Pentax K-1 Officially Announced

D1N0 · 02-26-2016, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I don't believe Kenko and Hoya filters are using the same materials or production line. The reason I say this - in the past 2 years I've had three Kenko UV filters that affected captured images in the same way (adding feint but noticeable diagonal lines in bokeh areas). Conversely, after testing a number of other UV filters from Tiffen, Hoya, Kood and several lesser brands, I've found Hoya HMC to be consistently good performers; not ONE of them has shown any image degradation at 1:1 magnification. Whilst hardly a scientific or conclusive test, I can only surmise that Kenko and Hoya filters are not equivalent...

Not what I am saying. They could very well be selling different filters under different names.

zoolander · 02-26-2016, 08:27 PM - **1 Like**

So the K-1 is on B&H for $1796.95USD, and the Nikon D750 on B&H is $1996.95USD.

Then in Australia the Pentax K-1 has started out at $3188AUD, next to the Nikon D810 retail price of $3191AUD.

Then Pentax/Ricoh Australia dropped the price to $2899AUD, and the Nikon D750 retails for $2297AUD in Australia.

Can someone explain why a Pentax K-1 is cheaper than a Nikon D750 in the US, but in Australia the K-1 is $602 more expensive than a Nikon D750.

Please don't answer by implying that I'm poor and can't afford one, or there's the pre-order price versus the retail price yadda yadda yadda. Or the US market is the premier market with millions of people in it, the Euro zone is similar in size, and the Asian market might be too.

(Its not a trick question, what I think is the answer will be written below)

I actually had no interest in getting a K-1, and have been really happy with my K-3. When I saw the US price I was expecting something similar here in Australia, and I thought maybe I'll give it a go. But no, they jacked up the price into the clouds here in Australia.

Its funny how everyone was ticked off how Pentax never released a full frame camera etc etc. They were ticked off how they haven't got an upgrade path, and some of them were really outraged at that, and shook their fists at Pentax.

The full frame is here, and I might be one of the first to be shaking my fist at Pentax Australia. I mean really, I never thought I'd use this expression, but Pentax is really doomed here in Australia. At least Pentax USA has given customers a real good incentive to buy a K-1 over a D750, and Pentax might gain a real foot hold in the US. But in Australia, there's no chance ....... the cameras are gone from the shelves, and most camera stores can't even be bothered to stock Pentax.

The only piece of advertising I've seen from Pentax was an infotainment commercial for the Pentax K-50 a few weeks ago. I sat there and watched the whole half hour of it for fun. I was actually excited to see Pentax advertised on TV ! I'm guessing that CRK was over-stocked on K- 50's, (I think they sold 3 during the commercial). Normally Nikon does the infotainment on that channel.

The question again: Why is the K-1 $602AUD more expensive than a Nikon D750 in Australia, while in the US, the K-1 is cheaper than a Nikon D750 ?

(Answer = Rip-off)

Pentax is Doomed ! (now I'M one of those "Pentax is doomed" caption writers)

Dave L · 02-26-2016, 08:47 PM

K-1 is £200 (AUD400) more expensive than D750 in the UK. All markets are different and there's not a lot any of us can do about it really... and K-1 is new but D750 isn't so the difference in UK and Oz will narrow in time, perhaps even reverse.

robjmitchell · 02-26-2016, 08:57 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by zoolander

So the K-1 is on B&H for $1796.95USD, and the Nikon D750 on B&H is $1996.95USD.

Then in Australia the Pentax K-1 has started out at $3188AUD, next to the Nikon D810 retail price of $3191AUD.

Then Pentax/Ricoh Australia dropped the price to $2899AUD, and the Nikon D750 retails for $2297AUD in Australia.

Can someone explain why a Pentax K-1 is cheaper than a Nikon D750 in the US, but in Australia the K-1 is $602 more expensive than a Nikon D750.

Please don't answer by implying that I'm poor and can't afford one, or there's the pre-order price versus the retail price yadda yadda yadda. Or the US market is the premier market with millions of people in it, the Euro zone is similar in size, and the Asian market might be too.

(Its not a trick question, what I think is the answer will be written below)

I actually had no interest in getting a K-1, and have been really happy with my K-3. When I saw the US price I was expecting something similar here in Australia, and I thought maybe I'll give it a go. But no, they jacked up the price into the clouds here in Australia.

Its funny how everyone was ticked off how Pentax never released a full frame camera etc etc. They were ticked off how they haven't got an upgrade path, and some of them were really outraged at that, and shook their fists at Pentax.

