use the Samyang 16mm for a 22 by 22 square format with the FOV of a 40mm lens on the Hasselblad", with top notch image quality.

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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Ricoh has prepared lens aberration correction in the full frame only for the 200, 300 and 560. All the rest of the DA lenses are listed in the crop lenses table. That doesn't mean DA*55 isn't fully compatible - just that Ricoh hasn't installed lens correction in the FF mode.
Since the correction parameters (polynomial coefficients) are stored in the lens ROM and read from there by the camera, isn't it likely that any pre-FF DA (and probably other) lenses won't be corrected well outside the APS-C area ? The data simply isn't there.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
people will have to get used to higher levels of "vignetting" on a full-frame camera
Happily, vignetting has become part of the FF 'look' for many .

Heavy vignetting is also a fact of life for most of the fast FF 'bokeh' primes everyone prizes - eg:

% of light-falloff [from Lenstip.com ].
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Am I right if I think vignetting has a relationship to the how smooth the bokeh are at the edges of out of focus specular lights?
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Well I ain't getting one ! Look at the price for it at CR Kennedy in Australia:

https://pentax.com.au/products/19568

Thats just ridiculous ! In the US you'll pay $1799. The Australia Pentax price for the K-1 is $3188. The current exchange rate for $1799US is $2502AUD (as of 22/02/2016). How is there a $686AU dollar markup ? I mean we're still paying too much for Pentax k-3's. No wonder Pentax gets pulled from stores in my area ...... Teds, Photo continental, Camera House, and JB's dumped Pentax years ago. The K-3 is still the same price as when I bought it a year and a half ago, and CR Kennedy is still selling K-50's.

I constantly see Pentax bodies and lenses going on special in the US, and never here in Aus.

CR Kennedy shouldn't have put the price up by $680 bucks, why not $1680 bucks !

CR Kennedy is gonna send Pentax out of business in Australia. The distributor her in Australia is at fault here. Its just outrageous.

Forget it !
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Sounds incredible for sure...
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How is there a $686AU dollar markup ?
You are forgetting GST.

The US prices are not directly transferable to countries with a GST scheme. If you consider your 10% GST, then the markup is "only" AUD$ 436. (Thanks to Paul Ewins for correcting my initially incorrect GST assumption).

Now I agree there is still no good reason for such a markup but it seems a little less outrageous then the one you discussed. I guess price differences can be explained by different market structures, competition, etc., blah, blah, but it still sucks.

If you think CRK is bad, you haven't seen our New Zealand distributor Ian R. Little. They haven't even woken up to the fact that a K-1 exists. I've tried numerous times to alert Pentax/Hoya/Ricoh to the fact that Ian R. Little are severely hurting their business, but not even Ricoh seems to care.

P.S.: The recommended retail price in Germany seems remarkably close to the US price (with the standard 19% VAT added).

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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
You are forgetting GST.

The US prices are not directly transferable to countries with a GST scheme. If you consider your 15% GST, then the markup is "only" AUD$ 313.

Now I agree there is still no good reason for such a markup but it seems less outrageous then the one you discussed. I guess price differences can be explained by different market structures, competition, etc., blah, blah, but it still sucks.

If you think CRK is bad, you haven't seen our New Zealand distributor Ian R. Little. They haven't even woken up to the fact that a K-1 exists. I've tried numerous times to alert Pentax/Hoya/Ricoh to the fact that Ian R. Little are severely hurting their business, but not even Ricoh seems to care.

P.S.: The recommended retail price in Germany seems remarkably close to the US price (with the standard 19% VAT added).
Our GST is only 10%. so it is a $400 premium based on US prices. The price is equivalent to a Nikon Df but less than a D810.
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