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02-27-2016, 08:29 PM - 42 Likes   #1
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My report from CP+ 2016

I went to CP+ on Saturday, so here is a report my visit. You can already see pictures of what was exhibited on other threads and websites, so I won’t waste my time repeating that. I’ll focus on my impressions and things I was told personally at the booths.

CP+ 2016
The show was bigger than in previous years. It was still in the Pacifico Yokohama exhibition centre, but they separated the photo exhibitions into a hall at the end of the remarkable new ship terminal pier in Yokohama. The building has this really complex undulating wooden decking, and even when you are in the hall, the floor just rises up like the side of a valley to meet the ceiling. Even in the absence of any exhibition, it’s worth a visit if you're in Yokohama with an interest in modern architecture.



The Ricoh booth
It was very busy compared to previous years. Of course, there's good reason for that.
- There was very little focus on APS-C models, 645 or Q. The focus was all on the K-1 and Ricoh compacts (Theta, WG and GR).
- I tried the latest version of the VR app for the Theta. I was pretty impressed by the speed of the head tracking and the way that you could select images by looking at little photo spheres that appeared to be floating in front of you.
- They had a counter with the WG-M2. I don’t know much about this kind of camera, but it seemed a bit smaller and better made than the existing one.
- I complained last year about the lack of variety in the photography shown at Ricoh - there was too much landscape and not much else. This year there was a better variety, perhaps because the target for the K-1 is broader than the 645z. They had some large prints from the K-1 taken with the limited primes. Note that the incredibly vibrant and detailed image that Barney Britton is looking at 2:20 in this DPR video was taken with an FA43 f5.0 and showed no weakness in the corners close up. I was peering at it as closely as he was for a while.
CP+ 2016: Pentax K-1 past and present: Digital Photography Review
There was another print of similar size taken with an FA31 at f4.0 which was also very good. I think people are worrying too much about the performance of old lenses.
- They have finally made a new lens catalogue, and I picked one up. The FA 31/35/43/50/77 are still in the catalogue. It’s available from their website.
(Direct link to a 15mb file) http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/catalog/pdf/lenses_accessories.pdf



K-1
I had to wait in line to get to see the K-1, but fortunately, I was free to look at the camera for a while with the help of a very enthusiastic Ricoh rep. The DFA 28-105 was attached. Basically, it is a very impressive camera.
- Everything about the handling of the camera feels just as you’d expect from a Pentax. The new dial system on top is very easy to use. The screen may be complicated behind, but that isn't a concern for the user. It is really easy to just pull out and position it as you want, and it feels more natural than the swing-out type. The lighting is also cool. Actually, the camera didn’t feel much bigger than a K-3 to me. The shutter sound was perhaps a bit louder than a K-3, but not a horrible clattery sound.
- Pixel shift is really good. I was able to take pictures of the exhibition floor handheld, with the camera applying the pixel shift resolution enhancement to the parts that weren’t moving, while detecting the people and using the image from a single shot for those parts of the image. The rep confirmed that the SR is still active while the pixel shift is working. He said that it should be good for handheld shooting in a lot of situations as long as you keep to a relatively high shutter speed.
- I asked about the sensor and ISO performance. According to the rep, the K-1 is at ISO 12,800 like the K-5 IIs is at 3200. The base ISO is 100 and Ricoh does not offer ISO expansion. It is exactly the same part as in the D810, but Nikon uses the sensor outside the manufacturer’s recommended ISO range, while Ricoh won’t do that. The reason why the K-1 is about one stop cleaner (he had images to show this) than the D810 is Ricoh’s improved “engine”.

Third-party lenses
- I had renewed interest in the Tamron stand, because there is a chance that the lenses they have could be released as Pentax lenses. I thought the 85mm f1.8 was a nice product. It seems to have plenty of subject isolation while still being small and light. I asked whether Tamron would make these in Pentax mount and the response what they are “calculating”, which I interpret to mean they are considering whether they could make money on it.
- At Sigma, I tried to ask how they decide whether to release lenses in K-mount, and pointed out that they had released the 35mm f1.4 in K-mount while Pentax had a number of 35mm lenses, but they haven’t released the wide angles that are missing in the Pentax line-up. The rep I spoke to just said that there were no immediate plans to release the new lenses in K-mount. On the subject of the 50-100 f1.8, I tried that out on a Sigma SD1 DSLR. It is huge, but not quite as heavy as I’d feared. The focusing was horrible, but I’m not sure if that’s a lens thing or the body. I was left rather unimpressed with the fast zooms. They don’t actually zoom much, so they seem to me like an awkward compromise between the convenience of a zoom and the quality of a prime.
- I asked Cosina and Kenko-Tokina about K-mount, but unfortunately they seem to have no interest at the moment.

