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04-14-2016, 10:18 AM   #1006
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Pentax could have APS-C crop mode, APS-H crop mode, APS-P crop mode, 4/3 crop mode, 16:9 crop mode, square crop mode and so on. But I think it would be messy menu and viewfinder in use and in documentation to have a large matrix of what lenses goes how well with the various crops. I think its as easy as it should be right now. All other crops are available in post processing.

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Some early firmware versions reportedly had a square crop. And if I remember right the Nikon D800 has something like a 1.2 crop that would be useful. But in the end simple works. If you want to have an APS-H crop (or any other crop) shoot FF and crop in post. Additional crop modes would have been a cool feature but Pentax decided not to implement them for whatever reason.

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The reason for adding the crop mode is for framing purposes within the viewfinder. And I am not asking for 5 crop modes just those that correspond to specific Pentax lenses.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rico Quote
The reason for adding the crop mode is for framing purposes within the viewfinder.
And a good idea it is.

And maybe this is silly but when you mount an APS-C lens will not be able to see the image circle and frame accordingly? Or maybe I don't understand how this works..........

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(...) Most of the DA LTDs should work optimally at APS-H.
Says who?

(apart from you, obviously )
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QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
Pentax decided not to implement them for whatever reason.
Simplicity. APS-C crop is obvious, to work with APS-C lenses. But the rest is simply NOT NECESSARY, and would introduce further complications, not to mention a cluttered viewfinder from all the overlays that would be necessary. They had to work hard enough already on this camera; why make their jobs any more difficult?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
Says who?

(apart from you, obviously )

I dunno if I am dying for an APSH crop, but I wish they had left the square. I shot a lot of weddings in square format. It was great not giving a second thought to portrait or landscape orientation. Even when I switched to my Pentax 645, I still shot square in my mind and didn't flip the camera around. No time, or you might miss an important shot. They even make square albums ... Square would give the most pixel bang for the buck out of APSC Lenses... Ahah! I see the problem! Ricoh knew a square crop if available might cut into FF lens sales! They must have studied the market again, dang it!


or... they didn't want to clutter up the viewfinder with more crop frames... and... some APSC lenses might have a rectangular mask on the rear element.


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QuoteOriginally posted by Rico Quote
The reason for adding the crop mode is for framing purposes within the viewfinder. And I am not asking for 5 crop modes just those that correspond to specific Pentax lenses.
No pentax lens was designed for APS-H, there only APSC and FF that are compatible with K-mount.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Erictator Quote
I dunno if I am dying for an APSH crop, but I wish they had left the square. I shot a lot of weddings in square format. It was great not giving a second thought to portrait or landscape orientation. Even when I switched to my Pentax 645, I still shot square in my mind and didn't flip the camera around. No time, or you might miss an important shot. They even make square albums ... Square would give the most pixel bang for the buck out of APSC Lenses... Ahah! I see the problem! Ricoh knew a square crop if available might cut into FF lens sales! They must have studied the market again, dang it!


or... they didn't want to clutter up the viewfinder with more crop frames... and... some APSC lenses might have a rectangular mask on the rear element.


Eric
Yeah, +1 for square crop.
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And maybe this is silly but when you mount an APS-C lens will not be able to see the image circle and frame accordingly? Or maybe I don't understand how this works..........
Thats right. You will see the image circle if it is within the full frame.

-1 for square crop. I don’t need or want that option when shooting. All choices I can postpone to post processing makes me focus better on the choices that can't be moved to post process, like choosing the depth of field, consider the lighting situation, waiting for the right moment and so on. If I had to do 100 choices for every shot, I'm sure I would forget to consider at least 90 of them.

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Finally, I've pulled the trigger and pre-ordered the K-1. The sensible part of me counselled that I should wait until some reviews appeared, and PF members had reported back on their experiences with the camera... But, as I suspected it would, the impulsive part of me (stricken as I am with terminal PBA - Pentax Buying Addiction) finally won over. The £130 discount on the accompanying lens helped, too. According to the gentleman at SRS Microsystems, UK, they expect to be shipping on 25 May. My procrastination has meant that I will not be among the first recipients as all the first shipment is already spoken for, and although I am envious of those of you who will be getting the camera very soon now, I think I can endure the wait. I'm particularly looking forward to trying out the pixel shift mode, as I am very impressed with its implementation on the K-3 II, albeit in controlled circumstances.
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Official date for first availability in France is April, 28th : same as for Japan.
I just read this that can be useful for all French Pentaxians willing to try it : Venez prendre en main le reflex Pentax K-1
Enjoy
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I just read this that can be useful for all French Pentaxians willing to try it
A good idea - Pentax organising 'discovery days' in major regional cities to allow people to check the new camera out with the new lenses etc, and maybe bring their own. Similar to what Pentax Japan has organised, I believe.

Hopefully something like that might happen in Australia.
04-15-2016, 05:14 AM   #1019
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QuoteOriginally posted by virusn3t Quote
Every time i recieve a notification update from this thread i think i will finally read "my k1 have been shipped" or see the picture of Kenspo with two K1 .... Unsuscribing the thread for sanity reason... The wait was more bearable when i know still was left months to realease rather than just a few weeks
Sorry. It's your own fault -- the delivery needed to go 10000 paces east. You told them to go weast.
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QuoteOriginally posted by gorme Quote
I just read this that can be useful for all French Pentaxians willing to try it : Venez prendre en main le reflex Pentax K-1
Enjoy
Eventually, some reasonnable thing
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