New lens road map

noser · 02-25-2016, 09:18 PM - **1 Like**

Now I'm going to stay up at night wondering if I can't afford the new 85mm or can't afford the new 135mm. I don't have an 85mm, so that would be a nice LBA excuse

wed7 · 02-25-2016, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Digitalis

You own a pentax Q?

Incidentally, the Nikkor f/1.8G full format lens line are very decent performers. If Pentax can come up with a 20~24mm f/1.8, 55~58mm f/1.4 and 90~105mm f/1.8 these FL would hardly affect the appeal of the FA ltds, and in fact would be complimentary to the existing limited lenses.

These suggested lenses/FLs are also welcome in apsc.

---------- Post added 02-26-2016 at 01:42 PM ----------

Originally posted by Daikokuya

It takes 1 and 3 years for Tamron's 15-30mm and 24-70mm respectively to be Pentax's after the initial models are released. It's no surprise that happens again. The reason for delay is that Pentax might want to avoid being labeled as "rebadged" when all models are announced at the same time.

No. It simply because they are Pentax, they prefer to survey, study research the market and most of all, to keep us guessing again like the K-1. Hehe

Rico · 02-25-2016, 11:30 PM

In Pentax language wouldn't Wide Angle be FA31. Standard is the FA43. Medium Tele is the FA77. These lens should be the start to create DFA WR versions I would hope.

For Ultra Wide there are a lot of lenses to start from. I like them to keep it compact so a DFA 20 2.8 WR could fit that bill.

bossa · 02-25-2016, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by Digitalis

You don't want another lens designed by Jun Hirakawa. Right, I'll forward that to Tamron.

I believe he designed the 24-70, (which I use on my D810) so, for all intents and purposes, it's a 'Pentax' lens.

I do expect the Pentax variant to have better coatings and build quality however. I love the lens, it beat my old Nikon 35/1.4 lens for my use and is almost as sharp as my Sigma 35/1.4. At 24mm it beats my Nikon 14-24 as well, but it's 'soft' at 70mm and needs to be stopped down to f/5.6 to match the sensor.

**Digitalis** · 02-25-2016, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by bossa

At 24mm it beats my Nikon 14-24

According to my MTF tests: the Tamron 15-30 f/2.8 beats the Nikkor 14-24 @ 24mm too.

Mistral75 · 02-25-2016, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by 6x7

(...)

Really? Has this been the experience?

(...)

DA* 30 mm f/1,4.

**Digitalis** · 02-25-2016, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

DA* 30 mm f/1,4.

you're referring to this:

..From the 2008 lens roadmap?

Mistral75 · 02-26-2016, 12:11 AM

Yes, from this one and may be others at that time.

**Digitalis** · 02-26-2016, 12:15 AM

If we haven't seen it by now, we most likely will never see it.

Mistral75 · 02-26-2016, 04:13 AM

Now available in Adobe PDF format:

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens/images/K_Mount_Lens.pdf

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens/images/K_Mount_D_FA_Lens_Roadmap.pdf

---------- Post added 02-26-2016 at 12:42 PM ----------

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens/images/645_Mount_Lens.pdf and

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens/images/Q_Mount_Lens.pdf

have been updated as well: "2016 or later" replaces "2015 or later"...

Pentax Q Telephoto Macro is on the roadmap since at least January 2013 ("2013 or later") and Pentax 645 "Standard Zoom" and "Tele Zoom" since at least November 2013 ("2014 or later").

**RobA_Oz** · 02-26-2016, 05:17 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Daikokuya

It takes 1 and 3 years for Tamron's 15-30mm and 24-70mm respectively to be Pentax's after the initial models are released. It's no surprise that happens again. The reason for delay is that Pentax might want to avoid being labeled as "rebadged" when all models are announced at the same time.

Originally posted by wed7

No. It simply because they are Pentax, they prefer to survey, study research the market and most of all, to keep us guessing again like the K-1. Hehe

Why would they release them before announcing the body they're intended for? You could, of course, ask the same question about the D-FA150-450, but that lens was equally useful (possibly more so) for APS-C and not competing with existing DA lenses.

Barry Pearson · 02-26-2016, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

at least it is clear they mean F1.4 By large diameter.

Are you saying they have changed their terminology since previous roadmaps?

The D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 and D FA* 70-200 f/2.8 were "Large diameter" on previous roadmaps.

Kunzite · 02-26-2016, 07:15 AM - **1 Like**

But those are zooms.

timautin · 02-26-2016, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by Barry Pearson

The D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 and D FA* 70-200 f/2.8 were "Large diameter" on previous roadmaps.

"Large diameter" may implies different f-number for zoom vs primes.

Originally posted by Mistral75

Now available in Adobe PDF format:

[...]

Thanks! It doesn't seem that the 70-200 had any external change.

**Pål Jensen** · 02-26-2016, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

You don't want another lens designed by Jun Hirakawa. Right, I'll forward that to Tamron.

I rather see a lens designed by the team behind the 31 Limited or the FA* 200/4 macro.

