I am betting on FF in September

sharpshoota · 07-30-2008, 10:01 AM

Talk about pointless posts.

**Pål Jensen** · 07-30-2008, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by ogl

I have new information. FF will be very soon. 645D will be too.

A bit later.

Very soon should be september at the latest

. The idea of Pentax releasing a pro APS DSLR, a pro FF camera and the 645D (and of course the entry level model) within a short timespan, seem somewhat far fetched to me

.
Or it could be that the Pro APS and the FF are more or less the same body

Anyway, I still believe that a pro APS camera at this juncture just cannibalize sales....:ugh:....that is, if it isn't a K20D replacement

MikePerham · 07-30-2008, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

Anyway, I still believe that a pro APS camera at this juncture just cannibalize sales....:ugh:....that is, if it isn't a K20D replacement

I suspect the K20D was the interim model ....It is largely based on the K10D but with the new sensor. I skipped the K20D in the hope that a higher specked model would be introduced, I would be quite happy if it retained the same sensor.

I am sure that they need that higher specked model ...something in the same league as Nikon's D300. While you may argue that the K20D competes, it may in IQ but not in technical spec's and Pentax need to show that they are in the game. To my thinking that (a D300 class model) would be more important than introducing a FF camera in terms of establishing the market share they are seeking.

Mike.

**Pål Jensen** · 07-30-2008, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by MikePerham

I suspect the K20D was the interim model ....It is largely based on the K10D but with the new sensor. I skipped the K20D in the hope that a higher specked model would be introduced, I would be quite happy if it retained the same sensor.

I am sure that they need that higher specked model ...something in the same league as Nikon's D300. While you may argue that the K20D competes, it may in IQ but not in technical spec's and Pentax need to show that they are in the game. To my thinking that (a D300 class model) would be more important than introducing a FF camera in terms of establishing the market share they are seeking.

Mike.

A solution could be after upgrading the K20D as above into the K30D, then moving the 14,6mp sensor into the K200D (K300D?). Theres room for this when the entry level model (K2000D?) hit the market with the 10mp sensor. If this scenario is correct, the K30D could provide a building block for the FF model (or vice versa) making both more viable...

RaduA · 07-30-2008, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

A solution could be after upgrading the K20D as above into the K30D, then moving the 14,6mp sensor into the K200D (K300D?). Theres room for this when the entry level model (K2000D?) hit the market with the 10mp sensor. If this scenario is correct, the K30D could provide a building block for the FF model (or vice versa) making both more viable...

...................

huqedato · 07-30-2008, 08:08 PM

Some rumors I heard from a sibling from Germany, working inside the Photokina '08 deployment staff: Pentax demanded some "special" preparations and facilities for some "special" launching events. They (Hoya/Pentax) are suppose to emerge with some "heavy" novelty. No other details they disclosed.
Time will tell, I can't wait for!

ogl · 07-30-2008, 09:14 PM

Hoya also has plans to make NEW FF lenses. Everything will be changed very soon.

Last edited by ogl; 07-30-2008 at 09:35 PM.

ogl · 07-30-2008, 09:22 PM

K20D's replacement will not be this year. It will be at the end of 2009.

ogl · 07-30-2008, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

Very soon should be september at the latest

. The idea of Pentax releasing a pro APS DSLR, a pro FF camera and the 645D (and of course the entry level model) within a short timespan, seem somewhat far fetched to me

.
Or it could be that the Pro APS and the FF are more or less the same body

Anyway, I still believe that a pro APS camera at this juncture just cannibalize sales....:ugh:....that is, if it isn't a K20D replacement

I heard information from the person which very close to Pentax Germany -
Hoya/pentax plan to offer 645D, FF and low-end model.
As for real dates of releases - I don't know. Maybe they just show this products and will make only in the beggining of 2009. But, it's not bad scenario.

Gus · 07-30-2008, 09:36 PM

I've always enjoyed reading your posts, ogl. Keep the juicy stuff comin...

**monochrome** · 07-30-2008, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by ogl

Hoya also has plans to make NEW FF lenses. Everything will be changed very soon.

