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02-21-2016, 05:07 PM   #106
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QuoteOriginally posted by gorme Quote
The 85 f/1.8 is rumored to be priced around 1000$ ?! That's higher than the 85mm f/1.4 EX from Sigma... There are some Pentax 85mm SMC-A* and Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 available on the marketplace for less.
I agree, its crazy. They must be delusional about the value of VC or Canon/Nikon owners must be stupid, or a combination.

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I'm guessing some of these unbadged tamron designs 35mm f1.8 & 45mm f1.8)... or possibly one of them is the 85mm f1.8

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QuoteOriginally posted by Chex Quote
or possibly one of them is the 85mm f1.8
If Pentax release a new 85mm it better be a f1.4 .. i know that from 1.4 to 1.8 is a really tiny amount of light.. but.. as a markting thing.. f1.4 is much better for the brand to market.
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QuoteOriginally posted by kooks Quote
If Pentax release a new 85mm it better be a f1.4 .. i know that from 1.4 to 1.8 is a really tiny amount of light.. but.. as a markting thing.. f1.4 is much better for the brand to market.
the bokeh at f1.4 and 1.6 is different than at 1.8

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
the bokeh at f1.4 and 1.6 is different than at 1.8
true.
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Given the current cooperation between Tamron and Ricoh, there might be a possibility that the new Tamron 85/1,8 comes in K-mount too (or there could be a rebadged Pentax version).
On the other hand introducing a 85mm f1,8 lens when there is 77mm f1,8 lens doesn┤t make much sense. Therefore I think the potential future 85mm prime will be f1,4, just to be more different from FA77/1,8.
I think it has been mentioned already but the new K-mount roadmap will be presented at CP+ in a couple of days, so we will soon know more.
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QuoteOriginally posted by iudex Quote
Therefore I think the potential future 85mm prime will be f1,4
It could also be f/1.2....
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It could also be f/1.2....
Theoreticaly, yes, but I doubt it. F1,4 lens for fullframe is already big and to gain another 1/2 EV of speed would require bigger elements, making the lens huge and expensive.

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QuoteOriginally posted by iudex Quote
Theoreticaly, yes, but I doubt it. F1,4 lens for fullframe is already big and to gain another 1/2 EV of speed would require bigger elements, making the lens huge and expensive.
True, but it would put Pentax in a unique position, the only other player competing in the 85mm market with an f/1.2 offering besides Canon.
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If I remember correct it would also be the worlds first stabilized f/1,2 lens with AF.

Edit: Maybe except some tiny sensor video cameras?

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QuoteOriginally posted by iudex Quote
Given the current cooperation between Tamron and Ricoh, there might be a possibility that the new Tamron 85/1,8 comes in K-mount too
Well my question has already been answered: Dpreview says "They'll be available for Canon, Nikon and (eventually) Sony Alpha mounts."
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I am holding out in hope that the smaller of the two on the right is an update to the DFA50/2.8 macro with WR & DC. This is an optical beauty crying out for a body makeover. The larger on the left has the distinctive stumpy fastish 85 look.
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They need a fast wide angle, so I'm guessing at something like a new FA*24mm f/2.0. It would be a good match to the 31mm.
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Fast wide angle prime lens is one Pentax loopholes. I hope to see this on the next roadmap
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QuoteOriginally posted by DagT Quote
They need a fast wide angle, so I'm guessing at something like a new FA*24mm f/2.0. It would be a good match to the 31mm.
Exactly. 24mm or wider, maybe 20mm. And it does not need to be super fast, f2-f2,8 is completey OK (to keep price and weight down).
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