Mystery Lenses in Pentax Interview??

Simen1 · 02-21-2016, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by gorme

The 85 f/1.8 is rumored to be priced around 1000$ ?! That's higher than the 85mm f/1.4 EX from Sigma... There are some Pentax 85mm SMC-A* and Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 available on the marketplace for less.

I agree, its crazy. They must be delusional about the value of VC or Canon/Nikon owners must be stupid, or a combination.

Chex · 02-22-2016, 12:12 AM

I'm guessing some of these unbadged tamron designs 35mm f1.8 & 45mm f1.8)... or possibly one of them is the 85mm f1.8

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uac...56211280129175

kooks · 02-22-2016, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by Chex

or possibly one of them is the 85mm f1.8

If Pentax release a new 85mm it better be a f1.4 .. i know that from 1.4 to 1.8 is a really tiny amount of light.. but.. as a markting thing.. f1.4 is much better for the brand to market.

ogl · 02-22-2016, 12:54 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kooks

If Pentax release a new 85mm it better be a f1.4 .. i know that from 1.4 to 1.8 is a really tiny amount of light.. but.. as a markting thing.. f1.4 is much better for the brand to market.

the bokeh at f1.4 and 1.6 is different than at 1.8

kooks · 02-22-2016, 01:07 AM

Originally posted by ogl

the bokeh at f1.4 and 1.6 is different than at 1.8

true.

iudex · 02-22-2016, 01:18 AM

Given the current cooperation between Tamron and Ricoh, there might be a possibility that the new Tamron 85/1,8 comes in K-mount too (or there could be a rebadged Pentax version).
On the other hand introducing a 85mm f1,8 lens when there is 77mm f1,8 lens doesn´t make much sense. Therefore I think the potential future 85mm prime will be f1,4, just to be more different from FA77/1,8.
I think it has been mentioned already but the new K-mount roadmap will be presented at CP+ in a couple of days, so we will soon know more.

**Digitalis** · 02-22-2016, 01:28 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by iudex

Therefore I think the potential future 85mm prime will be f1,4

It could also be f/1.2....

iudex · 02-22-2016, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

It could also be f/1.2....

Theoreticaly, yes, but I doubt it. F1,4 lens for fullframe is already big and to gain another 1/2 EV of speed would require bigger elements, making the lens huge and expensive.

**Digitalis** · 02-22-2016, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by iudex

Theoreticaly, yes, but I doubt it. F1,4 lens for fullframe is already big and to gain another 1/2 EV of speed would require bigger elements, making the lens huge and expensive.

True, but it would put Pentax in a unique position, the only other player competing in the 85mm market with an f/1.2 offering besides Canon.

Simen1 · 02-22-2016, 03:07 AM

If I remember correct it would also be the worlds first stabilized f/1,2 lens with AF.

Edit: Maybe except some tiny sensor video cameras?

iudex · 02-22-2016, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by iudex

Given the current cooperation between Tamron and Ricoh, there might be a possibility that the new Tamron 85/1,8 comes in K-mount too

Well my question has already been answered: Dpreview says "They'll be available for Canon, Nikon and (eventually) Sony Alpha mounts."

**robbiec** · 02-22-2016, 05:30 AM

I am holding out in hope that the smaller of the two on the right is an update to the DFA50/2.8 macro with WR & DC. This is an optical beauty crying out for a body makeover. The larger on the left has the distinctive stumpy fastish 85 look.

DagT · 02-22-2016, 06:11 AM

They need a fast wide angle, so I'm guessing at something like a new FA*24mm f/2.0. It would be a good match to the 31mm.

wed7 · 02-22-2016, 06:26 AM

Fast wide angle prime lens is one Pentax loopholes. I hope to see this on the next roadmap

iudex · 02-22-2016, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by DagT

They need a fast wide angle, so I'm guessing at something like a new FA*24mm f/2.0. It would be a good match to the 31mm.

Exactly. 24mm or wider, maybe 20mm. And it does not need to be super fast, f2-f2,8 is completey OK (to keep price and weight down).

02-22-2016, 03:07 AM	#115
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	If I remember correct it would also be the worlds first stabilized f/1,2 lens with AF. Edit: Maybe except some tiny sensor video cameras? Last edited by Simen1; 02-22-2016 at 03:17 AM.

