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03-18-2016, 03:52 AM   #901
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QuoteOriginally posted by ddamski Quote
In my country (Switzerland) the K-1 costs as much the D750 together with the Tamron 15-30..! (my next lens for the K-1) and has the same price as a D810. And for me It does not make a huge difference buying it from US or locally, its is almost same price. But i hope with my preorder to get the beast sooner
For a moment i did considered the D750+15-30 combo.. but the ergonomics, the solid body and my "little" lens collection kept me here
Nikon is extremely cheap in Switzerland €2100 for a D810 and €1364 for a D750. €3200 and €1950 in the Netherlands (except for some grey import no service stores). I would not pre-order it but wait until it hits the stores. Price might be a lot lower than €1999,-


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Let's not forget we have the pre-order prices right now. This is the max price the camera will ever have, in particular as such device follow the principle that you start at high price and drop pirce fast.

I sure soon we will be able to find the K-1 a bit cheap than the introduction price. Maybe 1500-1600$ in US, 1700-1800€ in europe. After next Christmas the price will drop even more. And I would expect the price to approach 1000$ at some point.

If you want your FF for a cheaper price, it really make sense to wait a bit more. Quite likely the price will be more interresting than Canikon offer.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Nicolas06 Quote
Let's not forget we have the pre-order prices right now. This is the max price the camera will ever have, in particular as such device follow the principle that you start at high price and drop pirce fast.

I sure soon we will be able to find the K-1 a bit cheap than the introduction price. Maybe 1500-1600$ in US, 1700-1800 in europe. After next Christmas the price will drop even more. And I would expect the price to approach 1000$ at some point.

If you want your FF for a cheaper price, it really make sense to wait a bit more. Quite likely the price will be more interresting than Canikon offer.
As many people here, i dont think that the price of the K1 falls that quickly.
03-18-2016, 01:25 PM   #904
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QuoteOriginally posted by virusn3t Quote
As many people here, i dont think that the price of the K1 falls that quickly.
All is in the definition of quick. The start is april anyway. Now will the K1 sell for $1000 before Christmas? Likely not, but you might find it at 1500$...Now will it be still around 1500-1800$ in 2 year, that very unlikely.

There no reason to expect to drop in price slower or faster than equivalent gear... In absolute terms for me, it mean if I want 2-3 years from know I would be able to buy a Pentax FF with lot of features for 1000-1200. 2 years ago what you got for that was a K3 and 2 years before that was a K5...

If you don't live for photography, basically it mean you go on a bit with life, you check back and you get much more for less ! Now if a few month look like a long time to you that's different.

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There is indeed no chance that K-1's price drop would be parallel/proportionnal as if it would be Pentax's APS-C flagship.

Unless its 1000 bucks launch price advantage would start some price-war answer from Canikon... which is unlikely...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Nicolas06 Quote
All is in the definition of quick. The start is april anyway. Now will the K1 sell for $1000 before Christmas? Likely not, but you might find it at 1500$...Now will it be still around 1500-1800$ in 2 year, that very unlikely.

There no reason to expect to drop in price slower or faster than equivalent gear... In absolute terms for me, it mean if I want 2-3 years from know I would be able to buy a Pentax FF with lot of features for 1000-1200. 2 years ago what you got for that was a K3 and 2 years before that was a K5...

If you don't live for photography, basically it mean you go on a bit with life, you check back and you get much more for less ! Now if a few month look like a long time to you that's different.
Unless theres a lot of margin, i dont think the price of the K1 drop THAT fast, not that the price it wont fall. 1500usd is likely at a year or when the K1ii is close to appear, high end gear or any product with constant sales tend to maintain the price like the 645z, price are dropped but not 40% like 1800 to 1000usd
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I'll bet $2 to your €1 the K-1 body stays above $1,600 MAP for all of calendar 2016 and above $1,400 MAP for all of calendar 2017.*

* Black Friday - type specials excepted. US MAP prices.

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Agree. I do not think the price will drop as fast as other previous cameras. Three reasons, first I think they already priced it agressively, second demand will be high and continue longer than previous cameras, and third the life cycle on this camera will be nuch longer than aps-c bodies so no need to move them out to make room for the next model.

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How many times have we thought something and been wrong.. it tends to be we don't show the wrongs and like to point out the few times we are right.

Not that it really matters.. all these bets are worthless beyond watercooler type fun chatter.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
How many times have we thought something and been wrong.. it tends to be we don't show the wrongs and like to point out the few times we are right.

Not that it really matters.. all these bets are worthless beyond watercooler type fun chatter.
But that's the fun of making the bet.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Zygonyx Quote
There is indeed no chance that K-1's price drop would be parallel/proportionnal as if it would be Pentax's APS-C flagship.

Unless its 1000 bucks launch price advantage would start some price-war answer from Canikon... which is unlikely...
The war started in Pentax main market, Japan:
K-1 and Market Reaction: Price War in Japan: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

K-1 is priced 250,290 Yen (2200 USD)
Nikon D810? is priced 259,499 Yen (2281 USD)
EOS 5D Mark III is priced 248,999 Yen (2189 USD)
D750 is "priced 167,997 Yen (1476 USD),
EOS 6D is priced 135,800 yen (1194 USD).
D7200 is priced 88,422 Yen (777 USD)
EOS 70D is priced 88,500 Yen (778 USD)
K-3II is priced 94,452 Yen (830 USD).


"This is now happening, the price war, and all is started by the coming of Pentax K-1."


Pentax is basically more expensive than Canikon on most front and same price as D810 in Japan. Not sure it match its AF. I agree all theses product were more expensive before K-1 and even more when there were announced, but for potential buyers what count are the features (including price point) vs the competition. With theses prices, K-1 will sell to existing Pentax user because it is not too expensive, but it would not steal any market from the other too. Come on! You can get an FF almost for half the price of K-1 in that market if you want (Canon 6D). Like for APSC, it is not the most expensive model that sell the most. After all the key features of FF segment is FF sensor, not the rest.

The war will be there.

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It also depends on exchange rate. If oil prices rebound and a more typical currency balance happens, it could change a lot of prices, up and down...

The US could see a rise in prices and Russia a huge drop, for example...

-Eric
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QuoteOriginally posted by TwoUptons Quote
It also depends on exchange rate. If oil prices rebound and a more typical currency balance happens, it could change a lot of prices, up and down...

The US could see a rise in prices and Russia a huge drop, for example...

-Eric
Why would US see a big change? Japan doesn't produce oil, it shouldn't help their money. On the contrary US is among the top producer of oil wordwide, so I don't see how this would put $ in danger.

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QuoteOriginally posted by ddamski Quote
In my country (Switzerland) the K-1 costs as much the D750 together with the Tamron 15-30..! (my next lens for the K-1) and has the same price as a D810. And for me It does not make a huge difference buying it from US or locally, its is almost same price. But i hope with my preorder to get the beast sooner
For a moment i did considered the D750+15-30 combo.. but the ergonomics, the solid body and my "little" lens collection kept me here

I now count two pre orders from switzerland!
Happy to see fellow countrymen on here
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