K-1 Full res JPGs versus D810 ISO 12800, ISO 51200

micromacro · 03-21-2016, 05:55 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Giklab

It's mushy as hell. It's an objectively bad algorithm, compared to other current ones. And it makes this comparison very difficult, because it looks like the Nikon had it turned off..

Mushy as hell? I don't know. I noticed when I reduce color noise from Canon camera in LR in raw files, I get much more "mushy" result. I'm not an expert of course.

Rupert · 03-21-2016, 06:18 AM - **3 Likes**

You know. I haven't even received my K1 and I am more than a little disappointed that some are already trying to beat it up. I'm pretty damn excited, have high expectations, and am not looking for ways to be negative before I snap my first shot.

I am also amazed at the skill some have in reviewing the K1, having never even touched one, never taken a snap, and never invested a dime of their money in one (or Mrs Ruperts

).

I know...it is common practice, we always see it when a new Flagship is in the final stage before delivery...but it is still ugly.

I'm gonna get mine, love it, and use it a lot......and according to Mrs Rupert, it will make me a Pro in no time!

I once made an entire gallery of 100% crops so people could view lovely pixels, and no one but a few freaks were ever interested, so I went back to normal postings. You'd be amazed at the difference in viewers opinions...some of you ought to try it!

That's my 2 cents.....I don't let my squirrels get into a conversation like this, and those of you that value your hinies can thank me for it!

Best Regards!

Rupert......Proud and excited Pentaxian!

kenspo · 03-21-2016, 06:24 AM

No one have yet. Only pre-product ones out there. So dont know why you are so disappointed about.

**baldeagle21b** · 03-21-2016, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

No one have yet. Only pre-product ones out there. So dont know why you are so disappointed about.

People conveniently (or intentionally) neglect to mention the pre-production version of the firmware used for these samples. Any evaluations and comments
based upon them have no bearing whatever regarding the final 1.0 version. This entire thread is just entirely irrelevant and a waste of space.

**ffking** · 03-21-2016, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

No one have yet. Only pre-product ones out there. So dont know why you are so disappointed about.

apologies if you'd said elsewhere, but, just for interest's sake, what firmware version are you working with?

kenspo · 03-21-2016, 07:18 AM

@baldeagle21b hehe

@ffking There haven't come any updates on the cameras available around here..So still v.0.38..Main people in Japan are testing v.1.0 but no one outside Japan..As far as i know not. I have given back the camera i had, and just waiting to get my K-1's with v.1.0

**jlstrawman** · 03-21-2016, 08:47 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Rupert

You know. I haven't even received my K1 and I am more than a little disappointed that some are already trying to beat it up. I'm pretty damn excited, have high expectations, and am not looking for ways to be negative before I snap my first shot.

I am also amazed at the skill some have in reviewing the K1, having never even touched one, never taken a snap, and never invested a dime of their money in one (or Mrs Ruperts

).

I know...it is common practice, we always see it when a new Flagship is in the final stage before delivery...but it is still ugly.

I'm gonna get mine, love it, and use it a lot.....

Thanks, Rupert, for stating what most reasonable people are thinking. The constant whining get real old. Fortunately, I find the ignore list has helped a lot. The poor whiners must really lead unhappy lives.

timautin · 03-22-2016, 04:10 AM

I didn't read all the posts so maybe someone already pointed that, but looking at the exifs, the noise reduction is OFF.

**shardulm** · 03-23-2016, 09:01 AM

The blacks are much cleaner. A great indicator of ISO performance IMO.

reh321 · 03-23-2016, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Giklab

It's mushy as hell. It's an objectively bad algorithm, compared to other current ones. And it makes this comparison very difficult, because it looks like the Nikon had it turned off.

Then run out and buy an 810. No waiting! {only an extra $1000 at a reputable dealer - enough to have bought a K-3ii and still had change left over}

Giklab · 03-23-2016, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Then run out and buy an 810. No waiting! {only an extra $1000 at a reputable dealer - enough to have bought a K-3ii and still had change left over}

Can I be happy with my K-5II?

**TER-OR** · 03-23-2016, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Giklab

Can I be happy with my K-5II?

No! You must be filled with self-doubt and envy! IT IS THE WAY.

Parallax · 03-23-2016, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Giklab

Can I be happy with my K-5II?

The last firmware update had a self destruct code in it. The camera will no longer work as of the K-1 release date.

JimmyDranox · 03-23-2016, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Giklab

Can I be happy with my K-5II?

