New 645Z with 100MP sensor?

**monochrome** · 03-17-2016, 10:34 AM

Another thread jack. 100Mp 645 is the thread subject.

mee · 03-17-2016, 03:56 PM - **2 Likes**

Ok.. just imagine the detail of Rupert's beard in a 100MP MF image.

bertwert · 03-17-2016, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by mee

Ok.. just imagine the detail of Rupert's beard in a 100MP MF image.

Or the details of squirrels...

See ya, I've gotta run!

Winder · 03-17-2016, 06:04 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by rawr

Only 100MP for 645? They need to make pixel-shift work on it to impress.

For by the time any 100MP 645 comes to market, Canikon (and Sony themselves) will probably all have 50MP+ full-frames available.

A Full size 645 sensor with pixel shift would be something pretty amazing. I imagine it would take a huge amount of processing power and a monster buffer to run 4 100MP images in quick sucession.

Sandy Hancock · 03-17-2016, 06:08 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Winder

A Full size 645 sensor with pixel shift would be something pretty amazing.

The battery required to power the electromagnets to move such a gigantic sensor around would be pretty amazing too

petrakka · 03-17-2016, 06:47 PM

Anyone else notice that this rumored sensor is physically bigger than the current one? I'm still on the 645D and happy with it, but a less cropped 645 sensor, no matter the MP count is probably the top of my list.
By the time this maybe comes out I might just be ready to take that plunge again.

Sandy Hancock · 03-17-2016, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by petrakka

Anyone else notice that this rumored sensor is physically bigger than the current one?

The use of terms like "full size" and "gigantic" in the previous two posts would suggest the answer is yes....

rlatjsrud · 03-17-2016, 07:09 PM

Wouldn't be possible to put SR in MF camera? Sony A7 series were known to be impossible to put 5 axis SR but they did within that small body. From this case, Pentax 645 can put SR too. Also, when they interviewed about 645Z they mentioned about adding SR but they couldn't at that time.

bobmaxja · 03-17-2016, 07:13 PM

This is in line with Ricoh comment many years ago that they want to be the alternative choice for Pro(Non sport) . By having best in class MF, best feature on FF for the price and top APS-C for general photog. That they have a full system .

If you look at it , they are not interested in sport or video . But I will not be at all surprise that Ricoh will come a with a dedicated camera for video.
Here Ricoh slide of their business plan and video is a key parts of B2B and if you look they intend to bring that to the consumer products.

bxf · 03-18-2016, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Let's see... since it has double the number of pixels, I would double the model name/letter (the Z part, as 645 is the mount); and it would be the top model... enter the 645ZZ Top

This idea rocks!

**Digitalis** · 03-18-2016, 07:33 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

The battery required to power the electromagnets to move such a gigantic sensor around would be pretty amazing too

The magnets needed for the SR system would probably be big enough to cause the camera itself to vibrate.

**monochrome** · 03-18-2016, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Digitalis

The magnets needed for the SR system would probably be big enough to cause the camera itself to vibrate.

Macro Rail auto-alignment feature.

Bophoto · 03-18-2016, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by rlatjsrud

Wouldn't be possible to put SR in MF camera? Sony A7 series were known to be impossible to put 5 axis SR but they did within that small body. From this case, Pentax 645 can put SR too. Also, when they interviewed about 645Z they mentioned about adding SR but they couldn't at that time.

Pentax need to put in a bigger battery in the coming Pentax FF 645 ZZ top. Like one they have in power drills, they have Li-ion now.

rlatjsrud · 03-18-2016, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Bophoto

Pentax need to put in a bigger battery in the coming Pentax FF 645 ZZ top. Like one they have in power drills, they have Li-ion now.

Then they should make a new battery or a battery grip for 645 camera.

SteveM · 03-18-2016, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by ffking

Roll on 67D

I wish!

A 100MP sound interesting but what does it really equate to. How big of a photo are you expecting to print?

Dynamic range and iso performance?.....isn't that what people pay for? The best camera for ISO is still the Df.....and it is only a FF camera at 16MP. Does that make any sense given it's sensor size? Can't someone provide a MF sensor with killer DR and ISO?

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03-17-2016, 10:34 AM	#46
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Another thread jack. 100Mp 645 is the thread subject.

