Ricoh want's to go mirrorless? With X-mount/Fujifilm? at least 2 years away.

D1N0 · 03-08-2016, 12:25 PM - **1 Like**

http://pentaxrumors.com/2016/03/08/rumors-ricoh-wants-to-enter-the-mirrorles...-camera-market

Maybe just one of those rumors... But it would make sense. Like Oly and Panasonic share a mount.

clockworkrat · 03-08-2016, 12:30 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by D1N0

Rumors: Ricoh Wants To Enter The Mirrorless Interchangeable Camera Market | Pentax Rumors

Maybe just one of those rumors... But it would make sense. Like Oly and Panasonic share a mount.

I'd genuinely be interested in a resurrected GXR system. So much potential there.

surfar · 03-08-2016, 12:33 PM

Probably a good idea seeing Fuji are Apsc orientated, will Fuji become doomed too?

**boriscleto** · 03-08-2016, 12:39 PM - **3 Likes**

Ricoh is in the mirrorless interchangeable lens camera market. It's called the Q.

D1N0 · 03-08-2016, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Probably a good idea seeing Fuji are Apsc orientated, will Fuji become doomed too?

Originally posted by boriscleto

Ricoh is in the mirrorless interchangeable lens camera market. It's called the Q.

Maybe they will go full frame. Q is not a serious contender, it is a side dish. I wouldn't like focus by wire though.

surfar · 03-08-2016, 12:51 PM

And it would be nice to see some new Q thing come along this year, I think the talked about telephoto/macro would be a nice Xmas present.Even better would be a 4K video Q( with the S1 and 7 looking after stills)with the WG-M2 sensor.

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Yes, FF mirrorless has taken market share so Y not! But will Sony supply a sensor to someone who is looking to take revenue away?

**monochrome** · 03-08-2016, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by surfar

And it would be nice to see some new Q thing come along this year, I think the talked about telephoto/macro would be a nice Xmas present.Even better would be a 4K video Q( with the S1 and 7 looking after stills)with the WG-M2 sensor.

---------- Post added 03-09-16 at 06:55 AM ----------

Yes, FF mirrorless has taken market share so Y not! But will Sony supply a sensor to someone who is looking to take revenue away?

Sony will sell sensors to anyone whose check will clear. The entire company was reorganized around sensors.

surfar · 03-08-2016, 12:59 PM

Does anyone know the source of the WG-M2 sensor?

Shodra · 03-08-2016, 01:02 PM

The only way I see it working out is Ricoh developing and supporting a fully functional K to X-FF adapter to bridge the lack of lenses when Fuji goes FF. But then what is the long run gain for Ricoh? Now that they launched K mount FF and are pushing it quite a bit with lenses and making all these implicit commitments to keep developing the system, they are stuck at a large flange distance mount just as much as Canon and Nikon are.

Develop a complete lens lineup for K FF over the next few years and then jump ship in a coordinated manner?

On the bright side, an XTrans Q and a 645/67 ML would be very interesting. That would be my plan: Mirrorless MF. MF is where the mirror starts getting big enough to really get in the way, and you don't need the fastest EVF, nobody shoot sports on any kind of 67 anyway.

**LaurenOE** · 03-08-2016, 01:02 PM

Good for Ricoh.
I never liked the GXR concept, but if the mirrorless they produce has video specs on par with the A7S or other Sony's, then by all means.

**MJSfoto1956** · 03-08-2016, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

Maybe they will go full frame.

That was my thought too -- anyone wanting to go FF mirrorless that isn't already there (e.g. Fuji, Olympus, Pentax, Nikon, Canon) would be wise to partner and standardize on a common FF mirrorless mount. Sony has shown that the FF mirrorless market is real. My daughter (a pro based in California) says that pretty much all the lifestyle photographers on the west coast are using Sony these days -- especially with Canon lenses!

Michael

kooks · 03-08-2016, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

Ricoh is in the mirrorless interchangeable lens camera market. It's called the Q.

To be honest.. the Q system is not enough to really get into the mirrorless market, working with Fuji sonds IMO great.. hopefully it can be done.

**boriscleto** · 03-08-2016, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by kooks

To be honest.. the Q system is not enough to really get into the mirrorless market, working with Fuji sonds IMO great.. hopefully it can be done.

It's a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera. Therefore, they are in the mirrorless interchangeable lens market. They might not have a big slice of it, but they have a slice. It's already a crowded market, one that Samsung has already failed in.

surfar · 03-08-2016, 01:25 PM

Yes, the Qs are a niche, Qute and Quddly but there is a gap in the Ricoh/Pentax lineup Co development can halve the cost and blend the tech but we can only wait(like the FFrame desireers did!)

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Samsung failed?....nobody knows whats going on there at this stage.The NX line is developed very well, time will tell ???

thibs · 03-08-2016, 01:40 PM

Mmm they stated a couple years ago that mirrorless was OK up to APS, not bigger.
But that was a couple years ago and maybe that was conditionned by EVF tech of that era (still absurdly bad IMO but that's me).