The full frame is here, and I might be one of the first to be shaking my fist at Pentax Australia. I mean really, I never thought I'd use this expression, but Pentax is really doomed here in Australia. At least Pentax USA has given customers a real good incentive to buy a K-1 over a D750, and Pentax might gain a real foot hold in the US. But in Australia, there's no chance ....... the cameras are gone from the shelves, and most camera stores can't even be bothered to stock Pentax.

The only piece of advertising I've seen from Pentax was an infotainment commercial for the Pentax K-50 a few weeks ago. I sat there and watched the whole half hour of it for fun. I was actually excited to see Pentax advertised on TV ! I'm guessing that CRK was over-stocked on K- 50's, (I think they sold 3 during the commercial). Normally Nikon does the infotainment on that channel.

The question again: Why is the K-1 $602AUD more expensive than a Nikon D750 in Australia, while in the US, the K-1 is cheaper than a Nikon D750 ?

(Answer = Rip-off)

Pentax is Doomed ! (now I'M one of those "Pentax is doomed" caption writers)

That is easy zoolander. The nikon stock in australia would have been shipped and priced before the bottom dropped out of the Aussie dollar. Aussies are simply getting better value on anything imported before the dollar fell.
Price of K1 is fair, $1796/0.71c plus 10% GST = $2782. $100 difference to US before shipping and including local warranty. Same price as US seems fair to me.
Aussies are getting D750 for equivalent of US$1490, so it would be the US Nikon consumers being ripped off if it wasn't for the currency changes mentioned above.

Last edited by robjmitchell; 02-26-2016 at 09:09 PM.

afan137 · 02-27-2016, 12:24 AM - **1 Like**

It is not start selling, but K-1 already no. 8. I think the pre-order is really high: http://kakaku.com/camera/digital-slr-camera/ranking_0049/

Matthew Saville · 02-27-2016, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by bigmackcam

...thanks for setting me straight....

CAREFUL, you might break the internet!!!!

---------- Post added 02-26-16 at 11:50 PM ----------

Originally posted by zoolander

So the K-1 is on B&H for $1796.95USD, and the Nikon D750 on B&H is $1996.95USD.

Then in Australia the Pentax K-1 has started out at $3188AUD, next to the Nikon D810 retail price of $3191AUD.

Then Pentax/Ricoh Australia dropped the price to $2899AUD, and the Nikon D750 retails for $2297AUD in Australia....
....

IMO, the answer is simple: the K-1 hasn't even hit shelves yet, and the D750 has been out for what, over a year and a half?

The stock and pace of shelf-flying-off is a known situation for the D750, so that price has stabilized at whatever the market dictates.

The K-1 hasn't even begun selling yet, or shipping. So who knows, maybe it was so popular in AUS that immediate pre-orders were through the roof, or at least sufficient to consume an entire first shipment, in which case, they can get away with waiting 6-12 months before dropping the price further.

So, if you want a K-1 but are simply miffed by the fact that it currently costs more than a D750, ...wait six months?

Simen1 · 02-27-2016, 01:38 AM

In Norway the D750 costed 18989 at introduction and was down to 16993 on black friday, and is currently at 18488 NOK. The K-1 is 19994 NOK, more then the D750 ever have been. The dollar have been very expensive here lately, but the 19994 NOK price is only 2,4% more then the American 1799 $price + 25% vat (19531 NOK).

**Digitalis** · 02-27-2016, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

It's all rumors. No one really knows.

All I know is this: the FA limited lenses are here to stay.

**BigMackCam** · 02-27-2016, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

Not what I am saying. They could very well be selling different filters under different names.

Yes, I guess they could be - but that doesn't seem likely, somehow. I'd be surprised if the same company produced the same type of product under two brand names, using different materials, without differentiating them somehow (i.e pitching one as a premium brand, one as economy)...

Zygonyx · 02-27-2016, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

All I know is this: the FA limited lenses are here to stay.

For sure, with HD coating

afan137 · 02-27-2016, 04:31 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

For sure, with HD coating

And the red ring as it used on HD DA limited

Nicolas06 · 02-27-2016, 04:37 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

For sure, with HD coating

Honestly, I'am happy with my current version

But why not for thoses that don't have one yet

Zygonyx · 02-27-2016, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by afan137

And the red ring as it used on HD DA limited

Not so sure of that one :
No color ring for FA Ltds

**Digitalis** · 02-27-2016, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by afan137

And the red ring as it used on HD DA limited

And a removed aperture ring...

KDAFA · 02-27-2016, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

For sure, with HD coating

Personally, I've been satisfied with the performance of the current SMC coatings.

It remains to be seen whether a change of coatings will affect the rendering character of the FA Limiteds - that is a critical point.

02-27-2016, 05:00 AM	#658
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by afan137 And the red ring as it used on HD DA limited Not so sure of that one : No color ring for FA Ltds Last edited by Zygonyx; 02-27-2016 at 05:21 AM.

