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04-29-2016, 12:02 PM   #1291
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QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote
kenspo, you may not have followed it, but before you, the forum has seen another brand ambassador. It was benjikan (Benjamin Kanarek, a well know fashion photographer from Paris and North America) and I do still remember that the divorce with Pentax wasn't nice.
Arrogance of equally talented people isn't a problem, except that business managers have to manage a business by balancing various elements, including sponsoring which, by the way belong to marketing activities and budget, but a CEO of Ricoh, Canon or Nikon have clearly other things to then to read letters of someone asking to get for free two camera bodies and three lenses. If Kenspo talks about his relationship with regional sales & marketing staff of Ricoh, to me it looks much more realistic versus a fashion photog among many in Paris who writes directly to the CEO of a Japanese conglomerate and is upset because the CEO isn't going to change the strategy of the company for him.

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Hey everyone - we're all speculating again and cannot possibly know all the facts. Taking care to avoid projecting conclusions and limiting hyperbole is probably a good idea.
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+1 monochrome.
Let's don't spoil the fun using our new toy - that i do find extrordinarily pleasant to use , and think we all should be gratefull to Ricoh Imaging ; for something we don't know about from the start, the facts, nor the developments.
Kenneth still enjoys pentax gear and sill takes his job where he wants to.
Life must go on !
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+1 There nothing really bad for kenspo, he still getting his gear and still have a local contract and will provide pictures.

For us this doesn't change anything, the camera is as great as before.

For Pentax Ricoh, well, they still get the word of mouth from kenspo from his local contract.

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All the best to Kenspo, and thanks for sharing information.
Here are two pictures I shot this evening at a danceperformance. The light wan't easy, and first hour With the camera. So this is just snapshots.













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QuoteOriginally posted by Chris Mak Quote
Hi there, Kenspo,

I don't know anything about your ambassador contract with Ricoh/Pentax at all obviously, but one thing is on my mind: did Ricoh get sour over you announcing that they signed a contract over the deal with the Sony 100mp medium format sensor? I was a bit surprised to read your post "revealing" this info, and perhaps it is not related at all, but I can imagine sharing such snippets of inside information is a sensitive point in this day and age of internet sharing.
Anyway, sincerely hope it has not backfired on you, and that your relations with Ricoh/Pentax remain of value to you (and Pentax of course).
And looking forward to your images with the DFA lenses.

Chris
No, there is no bad blood between me and Pentax. They just dont wanna have ANY ambassadors for the K-1
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QuoteOriginally posted by kenspo Quote
No, there is no bad blood between me and Pentax. They just dont wanna have ANY ambassadors for the K-1
You have been a very good ambassador for the brand.Ultimately that is what they need {not every person impressed by Canon while lenses buys their $$$$ stuff; some just buy $$$ stuff}. Regardless of what Ricoh may think, their investment in you has been good for them; you should feel good about it.

BTW - I have been impressed with how you have handled this situation with grace and dignity {words I don't personally associate with hard rock}
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QuoteOriginally posted by kenspo Quote
No, there is no bad blood between me and Pentax. They just dont wanna have ANY ambassadors for the K-1
So are you still an ambassador for the K-3 or other APS-C K-mount cameras?

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Hehe, i can handle non rock'n roll stuff too But thank you for that! For me, its a good thing that the local distributor is really happy with me and my work, so they still wants me as a part of the team. So for me, it makes no difference, beside that i won't send any stuff or pics to Ricoh directly anymore. But i still get all the gear i need and will continue work hard to make the brand grow. I will be all over the place all summer, so i will make sure more people get Pentax printed in their brains hehe

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So are you still an ambassador for the K-3 or other APS-C K-mount cameras?
In theory, but i won't use aps-c as much anymore
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BTW - I have been impressed with how you have handled this situation with grace and dignity...
What "situation"?

He still gets equipment worth in excess of US$ 8000 to use for free and states nothing changes for him except that he won't be sending pictures to Ricoh directly anymore (but apparently to the distributor).

Ricoh apparently just decided that they don't need a double relationship with him, given that he is taken care of by the Ricoh distributor.

I fail to see the failure on Ricoh's behalf and also would have expected anyone in a professional relationship with Ricoh to not make a public deal about not getting an additional role that they for some reason expected to be offered.
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QuoteOriginally posted by kenspo Quote
Well, its a bit of surprise to anyone involved with Pentax. But I'm safe anyhow. I have contract with other parties. But Ricoh/Pentax won't get much pics or help from me now. Their loss. I have work with Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden + + + in the time to come..hehe
Do you know what I think Kenspo? Ever since the hay days of the Pentax 67 and their subsequent decline, they have had this self loathing non worthy self esteem issue, thus their incapacity to see when they are looking at a gift horse in the mouth...But hey, that is one of the reasons we parted our ways as well. It's not that they don't want to succeed, they just lost their way and never really knew how to find their way back. Not that I didn't try of course. Hell, I even put together a whole Marketing Plan for them that may have laid down the groundwork for a totally different public perception of their product. So Kenspo, I suggest you get on with your life and career and just take care of what really matters, the image, the gig and the notoriety associated with success. What it comes down to really is, does the instrument work the way it should and does it give you the tools to make it happen.

Have a nice weekend...

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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
What "situation"?

He still gets equipment worth in excess of US$ 8000 to use for free and states nothing changes for him except that he won't be sending pictures to Ricoh directly anymore (but apparently to the distributor).

Ricoh apparently just decided that they don't need a double relationship with him, given that he is taken care of by the Ricoh distributor.

I fail to see the failure on Ricoh's behalf and also would have expected anyone in a professional relationship with Ricoh to not make a public deal about not getting an additional role that they for some reason expected to be offered.
Thats not the problem, rather than Ricoh doenst want to maintain the ambassador program directly, have some people who can put images on the media who may atract new buyers and gave the pros one more sistem to look when they need equipment. At the end still is marketing, for both ambassador and company.

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Who gives a flying flounder about the ambassadors program... on with the K-1 photos and news.
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Who gives a flying flounder about the ambassadors program... on with the K-1 photos and news.
Ricoh should, but aparently is not a priority

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Here we go again. They're not CaniSoNikon, don't want to be, and they don't want to price their cameras where they would need to if they wanted to be. We (and so many peripheral photo industry people) aren't receiving the cues to which we are accustomed, so we think something is wrong. I'd have to guess benjkan delivered a polished, professional and carefully thought-out plan -- but it just isn't the way Ricoh wants to market. I'm sure Tony Northrup can make a good case for his website's reach . . .

They're not benighted old Japanese men in a small room of a nondescript office building. They just want to be the alternative, full-line camera company, which apparently includes an alternative form of marketing. We continue to evaluate them against two or three companies that are completely unlike Ricoh Imaging.

Compared to history, they've actually done a significant amount of 'quiet' marketing of K-1 (for instance, IIRC Adobe has responded with lens and camera profiles already published - no doubt Ricoh paid for that) and how different some of the historically negative review websites have been. When has Pentax ever had something like the K-1 Special Site, in good English, with what appears to be open technical information sharing? When has Pentax ever been open?

I think they'll sell every one of these cameras they can make without traditional marketing.

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