Pentax K-1 Officially Announced

rawr · 05-22-2016, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Nicolas06

If you ask somebody about their PDA they will not understand you speak of their phone.

But the 'PDA' element is very much making a comeback.

When you look at the work going into AI stuff like Siri, Cortana, 'OK Google' etc in smartphones, and the use of big data web services to drive them, it all starts to look like the industry is returning to the 'personal digital assistant' concept again. PDA v2.

**BigMackCam** · 05-22-2016, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by rawr

But the 'PDA' element is very much making a comeback.

When you look at the work going into AI stuff like Siri, Cortana, 'OK Google' etc in smartphones, and the use of big data web services to drive them, it all starts to look like the industry is returning to the 'personal digital assistant' concept again. PDA v2.

Time to dig out a couple of my "old" PocketPCs and get them on eBay!!!!

Newtophotos · 05-23-2016, 05:44 AM

How likely is it that Pentax will release a bundle of the K-1 & 24-70 or K1 & 28-105 anytime soon? Maybe together they both would be a few hundred off?

**BigMackCam** · 05-23-2016, 05:48 AM

Originally posted by Newtophotos

How likely is it that Pentax will release a bundle of the K-1 & 24-70 or K1 & 28-105 anytime soon? Maybe together they both would be a few hundred off?

Given the demand for the K-1 and those lenses individually, I don't think Ricoh will see the need to offer bundles for quite a while yet. My guess would be in time for Christmas, if at all, but I can't see it happening earlier...

Mistral75 · 05-23-2016, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Given the demand for the K-1 and those lenses individually, I don't think Ricoh will see the need to offer bundles for quite a while yet. My guess would be in time for Christmas, if at all, but I can't see it happening earlier...

...and it could well differ from one country to another. In France we had bundles with K20D and DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 and even bundles with K20D plus DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 plus DA* 50-135mm f/2.8. From the K-7 onwards, we've never seen such bundles again. I don't know whether other countries were offered the same bundles or different ones.

One should also take into account the shortage in sensors caused by the earthquake in Japan and the subsequent stop of production at the Sony factory. Most Nikon and Sony rebates, ongoing or planned, were terminated or cancelled in the wake of this shortage.

Glorfindelrb · 05-23-2016, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

In France we had bundles with K20D and DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 .

And I know at least one customer who bought this as it's first DSLR

Mistral75 · 05-23-2016, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Glorfindelrb

And I know at least one customer who bought this as its first DSLR

He could have chosen a worse combo

.

And K10D (+18-55mm) + 16-50mm f/2.8 + 50-135mm f/2.8 was my first DSLR equipment too...

(after a few SLRs, I agree...)

Nicolas06 · 05-23-2016, 11:17 PM - **1 Like**

Do we really need K1 resolution? For the fun you can actually take the time to respond to this poll to find out what max size the community is actually printing !

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/32-digital-processing-software-printing/3...ting-size.html

Cynog Ap Brychan · 05-23-2016, 11:56 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Nicolas06

Do we really need K1 resolution? For the fun you can actually take the time to respond to this poll to find out what max size the community is actually printing !

It's not just about printing big. The surfeit of megapixels allows a fair degree of cropping when one can't get close enough to a subject, or one can get another photo from the original - two for the price of one. It's fun finding pictures within pictures. Here's an example (I have better ones, but I'm darned if I can find them right now). I apologise that it as taken with another brand of camera (which I bought when Pentax did not have a FF, 36 Mpx body), but it illustrates my point. At least, my granddaughter has the sense to own a Pentax!

**acoufap** · 05-24-2016, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan

It's not just about printing big. The surfeit of megapixels allows a fair degree of cropping when one can't get close enough to a subject, or one can get another photo from the original - two for the price of one. It's fun finding pictures within pictures. Here's an example (I have better ones, but I'm darned if I can find them right now). I apologise that it as taken with another brand of camera (which I bought when Pentax did not have a FF, 36 Mpx body), but it illustrates my point. At least, my granddaughter has the sense to own a Pentax!