Other Brands
I had a quick look at the other booths, but I have limited interest in the big cameras. I’m considering other brands for a small camera to take with me on business trips.
- Sigma Quattro - I looked at this, because it is somewhat similar in concept to the K-01. It looks like a very serious camera. It’s bigger than I thought, but that is probably for the best given how huge Sigma lenses are. As usual, the prints from Foveon looked excellent.
- Nikon DL compacts - I wanted to try these but I would have had to queue for a long time, so I gave up. I’m quite interested in the wide one. I was able to see some large prints from the cameras that satisfied me that they are very capable. I’d be even more interested if I could get one that handled like a GR.
- Canon G7X Mark II - Something about the way this feels was a lot nicer than the mark one. It’s really dense and has nice controls. It’s on my shortlist when the price comes down.


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02-27-2016, 08:34 PM   #2
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A very nice, succinct report. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with us.
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Thanks for sharing your nice report with us....
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Thanks for the report. Nice to hear that the sensor is the same as D810.

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Thanks..this is good the K-1 is at ISO 12,800 like the K-5 IIs is at 3200 so 6400 should be very useable then and 3200 very clean
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Is there an English version of the catalogue?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Digitalis Quote
Is there an English version of the catalogue?
I was wondering the same thing.
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Thanks for taking the time to write up the report.

Your report is really helpful for those of us not able to get to CP+.

The K-1 sounds very promising.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Digitalis Quote
Is there an English version of the catalogue?
I have been looking on the Ricoh website a few minutes ago - the answer is no, just in Japanese at this stage

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"Improved engine" sounds scary, are they messing with noise reduction on the raw files?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Gimbal Quote
"Improved engine" sounds scary, are they messing with noise reduction on the raw files?
I would say more likely to be just getting the very best out of the image sensor as they have consistently done over the past few years - when compared with some of their competitors
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QuoteOriginally posted by JPT Quote
the K-1 is at ISO 12,800 like the K-5 IIs is at 3200
That's what I've been waiting to hear!
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QuoteOriginally posted by NZ_Ross Quote
I have been looking on the Ricoh website a few minutes ago - the answer is no, just in Japanese at this stage
I was hoping there is one, but hopefully it will come eventually.

I saw in some K-1 hands on videos at CP+ people were given a K-1 brochure too, is there an English one for that online?

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Thank you for the report, very helpful and informative.

Very good to hear the ISO performance of the K-1 at ISO at 12,800 is like the K-5 IIs is at 3200, now let's see how this will actually turn out when the real thing lands.

I know this might be much of an ask; did you get to test the AF performance in turns of AF speed, accuracy and continuous tracking?
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QuoteQuote:
- Pixel shift is really good. I was able to take pictures of the exhibition floor handheld, with the camera applying the pixel shift resolution enhancement to the parts that weren’t moving, while detecting the people and using the image from a single shot for those parts of the image. The rep confirmed that the SR is still active while the pixel shift is working. He said that it should be good for handheld shooting in a lot of situations as long as you keep to a relatively high shutter speed.
Thanks for this - as there has been very little in the way of additional information on SR improvements.

QuoteQuote:
- I asked about the sensor and ISO performance. According to the rep, the K-1 is at ISO 12,800 like the K-5 IIs is at 3200. The base ISO is 100 and Ricoh does not offer ISO expansion. It is exactly the same part as in the D810, but Nikon uses the sensor outside the manufacturer’s recommended ISO range, while Ricoh won’t do that. The reason why the K-1 is about one stop cleaner (he had images to show this) than the D810 is Ricoh’s improved “engine”.
Again, new information that I had not read anywhere else!

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Thank you, JPT, for the very informative report. I have a Pentax K-5iis and am very happy with its quiet shutter. I tried a Nikon D810 in a camera store and found its shutter to be at about the same level of quietness. I do not have a Pentax K-3, nor have I heard the shutter in that camera, so when you say that the K-1 shutter is a bit louder than the K-3, could you also let us know how much louder it would be than the Pentax K-5iis or the Nikon D810? I will be buying the K-1 for low-light, interior photos, often where no flash is allowed. A quiet camera is essential, in order not to disturb the proceedings. I don't suppose you had a chance to try a screw-driven lens like the FA77 Ltd on the K-1? Is that any quieter than the K-3 or K-5iis? Any extra information would help us all. Many thanks.
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Thanks a lot for the report, that's enlightening.
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