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02-27-2016, 05:19 PM   #691
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Well, if you mean HD like on HD D-FA*70-200/2.8, i agree.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Dave L Quote
All markets are different and there's not a lot any of us can do about it really..
Yeah there's nothing anybody can do about it ! Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia, nothing anybody could do about it ! Saddam Hussien invaded Kuwait, uh! what can you do about that ! Just accept it hey ! lo


QuoteOriginally posted by robjmitchell Quote
The nikon stock in australia would have been shipped and priced before the bottom dropped out of the Aussie dollar.
Good point, but it is an assumption, based on stock being 12 months old, and I would assume stock could be imported every 3 months, but we're only speculating. But a D750 at $2297AUD translates to $1636USD ........seems like the Americans are getting ripped off to the tune of $360USD bucks !

For the K-1 the US pays $1796 + 10% GST = $1975USD, converted to $2771AUD and a street price of $2899 = Australia pays roughly $128AUD more than the US for the K-1 ........ Still getting ripped off ! No way I'd call that fair.

I'm sort of doubting a lot of this exchange rate stuff, from time to time it seems like it relates to price, and at other times it doesn't. Take for instance Ed at Photouniverse. He was happy as the USD rose in value and camera prices came down ........ So where does that leave this Nikon D750 price in the US. The Aussie dollar fell against every major currency, and yet the D750 is cheaper than in USD terms. Or is it that the D750 is such a popular camera, that Nikon feels it can just charge what ever it wants to US customers, and they just jump out of the water into the boat.

So its exchange rate versus (Answer = ripp-off). I still think answer = ripp-off.

Pluuuuuus Nikon has been continuously giving cashback offers on the D600, D610 and D750. The oil spray issue is well known on the D600 and D610, and perhaps the Nikon D750 is an orphan after that debacle. In the US, Nikon got sued and they had to fix the problem, here in Aus Nikon is still trying to off-load these SLOS (Single Lens Oil Squirter) to Aussie customers at huge discounts. Who's to know, it may be that Nikon is using Australia as a dumping ground for their defective products, I'm just speculating. Or Sony really kick some behind with the A7, and they all went into cashback mode, and they did do that a lot !

I think exchange rates play a small part in it, and the rest is demand, and competition from Sony stealing canikon thunder.


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IMO, the answer is simple: the K-1 hasn't even hit shelves yet, and the D750 has been out for what, over a year and a half?

The stock and pace of shelf-flying-off is a known situation for the D750, so that price has stabilized at whatever the market dictates.

The K-1 hasn't even begun selling yet, or shipping. So who knows, maybe it was so popular in AUS that immediate pre-orders were through the roof, or at least sufficient to consume an entire first shipment, in which case, they can get away with waiting 6-12 months before dropping the price further.

So, if you want a K-1 but are simply miffed by the fact that it currently costs more than a D750, ...wait six months?
No I'm ticked off because they initially priced the K-1 at $3188 inline with the Nikon D810 and Canon 5D mark3 price. Inspite of all the great features of the K-1, you can't put a camera with 33 AF points and low lens ecosystem against canikon. If it had 133 AF points and a full compliment of superb pro-grade telephotos for sport and wildlife, then yeah, charge what ever you want like canikon. But Sony is just simply gonna under-cut everybodies prices with theA7 range IMO.
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QuoteOriginally posted by zoolander Quote
Yeah there's nothing anybody can do about it ! Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia, nothing anybody could do about it ! Saddam Hussien invaded Kuwait, uh! what can you do about that ! Just accept it hey ! lo
Free market forces is hardly comparable to fascist dictatorships now, is it! Get enough people to support you and complain and you can, of course, can change things. But I know the feeling, the UK-US differential was so bad when I first got into Pentax (with an ME) that it was considerably cheaper for me to import my M-100mm lens from the States even when adding import duty, postage costs and value added tax. It's still there but has reduced to the point where it's not usually worthwhile making such imports, it does sound worse in Oz though I have to admit.
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QuoteOriginally posted by zoolander Quote
Yeah there's nothing anybody can do about it ! Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia, nothing anybody could do about it ! Saddam Hussien invaded Kuwait, uh! what can you do about that ! Just accept it hey ! lo




Good point, but it is an assumption, based on stock being 12 months old, and I would assume stock could be imported every 3 months, but we're only speculating. But a D750 at $2297AUD translates to $1636USD ........seems like the Americans are getting ripped off to the tune of $360USD bucks !

For the K-1 the US pays $1796 + 10% GST = $1975USD, converted to $2771AUD and a street price of $2899 = Australia pays roughly $128AUD more than the US for the K-1 ........ Still getting ripped off ! No way I'd call that fair.

I'm sort of doubting a lot of this exchange rate stuff, from time to time it seems like it relates to price, and at other times it doesn't. Take for instance Ed at Photouniverse. He was happy as the USD rose in value and camera prices came down ........ So where does that leave this Nikon D750 price in the US. The Aussie dollar fell against every major currency, and yet the D750 is cheaper than in USD terms. Or is it that the D750 is such a popular camera, that Nikon feels it can just charge what ever it wants to US customers, and they just jump out of the water into the boat.

So its exchange rate versus (Answer = ripp-off). I still think answer = ripp-off.