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02-26-2016, 05:37 PM	#646
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by BigMackCam I don't believe Kenko and Hoya filters are using the same materials or production line. The reason I say this - in the past 2 years I've had three Kenko UV filters that affected captured images in the same way (adding feint but noticeable diagonal lines in bokeh areas). Conversely, after testing a number of other UV filters from Tiffen, Hoya, Kood and several lesser brands, I've found Hoya HMC to be consistently good performers; not ONE of them has shown any image degradation at 1:1 magnification. Whilst hardly a scientific or conclusive test, I can only surmise that Kenko and Hoya filters are not equivalent... Not what I am saying. They could very well be selling different filters under different names.

02-26-2016, 08:27 PM - 1 Like	#647
zoolander Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Gold Coast Photos: Albums Posts: 351	So the K-1 is on B&H for $1796.95USD, and the Nikon D750 on B&H is $1996.95USD. Then in Australia the Pentax K-1 has started out at $3188AUD, next to the Nikon D810 retail price of $3191AUD. Then Pentax/Ricoh Australia dropped the price to $2899AUD, and the Nikon D750 retails for $2297AUD in Australia. Can someone explain why a Pentax K-1 is cheaper than a Nikon D750 in the US, but in Australia the K-1 is $602 more expensive than a Nikon D750. Please don't answer by implying that I'm poor and can't afford one, or there's the pre-order price versus the retail price yadda yadda yadda. Or the US market is the premier market with millions of people in it, the Euro zone is similar in size, and the Asian market might be too. (Its not a trick question, what I think is the answer will be written below) I actually had no interest in getting a K-1, and have been really happy with my K-3. When I saw the US price I was expecting something similar here in Australia, and I thought maybe I'll give it a go. But no, they jacked up the price into the clouds here in Australia. Its funny how everyone was ticked off how Pentax never released a full frame camera etc etc. They were ticked off how they haven't got an upgrade path, and some of them were really outraged at that, and shook their fists at Pentax. The full frame is here, and I might be one of the first to be shaking my fist at Pentax Australia. I mean really, I never thought I'd use this expression, but Pentax is really doomed here in Australia. At least Pentax USA has given customers a real good incentive to buy a K-1 over a D750, and Pentax might gain a real foot hold in the US. But in Australia, there's no chance ....... the cameras are gone from the shelves, and most camera stores can't even be bothered to stock Pentax. The only piece of advertising I've seen from Pentax was an infotainment commercial for the Pentax K-50 a few weeks ago. I sat there and watched the whole half hour of it for fun. I was actually excited to see Pentax advertised on TV ! I'm guessing that CRK was over-stocked on K- 50's, (I think they sold 3 during the commercial). Normally Nikon does the infotainment on that channel. The question again: Why is the K-1 $602AUD more expensive than a Nikon D750 in Australia, while in the US, the K-1 is cheaper than a Nikon D750 ? (Answer = Rip-off) Pentax is Doomed ! (now I'M one of those "Pentax is doomed" caption writers)

02-26-2016, 08:47 PM	#648
Dave L Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 306	K-1 is £200 (AUD400) more expensive than D750 in the UK. All markets are different and there's not a lot any of us can do about it really... and K-1 is new but D750 isn't so the difference in UK and Oz will narrow in time, perhaps even reverse.