What a nice image! - I just have to laugh with her.

Cynog Ap Brychan · 05-24-2016, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by acoufap

What a nice image! - I just have to laugh with her.

Thank you acoufap. One would have to be a very miserable soul not to smile at that photo!

Caat · 05-24-2016, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan

It's not just about printing big. The surfeit of megapixels allows a fair degree of cropping when one can't get close enough to a subject, or one can get another photo from the original - two for the price of one. It's fun finding pictures within pictures. Here's an example (I have better ones, but I'm darned if I can find them right now). I apologise that it as taken with another brand of camera (which I bought when Pentax did not have a FF, 36 Mpx body), but it illustrates my point. At least, my granddaughter has the sense to own a Pentax!

I think that is very true. I noticed that going from 6mp to 14mp to 24mp. The added versatility in this respect really allows you to considered what you've shot after you've actually shot it.

reh321 · 05-24-2016, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan

It's not just about printing big. The surfeit of megapixels allows a fair degree of cropping when one can't get close enough to a subject ...

We especially see that process when taking pictures of wildlife. I have trouble composing pictures with a long prime, so many years ago I learned to use a long zoom, centering in on the subject with a wider view and then zooming in for the actual picture. Many of those who advocate for the 36MP, or even 50MP, cameras basically skip that last step, especially when trying to follow a Bird In Flight.

**monochrome** · 05-24-2016, 10:27 AM - **1 Like**

What is this word, 'need'?

Nicolas06 · 05-24-2016, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan

It's not just about printing big. The surfeit of megapixels allows a fair degree of cropping when one can't get close enough to a subject, or one can get another photo from the original - two for the price of one. It's fun finding pictures within pictures. Here's an example (I have better ones, but I'm darned if I can find them right now). I apologise that it as taken with another brand of camera (which I bought when Pentax did not have a FF, 36 Mpx body), but it illustrates my point. At least, my granddaughter has the sense to own a Pentax!

Quite true, and for me I discovered that with K3, the lens rather than the camera being a limitation. If I do that with FA77 (f/2.5+) or DA35ltd, 50-135 or a FA50 (f/4+) then I can do significant crop and still get good enough picture for significant print size. If I do the same with DA15 or DA21 or 55-300, that's more tricky.

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05-22-2016, 02:36 PM	#1501
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Nicolas06 If you ask somebody about their PDA they will not understand you speak of their phone. But the 'PDA' element is very much making a comeback. When you look at the work going into AI stuff like Siri, Cortana, 'OK Google' etc in smartphones, and the use of big data web services to drive them, it all starts to look like the industry is returning to the 'personal digital assistant' concept again. PDA v2.

05-22-2016, 02:39 PM	#1502
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,670	Originally posted by rawr But the 'PDA' element is very much making a comeback. When you look at the work going into AI stuff like Siri, Cortana, 'OK Google' etc in smartphones, and the use of big data web services to drive them, it all starts to look like the industry is returning to the 'personal digital assistant' concept again. PDA v2. Time to dig out a couple of my "old" PocketPCs and get them on eBay!!!!

05-23-2016, 05:44 AM	#1503
Newtophotos Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 439	How likely is it that Pentax will release a bundle of the K-1 & 24-70 or K1 & 28-105 anytime soon? Maybe together they both would be a few hundred off?

05-23-2016, 05:48 AM	#1504
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,670	Originally posted by Newtophotos How likely is it that Pentax will release a bundle of the K-1 & 24-70 or K1 & 28-105 anytime soon? Maybe together they both would be a few hundred off? Given the demand for the K-1 and those lenses individually, I don't think Ricoh will see the need to offer bundles for quite a while yet. My guess would be in time for Christmas, if at all, but I can't see it happening earlier...