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03-08-2016, 12:30 PM - 2 Likes	#2
clockworkrat Veteran Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Black Isle, Scotland Posts: 405	Originally posted by D1N0 Rumors: Ricoh Wants To Enter The Mirrorless Interchangeable Camera Market \| Pentax Rumors Maybe just one of those rumors... But it would make sense. Like Oly and Panasonic share a mount. I'd genuinely be interested in a resurrected GXR system. So much potential there.

03-08-2016, 12:33 PM	#3
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Probably a good idea seeing Fuji are Apsc orientated, will Fuji become doomed too?

03-08-2016, 12:39 PM - 3 Likes	#4
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Ricoh is in the mirrorless interchangeable lens camera market. It's called the Q.

03-08-2016, 12:43 PM	#5
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802 Original Poster	Originally posted by surfar Probably a good idea seeing Fuji are Apsc orientated, will Fuji become doomed too? Originally posted by boriscleto Ricoh is in the mirrorless interchangeable lens camera market. It's called the Q. Maybe they will go full frame. Q is not a serious contender, it is a side dish. I wouldn't like focus by wire though.

03-08-2016, 12:51 PM	#6
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	And it would be nice to see some new Q thing come along this year, I think the talked about telephoto/macro would be a nice Xmas present.Even better would be a 4K video Q( with the S1 and 7 looking after stills)with the WG-M2 sensor. ---------- Post added 03-09-16 at 06:55 AM ---------- Yes, FF mirrorless has taken market share so Y not! But will Sony supply a sensor to someone who is looking to take revenue away?

03-08-2016, 12:57 PM	#7
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by surfar And it would be nice to see some new Q thing come along this year, I think the talked about telephoto/macro would be a nice Xmas present.Even better would be a 4K video Q( with the S1 and 7 looking after stills)with the WG-M2 sensor. ---------- Post added 03-09-16 at 06:55 AM ---------- Yes, FF mirrorless has taken market share so Y not! But will Sony supply a sensor to someone who is looking to take revenue away? Sony will sell sensors to anyone whose check will clear. The entire company was reorganized around sensors.

03-08-2016, 12:59 PM	#8
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Does anyone know the source of the WG-M2 sensor?

03-08-2016, 01:02 PM	#9
Shodra New Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 8	The only way I see it working out is Ricoh developing and supporting a fully functional K to X-FF adapter to bridge the lack of lenses when Fuji goes FF. But then what is the long run gain for Ricoh? Now that they launched K mount FF and are pushing it quite a bit with lenses and making all these implicit commitments to keep developing the system, they are stuck at a large flange distance mount just as much as Canon and Nikon are. Develop a complete lens lineup for K FF over the next few years and then jump ship in a coordinated manner? On the bright side, an XTrans Q and a 645/67 ML would be very interesting. That would be my plan: Mirrorless MF. MF is where the mirror starts getting big enough to really get in the way, and you don't need the fastest EVF, nobody shoot sports on any kind of 67 anyway.

03-08-2016, 01:02 PM	#10
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	Good for Ricoh. I never liked the GXR concept, but if the mirrorless they produce has video specs on par with the A7S or other Sony's, then by all means.

03-08-2016, 01:16 PM	#11
MJSfoto1956 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Boston Posts: 1,305	Originally posted by D1N0 Maybe they will go full frame. That was my thought too -- anyone wanting to go FF mirrorless that isn't already there (e.g. Fuji, Olympus, Pentax, Nikon, Canon) would be wise to partner and standardize on a common FF mirrorless mount. Sony has shown that the FF mirrorless market is real. My daughter (a pro based in California) says that pretty much all the lifestyle photographers on the west coast are using Sony these days -- especially with Canon lenses! Michael

03-08-2016, 01:18 PM	#12
kooks Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San José, Costa Rica Photos: Albums Posts: 794	Originally posted by boriscleto Ricoh is in the mirrorless interchangeable lens camera market. It's called the Q. To be honest.. the Q system is not enough to really get into the mirrorless market, working with Fuji sonds IMO great.. hopefully it can be done.

03-08-2016, 01:25 PM	#13
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by kooks To be honest.. the Q system is not enough to really get into the mirrorless market, working with Fuji sonds IMO great.. hopefully it can be done. It's a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera. Therefore, they are in the mirrorless interchangeable lens market. They might not have a big slice of it, but they have a slice. It's already a crowded market, one that Samsung has already failed in.

03-08-2016, 01:25 PM	#14
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Yes, the Qs are a niche, Qute and Quddly but there is a gap in the Ricoh/Pentax lineup Co development can halve the cost and blend the tech but we can only wait(like the FFrame desireers did!) ---------- Post added 03-09-16 at 07:29 AM ---------- Samsung failed?....nobody knows whats going on there at this stage.The NX line is developed very well, time will tell ???

03-08-2016, 01:40 PM	#15
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Mmm they stated a couple years ago that mirrorless was OK up to APS, not bigger. But that was a couple years ago and maybe that was conditionned by EVF tech of that era (still absurdly bad IMO but that's me).