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beholder3 · 03-19-2016, 03:00 AM

Mod edit: these pre-production photos (v0.38) that may not be representative of the image quality of the production K-1

Last edited by beholder3; 03-21-2016 at 08:02 AM.

kenspo · 03-19-2016, 03:10 AM - **1 Like**

As i have said for a long time. It will be a new world for me now. Finally i can compete with the same awesome tools as the others

biz-engineer · 03-19-2016, 03:23 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kenspo

As i have said for a long time. It will be a new world for me now. Finally i can compete with the same awesome tools as the others

Yep , as we can see from the full resolution photographs, you've made the right decision to stay with Ricoh.

ogl · 03-19-2016, 03:27 AM

K-1 is much better, but blurred. Nikon is sharp.

Bromberger · 03-19-2016, 03:29 AM

Looks good.

Weird though: The 810 has a lot of colour noise, while the K1 has none. And colour noise can be corrected quite easily. It's almost as someone ran colour noise reduction over only one of the two pictures.

Also, what's with the large horizontal lines (over the bottles, or the yellow area around the clock) in the 51k-iso-picture of the K1? It looks almost as if the scene was lit through window blinds.

Not trying to bash the K1, i'm confident it's gonna be an awesome camera.

---------- Post added 03-19-16 at 12:30 PM ----------

Originally posted by ogl

K-1 is much better, but blurred. Nikon is sharp.

No, the focus is just somewhere else in the picture, take another look.

Wild Mark · 03-19-2016, 03:34 AM

K1 shot looks better but there is some horizontal banding that bothers me ????

Cannikin · 03-19-2016, 03:38 AM

It's probably because of the different perspectives (K-1 is a little closer and more straight on), but the K-1 shots appear to have shallower DOF, making it impossible to judge relative sharpness for the objects in the background.

The D810 shots show a lot more color noise than the K-1, which is surprising considering they're supposed to have a similar if not the same sensor. Some kind of hidden NR on the K-1?

Last edited by Cannikin; 03-19-2016 at 03:52 AM.

Kunzite · 03-19-2016, 03:39 AM

I wouldn't be too worried about banding seen in a pre-production camera.

Wild Mark · 03-19-2016, 03:41 AM

the full res shot outside of the shed, track and snow is awesome. DR and sharpness great across the whole frame. Very good.

gorme · 03-19-2016, 03:49 AM

Originally posted by Wild Mark

K1 shot looks better but there is some horizontal banding that bothers me ????

Given the shutter speed, I suspect flickering

KDAFA · 03-19-2016, 03:53 AM

Compared to the D810, which seems to have been a sort of reference standard till now, the K-1 shows significantly lower chroma noise at high ISO. It looks like a new standard of performance in high ISO Full Frame photography is now possible.

Very good job done, Pentax - heartiest congratulations!

Sandy Hancock · 03-19-2016, 03:56 AM

The detail in the deconstructed Minolta is very well resolved in the K-1 images. From the D810 it's total mush.
The angle, and angle of view are quite different so real comparisons are impossible though. Are they SOOC jpegs, or RAW files processed similarly? If the former, at least some of the differences could be due to the in-camera processing.

pathdoc · 03-19-2016, 04:30 AM

IIRC from the K-1 website, they did things to the stuff that hangs off the back of the sensor for better NR. It would appear that this has had pleasant results.

On another note, who else thinks there is something dreadfully grim and metaphorical about flagship-level Pentax and Nikon cameras going head to head by photographing a dead Minolta, especially with a Sony product also present in the frame...

Mistral75 · 03-19-2016, 04:50 AM

Don't conclude too much from these pictures, in particular from their flaws.

Quote:

Firmware: PENTAX K-1 Ver. 0.38

melander · 03-19-2016, 04:58 AM

Comparing a7rmk2 vs pentax k-1 shows a pretty ugly side of the sony

Iso 3200
Sony A7Rmk2
http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/a7rmk2/DSC01169.JPG
vs
Pentax K-1
http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/k1/IMGP1015.JPG

03-19-2016, 03:00 AM	#1
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	K-1 pre-production full res JPGs versus D810 ISO 12800, ISO 51200 Full Res ISO 12800 (no noise reduction) : K-1 http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/k1/IMGP1017.JPG D810 http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/d810/DSC_0145.JPG A little scary ISO 51200 (watch for Details in the open Prismdome): K-1 http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/k1/IMGP1019.JPG D810 http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/d810/DSC_0147.JPG Full Res K-1 outside: http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/k1/IMGP0614.JPG http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/k1/IMGP0481.JPG http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/k1/IMGP0540.JPG http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/k1/IMGP0593.JPG http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/k1/IMGP0491.JPG Whatever sick pixelpeepers might say, this should be good enough for anyone who can't afford a larger sensor pro camera like the Pentax 645z. Whiners fell free. Mod edit: these pre-production photos (v0.38) that may not be representative of the image quality of the production K-1 Last edited by beholder3; 03-21-2016 at 08:02 AM.