02-26-2016, 08:57 PM - 3 Likes	#649
robjmitchell Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Aus Posts: 1,776	Originally posted by zoolander So the K-1 is on B&H for $1796.95USD, and the Nikon D750 on B&H is $1996.95USD. Then in Australia the Pentax K-1 has started out at $3188AUD, next to the Nikon D810 retail price of $3191AUD. Then Pentax/Ricoh Australia dropped the price to $2899AUD, and the Nikon D750 retails for $2297AUD in Australia. Can someone explain why a Pentax K-1 is cheaper than a Nikon D750 in the US, but in Australia the K-1 is $602 more expensive than a Nikon D750. Please don't answer by implying that I'm poor and can't afford one, or there's the pre-order price versus the retail price yadda yadda yadda. Or the US market is the premier market with millions of people in it, the Euro zone is similar in size, and the Asian market might be too. (Its not a trick question, what I think is the answer will be written below) I actually had no interest in getting a K-1, and have been really happy with my K-3. When I saw the US price I was expecting something similar here in Australia, and I thought maybe I'll give it a go. But no, they jacked up the price into the clouds here in Australia. Its funny how everyone was ticked off how Pentax never released a full frame camera etc etc. They were ticked off how they haven't got an upgrade path, and some of them were really outraged at that, and shook their fists at Pentax. The full frame is here, and I might be one of the first to be shaking my fist at Pentax Australia. I mean really, I never thought I'd use this expression, but Pentax is really doomed here in Australia. At least Pentax USA has given customers a real good incentive to buy a K-1 over a D750, and Pentax might gain a real foot hold in the US. But in Australia, there's no chance ....... the cameras are gone from the shelves, and most camera stores can't even be bothered to stock Pentax. The only piece of advertising I've seen from Pentax was an infotainment commercial for the Pentax K-50 a few weeks ago. I sat there and watched the whole half hour of it for fun. I was actually excited to see Pentax advertised on TV ! I'm guessing that CRK was over-stocked on K- 50's, (I think they sold 3 during the commercial). Normally Nikon does the infotainment on that channel. The question again: Why is the K-1 $602AUD more expensive than a Nikon D750 in Australia, while in the US, the K-1 is cheaper than a Nikon D750 ? (Answer = Rip-off) Pentax is Doomed ! (now I'M one of those "Pentax is doomed" caption writers) That is easy zoolander. The nikon stock in australia would have been shipped and priced before the bottom dropped out of the Aussie dollar. Aussies are simply getting better value on anything imported before the dollar fell. Price of K1 is fair, $1796/0.71c plus 10% GST = $2782. $100 difference to US before shipping and including local warranty. Same price as US seems fair to me. Aussies are getting D750 for equivalent of US$1490, so it would be the US Nikon consumers being ripped off if it wasn't for the currency changes mentioned above. Last edited by robjmitchell; 02-26-2016 at 09:09 PM.

02-27-2016, 12:24 AM - 1 Like	#650
afan137 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kyoto Posts: 158	It is not start selling, but K-1 already no. 8. I think the pre-order is really high: http://kakaku.com/camera/digital-slr-camera/ranking_0049/

02-27-2016, 12:39 AM	#651
Matthew Saville Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern California Posts: 250	Originally posted by bigmackcam ...thanks for setting me straight.... CAREFUL, you might break the internet!!!! ---------- Post added 02-26-16 at 11:50 PM ---------- Originally posted by zoolander So the K-1 is on B&H for $1796.95USD, and the Nikon D750 on B&H is $1996.95USD. Then in Australia the Pentax K-1 has started out at $3188AUD, next to the Nikon D810 retail price of $3191AUD. Then Pentax/Ricoh Australia dropped the price to $2899AUD, and the Nikon D750 retails for $2297AUD in Australia.... .... IMO, the answer is simple: the K-1 hasn't even hit shelves yet, and the D750 has been out for what, over a year and a half? The stock and pace of shelf-flying-off is a known situation for the D750, so that price has stabilized at whatever the market dictates. The K-1 hasn't even begun selling yet, or shipping. So who knows, maybe it was so popular in AUS that immediate pre-orders were through the roof, or at least sufficient to consume an entire first shipment, in which case, they can get away with waiting 6-12 months before dropping the price further. So, if you want a K-1 but are simply miffed by the fact that it currently costs more than a D750, ...wait six months?

02-27-2016, 01:38 AM	#652
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	In Norway the D750 costed 18989 at introduction and was down to 16993 on black friday, and is currently at 18488 NOK. The K-1 is 19994 NOK, more then the D750 ever have been. The dollar have been very expensive here lately, but the 19994 NOK price is only 2,4% more then the American 1799 $price + 25% vat (19531 NOK).

02-27-2016, 01:49 AM	#653
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by monochrome It's all rumors. No one really knows. All I know is this: the FA limited lenses are here to stay.

02-27-2016, 03:34 AM	#654
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,670	Originally posted by D1N0 Not what I am saying. They could very well be selling different filters under different names. Yes, I guess they could be - but that doesn't seem likely, somehow. I'd be surprised if the same company produced the same type of product under two brand names, using different materials, without differentiating them somehow (i.e pitching one as a premium brand, one as economy)...

02-27-2016, 04:09 AM	#655
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by Digitalis All I know is this: the FA limited lenses are here to stay. For sure, with HD coating

02-27-2016, 04:31 AM	#656
afan137 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kyoto Posts: 158	Originally posted by Zygonyx For sure, with HD coating And the red ring as it used on HD DA limited

02-27-2016, 04:37 AM	#657
Nicolas06 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 4,854	Originally posted by Zygonyx For sure, with HD coating Honestly, I'am happy with my current version But why not for thoses that don't have one yet

02-27-2016, 05:02 AM	#659
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by afan137 And the red ring as it used on HD DA limited And a removed aperture ring...

02-27-2016, 05:12 AM	#660
KDAFA Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 528	Originally posted by Zygonyx For sure, with HD coating Personally, I've been satisfied with the performance of the current SMC coatings. It remains to be seen whether a change of coatings will affect the rendering character of the FA Limiteds - that is a critical point.