New 645Z with 100MP sensor?

ogl · 05-15-2016, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

After a long break, the Ricoh, finally, plans to announce a successor to the 645D medium format. The new model is rumored to get the name of Pentax 645D II.

Then what is the 645Z

It's just typo IMO

RonHendriks1966 · 05-15-2016, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by ogl

New rumor - 645ZII with 100 MP sensor and 4K video will be shown at Photokina, 2016.

That is possible and only 4 months waiting.

Racer X 69 · 05-15-2016, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by marmaduke

it would stand to reason that the way forward is

K1 FF 36 Mpx - 4 fps - 2K €
K1 XT FF (sports and terrain camera) 20 Mpx - 16 fps - 2K €
K3 II APS-c 24 Mpx - 8 fps 1k €
645 Z II 100 Mpx - 3 fps 7K €
K2-S 20 Mpx - 0,5K €
Q & WG 16 Mpx - 0,3K €

Don't forget that they also have binoculars and telescopes...
do check out the industrial output of ricoh, it's so much more.

the range is complete.
No other company has this reach or this offer. bar none...

It"s insane to think that a third tier company far far from close to 50 % market share of the big twin can boast this sort of feat.

A.

This.

Racer X 69 · 05-15-2016, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Let's see... since it has double the number of pixels, I would double the model name/letter (the Z part, as 645 is the mount); and it would be the top model... enter the 645ZZ Top

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

I reckon that idea's got legs.

You Tube

Racer X 69 · 05-15-2016, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

Kenesu Supooshiimu ii kagen ni shiro!

Huh?

Kunzite · 05-15-2016, 11:51 AM

I guess it's "Kenneth Sporsheim, give me a break!"

Cynog Ap Brychan · 05-15-2016, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

Then what is the 645Z

A sequel?

**jatrax** · 05-15-2016, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan

A sequel?

A Zequel?

Sorry....

madscientist · 05-25-2016, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

The battery required to power the electromagnets to move such a gigantic sensor around would be pretty amazing too

That's where some high temp superconductors would come in handy. The power requirements would be minimal and moving the sensor about would be child's play. The fly in the ointment is the superconductors...we don't have any high temp ones, unfortunately!!!. The only other way to move it would be to use micro-actuators, like the actuators they use in adaptive optics on telescopes, but on a micro scale. That would work and wouldn't necessarily use too much battery power.

disconnekt · 06-10-2016, 02:17 PM

645ZII Feat. Pixel Shift Resolution!

2351HD · 06-10-2016, 02:21 PM

I would be happy with just a 645zII featuring and EVF and electronic first curtain shutter (obviously) and no mirror box. In effect a lighter mirror less 645z, and it could be a little less deep as there is room in there for some space reduction.

D1N0 · 06-10-2016, 02:32 PM

**monochrome** · 06-10-2016, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by 2351HD

I would be happy with just a 645zII featuring and EVF and electronic first curtain shutter (obviously) and no mirror box. In effect a lighter mirror less 645z, and it could be a little less deep as there is room in there for some space reduction.

But Pentax has zero mirrorless experience. I doubt they'd use the next MF iteration as their debut MILC. Something after the K-70 maybe.

**luftfluss** · 06-10-2016, 04:02 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by monochrome

But Pentax has zero mirrorless experience. I doubt they'd use the next MF iteration as their debut MILC. Something after the K-70 maybe.

You've already forgotten about the K-01?

reh321 · 06-10-2016, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

But Pentax has zero mirrorless experience. I doubt they'd use the next MF iteration as their debut MILC. Something after the K-70 maybe.

My Q-7 is very disappointed to learn that it doesn't exist ... but I basically agree with your main point. I've been saying for some time now that Pentax needs to introduce a new "Q", this one with an EVF, to get more experience with that technology. I would also argue that they should build a larger MILC {K-70 looks like an excellent starting point for that} with EVF before they consider at all developing an MF MILC.