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02-21-2016, 05:07 PM	#106
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	Originally posted by gorme The 85 f/1.8 is rumored to be priced around 1000$ ?! That's higher than the 85mm f/1.4 EX from Sigma... There are some Pentax 85mm SMC-A* and Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 available on the marketplace for less. I agree, its crazy. They must be delusional about the value of VC or Canon/Nikon owners must be stupid, or a combination.

02-22-2016, 12:12 AM	#107
Chex Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The 'Stoke, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,678	I'm guessing some of these unbadged tamron designs 35mm f1.8 & 45mm f1.8)... or possibly one of them is the 85mm f1.8 https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uac...56211280129175

02-22-2016, 12:21 AM	#108
kooks Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San José, Costa Rica Photos: Albums Posts: 794	Originally posted by Chex or possibly one of them is the 85mm f1.8 If Pentax release a new 85mm it better be a f1.4 .. i know that from 1.4 to 1.8 is a really tiny amount of light.. but.. as a markting thing.. f1.4 is much better for the brand to market.

02-22-2016, 12:54 AM - 1 Like	#109
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by kooks If Pentax release a new 85mm it better be a f1.4 .. i know that from 1.4 to 1.8 is a really tiny amount of light.. but.. as a markting thing.. f1.4 is much better for the brand to market. the bokeh at f1.4 and 1.6 is different than at 1.8

02-22-2016, 01:07 AM	#110
kooks Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San José, Costa Rica Photos: Albums Posts: 794	Originally posted by ogl the bokeh at f1.4 and 1.6 is different than at 1.8 true.

02-22-2016, 01:18 AM	#111
iudex Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 87	Given the current cooperation between Tamron and Ricoh, there might be a possibility that the new Tamron 85/1,8 comes in K-mount too (or there could be a rebadged Pentax version). On the other hand introducing a 85mm f1,8 lens when there is 77mm f1,8 lens doesn´t make much sense. Therefore I think the potential future 85mm prime will be f1,4, just to be more different from FA77/1,8. I think it has been mentioned already but the new K-mount roadmap will be presented at CP+ in a couple of days, so we will soon know more.

02-22-2016, 01:28 AM - 1 Like	#112
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by iudex Therefore I think the potential future 85mm prime will be f1,4 It could also be f/1.2....

02-22-2016, 01:51 AM	#113
iudex Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 87	Originally posted by Digitalis It could also be f/1.2.... Theoreticaly, yes, but I doubt it. F1,4 lens for fullframe is already big and to gain another 1/2 EV of speed would require bigger elements, making the lens huge and expensive.

02-22-2016, 01:54 AM	#114
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by iudex Theoreticaly, yes, but I doubt it. F1,4 lens for fullframe is already big and to gain another 1/2 EV of speed would require bigger elements, making the lens huge and expensive. True, but it would put Pentax in a unique position, the only other player competing in the 85mm market with an f/1.2 offering besides Canon.

02-22-2016, 05:08 AM	#116
iudex Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 87	Originally posted by iudex Given the current cooperation between Tamron and Ricoh, there might be a possibility that the new Tamron 85/1,8 comes in K-mount too Well my question has already been answered: Dpreview says "They'll be available for Canon, Nikon and (eventually) Sony Alpha mounts."

02-22-2016, 05:30 AM	#117
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	I am holding out in hope that the smaller of the two on the right is an update to the DFA50/2.8 macro with WR & DC. This is an optical beauty crying out for a body makeover. The larger on the left has the distinctive stumpy fastish 85 look.

02-22-2016, 06:11 AM	#118
DagT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oslo Posts: 110	They need a fast wide angle, so I'm guessing at something like a new FA*24mm f/2.0. It would be a good match to the 31mm.

02-22-2016, 06:26 AM	#119
wed7 Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,421	Fast wide angle prime lens is one Pentax loopholes. I hope to see this on the next roadmap

02-22-2016, 06:32 AM	#120
iudex Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 87	Originally posted by DagT They need a fast wide angle, so I'm guessing at something like a new FA*24mm f/2.0. It would be a good match to the 31mm. Exactly. 24mm or wider, maybe 20mm. And it does not need to be super fast, f2-f2,8 is completey OK (to keep price and weight down).