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03-19-2016, 03:10 AM - 1 Like	#2
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	As i have said for a long time. It will be a new world for me now. Finally i can compete with the same awesome tools as the others

03-19-2016, 03:23 AM - 1 Like	#3
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,249	Originally posted by kenspo As i have said for a long time. It will be a new world for me now. Finally i can compete with the same awesome tools as the others Yep , as we can see from the full resolution photographs, you've made the right decision to stay with Ricoh.

03-19-2016, 03:27 AM	#4
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	K-1 is much better, but blurred. Nikon is sharp.

03-19-2016, 03:29 AM	#5
Bromberger Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 186	Looks good. Weird though: The 810 has a lot of colour noise, while the K1 has none. And colour noise can be corrected quite easily. It's almost as someone ran colour noise reduction over only one of the two pictures. Also, what's with the large horizontal lines (over the bottles, or the yellow area around the clock) in the 51k-iso-picture of the K1? It looks almost as if the scene was lit through window blinds. Not trying to bash the K1, i'm confident it's gonna be an awesome camera. ---------- Post added 03-19-16 at 12:30 PM ---------- Originally posted by ogl K-1 is much better, but blurred. Nikon is sharp. No, the focus is just somewhere else in the picture, take another look.

03-19-2016, 03:34 AM	#6
Wild Mark Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Newcastle Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,954	K1 shot looks better but there is some horizontal banding that bothers me ????

03-19-2016, 03:38 AM	#7
Cannikin Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SW Washington Posts: 833	It's probably because of the different perspectives (K-1 is a little closer and more straight on), but the K-1 shots appear to have shallower DOF, making it impossible to judge relative sharpness for the objects in the background. The D810 shots show a lot more color noise than the K-1, which is surprising considering they're supposed to have a similar if not the same sensor. Some kind of hidden NR on the K-1? Last edited by Cannikin; 03-19-2016 at 03:52 AM.

03-19-2016, 03:39 AM	#8
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I wouldn't be too worried about banding seen in a pre-production camera.

03-19-2016, 03:41 AM	#9
Wild Mark Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Newcastle Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,954	the full res shot outside of the shed, track and snow is awesome. DR and sharpness great across the whole frame. Very good.

03-19-2016, 03:49 AM	#10
gorme Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Galway - Ireland Posts: 213	Originally posted by Wild Mark K1 shot looks better but there is some horizontal banding that bothers me ???? Given the shutter speed, I suspect flickering

03-19-2016, 03:53 AM	#11
KDAFA Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 528	Compared to the D810, which seems to have been a sort of reference standard till now, the K-1 shows significantly lower chroma noise at high ISO. It looks like a new standard of performance in high ISO Full Frame photography is now possible. Very good job done, Pentax - heartiest congratulations!

03-19-2016, 03:56 AM	#12
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	The detail in the deconstructed Minolta is very well resolved in the K-1 images. From the D810 it's total mush. The angle, and angle of view are quite different so real comparisons are impossible though. Are they SOOC jpegs, or RAW files processed similarly? If the former, at least some of the differences could be due to the in-camera processing.

03-19-2016, 04:30 AM	#13
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	IIRC from the K-1 website, they did things to the stuff that hangs off the back of the sensor for better NR. It would appear that this has had pleasant results. On another note, who else thinks there is something dreadfully grim and metaphorical about flagship-level Pentax and Nikon cameras going head to head by photographing a dead Minolta, especially with a Sony product also present in the frame...

03-19-2016, 04:50 AM	#14
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Don't conclude too much from these pictures, in particular from their flaws. Quote: Firmware: PENTAX K-1 Ver. 0.38

03-19-2016, 04:58 AM	#15
melander Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden, Umea Posts: 876	Comparing a7rmk2 vs pentax k-1 shows a pretty ugly side of the sony Iso 3200 Sony A7Rmk2 http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/a7rmk2/DSC01169.JPG vs Pentax K-1 http://www.cyberphoto.se/bildexempel/k1/IMGP1015.JPG

K-1 Full res JPGs versus D810 ISO 12800, ISO 51200

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