05-23-2016, 07:57 AM	#1505
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by BigMackCam Given the demand for the K-1 and those lenses individually, I don't think Ricoh will see the need to offer bundles for quite a while yet. My guess would be in time for Christmas, if at all, but I can't see it happening earlier... ...and it could well differ from one country to another. In France we had bundles with K20D and DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 and even bundles with K20D plus DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 plus DA* 50-135mm f/2.8. From the K-7 onwards, we've never seen such bundles again. I don't know whether other countries were offered the same bundles or different ones. One should also take into account the shortage in sensors caused by the earthquake in Japan and the subsequent stop of production at the Sony factory. Most Nikon and Sony rebates, ongoing or planned, were terminated or cancelled in the wake of this shortage.

05-23-2016, 08:55 AM	#1506
Glorfindelrb Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 364	Originally posted by Mistral75 In France we had bundles with K20D and DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 . And I know at least one customer who bought this as it's first DSLR

05-23-2016, 10:45 AM	#1507
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Glorfindelrb And I know at least one customer who bought this as its first DSLR He could have chosen a worse combo . And K10D (+18-55mm) + 16-50mm f/2.8 + 50-135mm f/2.8 was my first DSLR equipment too... (after a few SLRs, I agree...)

05-23-2016, 11:17 PM - 1 Like	#1508
Nicolas06 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 4,854	Do we really need K1 resolution? For the fun you can actually take the time to respond to this poll to find out what max size the community is actually printing ! https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/32-digital-processing-software-printing/3...ting-size.html

05-24-2016, 12:49 AM	#1510
acoufap Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Munich, Germany Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,187	Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan It's not just about printing big. The surfeit of megapixels allows a fair degree of cropping when one can't get close enough to a subject, or one can get another photo from the original - two for the price of one. It's fun finding pictures within pictures. Here's an example (I have better ones, but I'm darned if I can find them right now). I apologise that it as taken with another brand of camera (which I bought when Pentax did not have a FF, 36 Mpx body), but it illustrates my point. At least, my granddaughter has the sense to own a Pentax! What a nice image! - I just have to laugh with her.

05-24-2016, 02:00 AM	#1511
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by acoufap What a nice image! - I just have to laugh with her. Thank you acoufap. One would have to be a very miserable soul not to smile at that photo!

05-24-2016, 09:39 AM	#1512
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan It's not just about printing big. The surfeit of megapixels allows a fair degree of cropping when one can't get close enough to a subject, or one can get another photo from the original - two for the price of one. It's fun finding pictures within pictures. Here's an example (I have better ones, but I'm darned if I can find them right now). I apologise that it as taken with another brand of camera (which I bought when Pentax did not have a FF, 36 Mpx body), but it illustrates my point. At least, my granddaughter has the sense to own a Pentax! I think that is very true. I noticed that going from 6mp to 14mp to 24mp. The added versatility in this respect really allows you to considered what you've shot after you've actually shot it.

05-24-2016, 10:18 AM	#1513
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan It's not just about printing big. The surfeit of megapixels allows a fair degree of cropping when one can't get close enough to a subject ... We especially see that process when taking pictures of wildlife. I have trouble composing pictures with a long prime, so many years ago I learned to use a long zoom, centering in on the subject with a wider view and then zooming in for the actual picture. Many of those who advocate for the 36MP, or even 50MP, cameras basically skip that last step, especially when trying to follow a Bird In Flight.

05-24-2016, 10:27 AM - 1 Like	#1514
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	What is this word, 'need'?

05-24-2016, 03:37 PM	#1515
Nicolas06 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 4,854	Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan It's not just about printing big. The surfeit of megapixels allows a fair degree of cropping when one can't get close enough to a subject, or one can get another photo from the original - two for the price of one. It's fun finding pictures within pictures. Here's an example (I have better ones, but I'm darned if I can find them right now). I apologise that it as taken with another brand of camera (which I bought when Pentax did not have a FF, 36 Mpx body), but it illustrates my point. At least, my granddaughter has the sense to own a Pentax! Quite true, and for me I discovered that with K3, the lens rather than the camera being a limitation. If I do that with FA77 (f/2.5+) or DA35ltd, 50-135 or a FA50 (f/4+) then I can do significant crop and still get good enough picture for significant print size. If I do the same with DA15 or DA21 or 55-300, that's more tricky.