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02-25-2016, 09:18 PM - 1 Like	#121
noser Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Calgary, AB CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 292	Now I'm going to stay up at night wondering if I can't afford the new 85mm or can't afford the new 135mm. I don't have an 85mm, so that would be a nice LBA excuse

02-25-2016, 09:49 PM	#122
wed7 Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,421	Originally posted by Digitalis You own a pentax Q? Incidentally, the Nikkor f/1.8G full format lens line are very decent performers. If Pentax can come up with a 20~24mm f/1.8, 55~58mm f/1.4 and 90~105mm f/1.8 these FL would hardly affect the appeal of the FA ltds, and in fact would be complimentary to the existing limited lenses. These suggested lenses/FLs are also welcome in apsc. ---------- Post added 02-26-2016 at 01:42 PM ---------- Originally posted by Daikokuya It takes 1 and 3 years for Tamron's 15-30mm and 24-70mm respectively to be Pentax's after the initial models are released. It's no surprise that happens again. The reason for delay is that Pentax might want to avoid being labeled as "rebadged" when all models are announced at the same time. No. It simply because they are Pentax, they prefer to survey, study research the market and most of all, to keep us guessing again like the K-1. Hehe

02-25-2016, 11:30 PM	#123
Rico Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,205	In Pentax language wouldn't Wide Angle be FA31. Standard is the FA43. Medium Tele is the FA77. These lens should be the start to create DFA WR versions I would hope. For Ultra Wide there are a lot of lenses to start from. I like them to keep it compact so a DFA 20 2.8 WR could fit that bill.

02-25-2016, 11:49 PM	#124
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	Originally posted by Digitalis You don't want another lens designed by Jun Hirakawa. Right, I'll forward that to Tamron. I believe he designed the 24-70, (which I use on my D810) so, for all intents and purposes, it's a 'Pentax' lens. I do expect the Pentax variant to have better coatings and build quality however. I love the lens, it beat my old Nikon 35/1.4 lens for my use and is almost as sharp as my Sigma 35/1.4. At 24mm it beats my Nikon 14-24 as well, but it's 'soft' at 70mm and needs to be stopped down to f/5.6 to match the sensor.

02-25-2016, 11:53 PM	#125
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by bossa At 24mm it beats my Nikon 14-24 According to my MTF tests: the Tamron 15-30 f/2.8 beats the Nikkor 14-24 @ 24mm too.

02-25-2016, 11:56 PM	#126
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by 6x7 (...) Really? Has this been the experience? (...) DA* 30 mm f/1,4.

02-25-2016, 11:59 PM	#127
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by Mistral75 DA* 30 mm f/1,4. you're referring to this: ..From the 2008 lens roadmap?

02-26-2016, 12:11 AM	#128
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Yes, from this one and may be others at that time.

02-26-2016, 12:15 AM	#129
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	If we haven't seen it by now, we most likely will never see it.

02-26-2016, 04:13 AM	#130
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Now available in Adobe PDF format: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens/images/K_Mount_Lens.pdf http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens/images/K_Mount_D_FA_Lens_Roadmap.pdf ---------- Post added 02-26-2016 at 12:42 PM ---------- http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens/images/645_Mount_Lens.pdf and http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens/images/Q_Mount_Lens.pdf have been updated as well: "2016 or later" replaces "2015 or later"... Pentax Q Telephoto Macro is on the roadmap since at least January 2013 ("2013 or later") and Pentax 645 "Standard Zoom" and "Tele Zoom" since at least November 2013 ("2014 or later").

02-26-2016, 05:17 AM - 1 Like	#131
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by Daikokuya It takes 1 and 3 years for Tamron's 15-30mm and 24-70mm respectively to be Pentax's after the initial models are released. It's no surprise that happens again. The reason for delay is that Pentax might want to avoid being labeled as "rebadged" when all models are announced at the same time. Originally posted by wed7 No. It simply because they are Pentax, they prefer to survey, study research the market and most of all, to keep us guessing again like the K-1. Hehe Why would they release them before announcing the body they're intended for? You could, of course, ask the same question about the D-FA150-450, but that lens was equally useful (possibly more so) for APS-C and not competing with existing DA lenses.

02-26-2016, 07:06 AM	#132
Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by D1N0 at least it is clear they mean F1.4 By large diameter. Are you saying they have changed their terminology since previous roadmaps? The D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 and D FA* 70-200 f/2.8 were "Large diameter" on previous roadmaps.

02-26-2016, 07:15 AM - 1 Like	#133
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	But those are zooms.

02-26-2016, 07:16 AM	#134
timautin Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 346	Originally posted by Barry Pearson The D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 and D FA* 70-200 f/2.8 were "Large diameter" on previous roadmaps. "Large diameter" may implies different f-number for zoom vs primes. Originally posted by Mistral75 Now available in Adobe PDF format: [...] Thanks! It doesn't seem that the 70-200 had any external change.

02-26-2016, 07:41 AM	#135
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by Digitalis You don't want another lens designed by Jun Hirakawa. Right, I'll forward that to Tamron. I rather see a lens designed by the team behind the 31 Limited or the FA* 200/4 macro.