03-17-2016, 03:56 PM - 2 Likes	#47
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Ok.. just imagine the detail of Rupert's beard in a 100MP MF image.

03-17-2016, 05:54 PM	#48
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,173	Originally posted by mee Ok.. just imagine the detail of Rupert's beard in a 100MP MF image. Or the details of squirrels... See ya, I've gotta run!

03-17-2016, 06:04 PM - 1 Like	#49
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by rawr Only 100MP for 645? They need to make pixel-shift work on it to impress. For by the time any 100MP 645 comes to market, Canikon (and Sony themselves) will probably all have 50MP+ full-frames available. A Full size 645 sensor with pixel shift would be something pretty amazing. I imagine it would take a huge amount of processing power and a monster buffer to run 4 100MP images in quick sucession.

03-17-2016, 06:08 PM - 1 Like	#50
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,267	Originally posted by Winder A Full size 645 sensor with pixel shift would be something pretty amazing. The battery required to power the electromagnets to move such a gigantic sensor around would be pretty amazing too

03-17-2016, 06:47 PM	#51
petrakka Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Chicago Posts: 91	Anyone else notice that this rumored sensor is physically bigger than the current one? I'm still on the 645D and happy with it, but a less cropped 645 sensor, no matter the MP count is probably the top of my list. By the time this maybe comes out I might just be ready to take that plunge again.

03-17-2016, 07:00 PM	#52
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,267	Originally posted by petrakka Anyone else notice that this rumored sensor is physically bigger than the current one? The use of terms like "full size" and "gigantic" in the previous two posts would suggest the answer is yes....

03-17-2016, 07:09 PM	#53
rlatjsrud Guest	Wouldn't be possible to put SR in MF camera? Sony A7 series were known to be impossible to put 5 axis SR but they did within that small body. From this case, Pentax 645 can put SR too. Also, when they interviewed about 645Z they mentioned about adding SR but they couldn't at that time.

03-17-2016, 07:13 PM	#54
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	This is in line with Ricoh comment many years ago that they want to be the alternative choice for Pro(Non sport) . By having best in class MF, best feature on FF for the price and top APS-C for general photog. That they have a full system . If you look at it , they are not interested in sport or video . But I will not be at all surprise that Ricoh will come a with a dedicated camera for video. Here Ricoh slide of their business plan and video is a key parts of B2B and if you look they intend to bring that to the consumer products.

03-18-2016, 03:45 AM	#55
bxf Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lisbon area Posts: 1,660	Originally posted by Kunzite Let's see... since it has double the number of pixels, I would double the model name/letter (the Z part, as 645 is the mount); and it would be the top model... enter the 645ZZ Top This idea rocks!

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03-18-2016, 07:33 PM - 1 Like	#56
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock The battery required to power the electromagnets to move such a gigantic sensor around would be pretty amazing too The magnets needed for the SR system would probably be big enough to cause the camera itself to vibrate.

03-18-2016, 07:48 PM	#57
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Digitalis The magnets needed for the SR system would probably be big enough to cause the camera itself to vibrate. Macro Rail auto-alignment feature.

03-18-2016, 09:42 PM	#58
Bophoto Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 429	Originally posted by rlatjsrud Wouldn't be possible to put SR in MF camera? Sony A7 series were known to be impossible to put 5 axis SR but they did within that small body. From this case, Pentax 645 can put SR too. Also, when they interviewed about 645Z they mentioned about adding SR but they couldn't at that time. Pentax need to put in a bigger battery in the coming Pentax FF 645 ZZ top. Like one they have in power drills, they have Li-ion now.

03-18-2016, 10:15 PM	#59
rlatjsrud Guest	Originally posted by Bophoto Pentax need to put in a bigger battery in the coming Pentax FF 645 ZZ top. Like one they have in power drills, they have Li-ion now. Then they should make a new battery or a battery grip for 645 camera.

03-18-2016, 11:11 PM	#60
SteveM Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,294	Originally posted by ffking Roll on 67D I wish! A 100MP sound interesting but what does it really equate to. How big of a photo are you expecting to print? Dynamic range and iso performance?.....isn't that what people pay for? The best camera for ISO is still the Df.....and it is only a FF camera at 16MP. Does that make any sense given it's sensor size? Can't someone provide a MF sensor with killer DR and ISO?