Pluuuuuus Nikon has been continuously giving cashback offers on the D600, D610 and D750. The oil spray issue is well known on the D600 and D610, and perhaps the Nikon D750 is an orphan after that debacle. In the US, Nikon got sued and they had to fix the problem, here in Aus Nikon is still trying to off-load these SLOS (Single Lens Oil Squirter) to Aussie customers at huge discounts. Who's to know, it may be that Nikon is using Australia as a dumping ground for their defective products, I'm just speculating. Or Sony really kick some behind with the A7, and they all went into cashback mode, and they did do that a lot !

I think exchange rates play a small part in it, and the rest is demand, and competition from Sony stealing canikon thunder.




No I'm ticked off because they initially priced the K-1 at $3188 inline with the Nikon D810 and Canon 5D mark3 price. Inspite of all the great features of the K-1, you can't put a camera with 33 AF points and low lens ecosystem against canikon. If it had 133 AF points and a full compliment of superb pro-grade telephotos for sport and wildlife, then yeah, charge what ever you want like canikon. But Sony is just simply gonna under-cut everybodies prices with theA7 range IMO.
The cheapest shipping for a K1 from BH is 53 dollars. Call it US$1850. So at the current exchange rate of 71c you save $30 dollars australian shipping from US.
On the 8th of feb or there about the dollar was a 69.8 and it would have cost you $15 more to buy from US.
Meanwhile there is a stack of pentax lenses whose prices have yet to be re adjusted and are an absolute steal!
And that is before you potentially knock of a bit by shopping around!

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QuoteOriginally posted by robjmitchell Quote
The cheapest shipping for a K1 from BH is 53 dollars. Call it US$1850. So at the current exchange rate of 71c you save $30 dollars australian shipping from US.
With no local warranty.

Enough of this nonsense.

Of course pain is involved in amateurs buying expensive gear they can't claim as a tax deduction, charge to clients, etc.

I'm not sure how I'll make it happen. Haven't ruled out kidney selling or white slavery.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Dave L Quote
Free market forces is hardly comparable to fascist dictatorships now, is it!
Lots of folks were like, "oh, what cha gonna do about it".

QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote
Of course pain is involved in amateurs buying expensive gear they can't claim as a tax deduction, charge to clients, etc.

I'm not sure how I'll make it happen. Haven't ruled out kidney selling or white slavery.
Hey at least you got a plan !

All I know is, I wasn't planning on getting a K-1, but now I'm kinda interested, but I'll wait till its cheaper. If it doesn't go below the price of a nikon D750 I won't bother. After all there are Sony A7's out there for under $1000AUD, but I ain't that desperate ......... yet !
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There is lots of price hunt and compare services, usually constricted to one country at a time. We should start an international comparison of K-1 prices converted to USD without taxes.

------------------------------ Please copy this and add the lowest price in your country, converted to USD and subtracted taxes ------------------------------
Norway: Feb. 28. 2016, 1842 USD

------------------------------ Please copy this and add the lowest price in your country, converted to USD and subtracted taxes ------------------------------

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02-28-2016, 04:40 AM   #698
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QuoteOriginally posted by zoolander Quote
No I'm ticked off because they initially priced the K-1 at $3188 inline with the Nikon D810 and Canon 5D mark3 price. Inspite of all the great features of the K-1, you can't put a camera with 33 AF points and low lens ecosystem against canikon.
Ricoh can (and - as a commercially savvy business, should) price the camera at a level that will generate sufficient demand to make the venture profitable, as well as increasing their market share, and without ruining their K3II market at the same time (remember, they have more than the K-1 to think about here). Whether you personally like the price or not, there will be more than enough demand for the K-1 to make it profitable at the release price. Plus, as time goes by, the price will drop as demand weakens, and the next tier of buyers will jump on the lower pricing - as always happens.

QuoteOriginally posted by zoolander Quote
If it had 133 AF points and a full compliment of superb pro-grade telephotos for sport and wildlife, then yeah, charge what ever you want like canikon.
They can and will charge whatever they like, whatever the features and lens support. No sense getting ticked off over it. The market will decide whether the pricing is right - and if it isn't, market forces will correct it.

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Yeah there's nothing anybody can do about it ! Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia, nothing anybody could do about it ! Saddam Hussien invaded Kuwait, uh! what can you do about that ! Just accept it hey ! lo


Congratulations man !
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Can someone explain why a Pentax K-1 is cheaper than a Nikon D750 in the US, but in Australia the K-1 is $602 more expensive than a Nikon D750.
Because the Nikon D750 is very cheap in Australia and the K-1 costs about as much as in the US when taking tax into account. The question is why Americans pay so much for the D750.
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This thread has wandered so far afield that it is no longer recognizable.

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What is its price in the UK? How much maximum memory card does it support?
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£1599 and it supports Dual SD/SDHC/SDXC (UHS-I) (so it should be up to 2TB *2 (if tou can find cards that big) according to the sdxc standard.
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Congratulations man !
You seem to have missed the fact that Godwin's Law has been suspended until further notice because of all the political nut cases currently raging on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean.
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I like the K-1 pictures in this article.

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/review/special/20160229_745462.html

I'm not sure they're big enough to draw any conclusions about image quality though.
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