And don't turn the camera to the sky. You will find strange objects in your pictures

03-21-2016, 06:18 AM - 3 Likes	#92
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	You know. I haven't even received my K1 and I am more than a little disappointed that some are already trying to beat it up. I'm pretty damn excited, have high expectations, and am not looking for ways to be negative before I snap my first shot. I am also amazed at the skill some have in reviewing the K1, having never even touched one, never taken a snap, and never invested a dime of their money in one (or Mrs Ruperts). I know...it is common practice, we always see it when a new Flagship is in the final stage before delivery...but it is still ugly. I'm gonna get mine, love it, and use it a lot......and according to Mrs Rupert, it will make me a Pro in no time! I once made an entire gallery of 100% crops so people could view lovely pixels, and no one but a few freaks were ever interested, so I went back to normal postings. You'd be amazed at the difference in viewers opinions...some of you ought to try it! That's my 2 cents.....I don't let my squirrels get into a conversation like this, and those of you that value your hinies can thank me for it! Best Regards! Rupert......Proud and excited Pentaxian!

03-21-2016, 08:47 AM - 1 Like	#97
jlstrawman Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Midwest US Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,058	Originally posted by Rupert You know. I haven't even received my K1 and I am more than a little disappointed that some are already trying to beat it up. I'm pretty damn excited, have high expectations, and am not looking for ways to be negative before I snap my first shot. I am also amazed at the skill some have in reviewing the K1, having never even touched one, never taken a snap, and never invested a dime of their money in one (or Mrs Ruperts). I know...it is common practice, we always see it when a new Flagship is in the final stage before delivery...but it is still ugly. I'm gonna get mine, love it, and use it a lot..... Thanks, Rupert, for stating what most reasonable people are thinking. The constant whining get real old. Fortunately, I find the ignore list has helped a lot. The poor whiners must really lead unhappy lives.

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03-21-2016, 05:55 AM - 1 Like	#91
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722	Originally posted by Giklab It's mushy as hell. It's an objectively bad algorithm, compared to other current ones. And it makes this comparison very difficult, because it looks like the Nikon had it turned off.. Mushy as hell? I don't know. I noticed when I reduce color noise from Canon camera in LR in raw files, I get much more "mushy" result. I'm not an expert of course.

03-21-2016, 06:24 AM	#93
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	No one have yet. Only pre-product ones out there. So dont know why you are so disappointed about.

03-21-2016, 06:41 AM	#94
baldeagle21b Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 223	Originally posted by kenspo No one have yet. Only pre-product ones out there. So dont know why you are so disappointed about. People conveniently (or intentionally) neglect to mention the pre-production version of the firmware used for these samples. Any evaluations and comments based upon them have no bearing whatever regarding the final 1.0 version. This entire thread is just entirely irrelevant and a waste of space.

03-21-2016, 06:53 AM	#95
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by kenspo No one have yet. Only pre-product ones out there. So dont know why you are so disappointed about. apologies if you'd said elsewhere, but, just for interest's sake, what firmware version are you working with?

03-21-2016, 07:18 AM	#96
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	@baldeagle21b hehe @ffking There haven't come any updates on the cameras available around here..So still v.0.38..Main people in Japan are testing v.1.0 but no one outside Japan..As far as i know not. I have given back the camera i had, and just waiting to get my K-1's with v.1.0

03-22-2016, 04:10 AM	#98
timautin Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 346	I didn't read all the posts so maybe someone already pointed that, but looking at the exifs, the noise reduction is OFF.

03-23-2016, 09:01 AM	#99
shardulm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 793	The blacks are much cleaner. A great indicator of ISO performance IMO.

03-23-2016, 11:12 AM	#100
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by Giklab It's mushy as hell. It's an objectively bad algorithm, compared to other current ones. And it makes this comparison very difficult, because it looks like the Nikon had it turned off. Then run out and buy an 810. No waiting! {only an extra $1000 at a reputable dealer - enough to have bought a K-3ii and still had change left over}

03-23-2016, 11:38 AM	#101
Giklab Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,182	Originally posted by reh321 Then run out and buy an 810. No waiting! {only an extra $1000 at a reputable dealer - enough to have bought a K-3ii and still had change left over} Can I be happy with my K-5II?

03-23-2016, 12:53 PM	#102
TER-OR Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dundee, IL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,699	Originally posted by Giklab Can I be happy with my K-5II? No! You must be filled with self-doubt and envy! IT IS THE WAY.

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03-23-2016, 01:11 PM	#103
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by Giklab Can I be happy with my K-5II? The last firmware update had a self destruct code in it. The camera will no longer work as of the K-1 release date.

03-23-2016, 01:24 PM	#104
JimmyDranox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ploiesti, Romania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,632	Originally posted by Giklab Can I be happy with my K-5II? And don't turn the camera to the sky. You will find strange objects in your pictures