Originally posted by Nicolas06 Originally posted by zoolander
$289 bucks is a lot of money, you can get 1.5 to 2.5 weeks worth of groceries with $289 bucks.
I don't think one should pre-order an expensive high end camera if he is after optimizing what he get with his money. Electronics typically don't hold its value and quite likely you could pay half that price in 1-2 years buying used for the same product. And for 1/4th to 1/10th of the price, you could likely get a used camera that may not be FF or latest generation but would still does 90% of what the K1 does.
For most people, counting how much the K-1 represent in the number of day they must work to get the amount of money necessary to get it would be quite depressive. For the same price you could get an old used car that could serve you a few years.
One should be honest with himself what he is after and act accordingly.
I was just trying to illustrate what you could get for $289.
I think we all need to step back a minute and just take a look at how we are getting ripped off in the photographic game.
eg. The new Toyota Yaris is about to hit the sales room floor. Its been reviewed by the motoring magazines, and sales prices established. I have never heard of Toyota putting the price up on a new car - the Pre-order Price - as opposed to the sale price. Yes I know there will be rare limited edition cars that are order only like Ferrari's and exotica.
But these are cameras! Why is the pre-order price jacked up ? We're doing them a favor by pre-ordering the camera, and they'll have an EXACT idea of how much stock they'll need to order. If they don't put it out there in the form of a pre-order, they'll have no idea as to how much stock they should get in. If they get in too much, they'll have stock sitting. If they haven't got enough stock, they'll lose sales to their competitors.
If you pre-order football tickets, or theater tickets, or a Christmas hamper well in advance of the game, or play or Christmas ........... YOU GET A DISCOUNT !
So can we all just take a step back from this. A pre-order of anything well in advance, SHOULD translate into a discount, and not a price hike.
Originally posted by Nicolas06 They don't have to justify anything I think. Isn't Autralia a country were everybody can set the price he want?
In Australia, there are laws for everything, its a Nanny State.
https://www.accc.gov.au/business/anti-competitive-behaviour/imposing-minimum-resale-prices
Retailers have to by law set the recommended retail price. Ricoh is retailing the K-1 online (A wholesaler who is also a retailer). The price was extremely high one day, then dropped the next day by $289 ...........
WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDED RETAIL PRICE IN AUSTRALIA for the Pentax K-1 ?
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE "PRE-ORDER PRICE" AND "RETAIL PRICE" ! There is only one price.
Is Cr Kennedy performing a mock auction or faux auction. They set the price high, and rip off the big spenders, and when the pre-orders stop, drop the price and rip off the next tier of people, until we get to the Retail price. Because this is what it looks like to me.
Retail sales are regulated in Australia. I think someone needs to be done about Ricoh/CR-Kennedy over this exorbitant pre-order price, and price drop. They're performing a faux auction and not retail sales.
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Originally posted by zoolander Originally posted by Nicolas06
They don't have to justify anything I think. Isn't Autralia a country were everybody can set the price he want?
I think all western countries have similar laws regarding retail sales. On Ebay, retailers tend to set what ever price they want, unless that Ebay is "Ebay.com.au" then it is in Australia and under Australian legislation. Similarly, most ebay's in Western Countries have to abide by their laws which should be similar. I've seen foreign ebay retailers charge new prices wildly higher than the recommended retail price here.
The link below shows that Ricoh needs to abide by the law on this pre-order/retail price for the K-1. It was high, and they've discounted it and there seems to be a breach of the law.
https://www.accc.gov.au/business/pricing/setting-prices