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05-15-2016, 10:16 AM	#91
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by D1N0 After a long break, the Ricoh, finally, plans to announce a successor to the 645D medium format. The new model is rumored to get the name of Pentax 645D II. Then what is the 645Z It's just typo IMO

05-15-2016, 10:32 AM	#92
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by ogl New rumor - 645ZII with 100 MP sensor and 4K video will be shown at Photokina, 2016. That is possible and only 4 months waiting.

05-15-2016, 10:53 AM	#93
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,073	Originally posted by marmaduke it would stand to reason that the way forward is K1 FF 36 Mpx - 4 fps - 2K € K1 XT FF (sports and terrain camera) 20 Mpx - 16 fps - 2K € K3 II APS-c 24 Mpx - 8 fps 1k € 645 Z II 100 Mpx - 3 fps 7K € K2-S 20 Mpx - 0,5K € Q & WG 16 Mpx - 0,3K € Don't forget that they also have binoculars and telescopes... do check out the industrial output of ricoh, it's so much more. the range is complete. No other company has this reach or this offer. bar none... It"s insane to think that a third tier company far far from close to 50 % market share of the big twin can boast this sort of feat. A. This.

05-15-2016, 11:23 AM	#95
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,073	Originally posted by D1N0 Kenesu Supooshiimu ii kagen ni shiro! Huh?

05-15-2016, 11:51 AM	#96
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I guess it's "Kenneth Sporsheim, give me a break!"

05-15-2016, 03:14 PM	#97
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by D1N0 Then what is the 645Z A sequel?

05-15-2016, 08:33 PM	#98
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan A sequel? A Zequel? Sorry....

05-25-2016, 07:30 PM	#99
madscientist New Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 4	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock The battery required to power the electromagnets to move such a gigantic sensor around would be pretty amazing too That's where some high temp superconductors would come in handy. The power requirements would be minimal and moving the sensor about would be child's play. The fly in the ointment is the superconductors...we don't have any high temp ones, unfortunately!!!. The only other way to move it would be to use micro-actuators, like the actuators they use in adaptive optics on telescopes, but on a micro scale. That would work and wouldn't necessarily use too much battery power.

06-10-2016, 02:17 PM	#100
disconnekt Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SoCal/I.E. Photos: Albums Posts: 1,702	645ZII Feat. Pixel Shift Resolution!

06-10-2016, 02:21 PM	#101
2351HD Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 750	I would be happy with just a 645zII featuring and EVF and electronic first curtain shutter (obviously) and no mirror box. In effect a lighter mirror less 645z, and it could be a little less deep as there is room in there for some space reduction.

06-10-2016, 02:32 PM	#102
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802

06-10-2016, 03:31 PM	#103
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by 2351HD I would be happy with just a 645zII featuring and EVF and electronic first curtain shutter (obviously) and no mirror box. In effect a lighter mirror less 645z, and it could be a little less deep as there is room in there for some space reduction. But Pentax has zero mirrorless experience. I doubt they'd use the next MF iteration as their debut MILC. Something after the K-70 maybe.

06-10-2016, 04:02 PM - 1 Like	#104
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,627	Originally posted by monochrome But Pentax has zero mirrorless experience. I doubt they'd use the next MF iteration as their debut MILC. Something after the K-70 maybe. You've already forgotten about the K-01?

06-10-2016, 04:27 PM	#105
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,184	Originally posted by monochrome But Pentax has zero mirrorless experience. I doubt they'd use the next MF iteration as their debut MILC. Something after the K-70 maybe. My Q-7 is very disappointed to learn that it doesn't exist ... but I basically agree with your main point. I've been saying for some time now that Pentax needs to introduce a new "Q", this one with an EVF, to get more experience with that technology. I would also argue that they should build a larger MILC {K-70 looks like an excellent starting point for that} with EVF before they consider at all developing an MF MILC.