If true, this place is going to be HOPPIN'!! (I better keep all that K glass that didn't sell last week)

ogl · 07-30-2008, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Gus

I've always enjoyed reading your posts, ogl. Keep the juicy stuff comin...

I'm happy.

Asahiflex · 07-31-2008, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by ogl

I'm happy.

Well, you should be because when I see your lenses, I guess you only believe in FF

(I feel exactly the same, just look at my sig).

**Pål Jensen** · 07-31-2008, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by ogl

K20D's replacement will not be this year. It will be at the end of 2009.

That makes very much sense to me....

**Pål Jensen** · 08-01-2008, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by ogl

I heard information from the person which very close to Pentax Germany -
Hoya/pentax plan to offer 645D, FF and low-end model.
As for real dates of releases - I don't know. Maybe they just show this products and will make only in the beggining of 2009. But, it's not bad scenario.

This sort of explains Nostradamus...eh....Wendys

latest prophesies. She is talking about two cameras, not one "hybrid" K-mount/645 body....

07-30-2008, 03:31 PM	#272
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by ogl I have new information. FF will be very soon. 645D will be too. A bit later. Very soon should be september at the latest. The idea of Pentax releasing a pro APS DSLR, a pro FF camera and the 645D (and of course the entry level model) within a short timespan, seem somewhat far fetched to me . Or it could be that the Pro APS and the FF are more or less the same body Anyway, I still believe that a pro APS camera at this juncture just cannibalize sales....:ugh:....that is, if it isn't a K20D replacement

07-30-2008, 09:32 PM	#279
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Pål Jensen Very soon should be september at the latest. The idea of Pentax releasing a pro APS DSLR, a pro FF camera and the 645D (and of course the entry level model) within a short timespan, seem somewhat far fetched to me . Or it could be that the Pro APS and the FF are more or less the same body Anyway, I still believe that a pro APS camera at this juncture just cannibalize sales....:ugh:....that is, if it isn't a K20D replacement I heard information from the person which very close to Pentax Germany - Hoya/pentax plan to offer 645D, FF and low-end model. As for real dates of releases - I don't know. Maybe they just show this products and will make only in the beggining of 2009. But, it's not bad scenario.

08-01-2008, 03:00 PM	#285
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by ogl I heard information from the person which very close to Pentax Germany - Hoya/pentax plan to offer 645D, FF and low-end model. As for real dates of releases - I don't know. Maybe they just show this products and will make only in the beggining of 2009. But, it's not bad scenario. This sort of explains Nostradamus...eh....Wendys latest prophesies. She is talking about two cameras, not one "hybrid" K-mount/645 body.... Last edited by Pål Jensen; 08-01-2008 at 04:59 PM.

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07-30-2008, 10:01 AM	#271
sharpshoota Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC Photos: Gallery Posts: 107	Talk about pointless posts.

07-30-2008, 04:07 PM	#273
MikePerham Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Prince George, BC Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 642	Originally posted by Pål Jensen Anyway, I still believe that a pro APS camera at this juncture just cannibalize sales....:ugh:....that is, if it isn't a K20D replacement I suspect the K20D *was* the interim model ....It is largely based on the K10D but with the new sensor. I skipped the K20D in the hope that a higher specked model would be introduced, I would be quite happy if it retained the same sensor. I am sure that they need that higher specked model ...something in the same league as Nikon's D300. While you may argue that the K20D competes, it may in IQ but not in technical spec's and Pentax need to show that they are in the game. To my thinking that (a D300 class model) would be more important than introducing a FF camera in terms of establishing the market share they are seeking. Mike.

07-30-2008, 04:33 PM	#274
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by MikePerham I suspect the K20D *was* the interim model ....It is largely based on the K10D but with the new sensor. I skipped the K20D in the hope that a higher specked model would be introduced, I would be quite happy if it retained the same sensor. I am sure that they need that higher specked model ...something in the same league as Nikon's D300. While you may argue that the K20D competes, it may in IQ but not in technical spec's and Pentax need to show that they are in the game. To my thinking that (a D300 class model) would be more important than introducing a FF camera in terms of establishing the market share they are seeking. Mike. A solution could be after upgrading the K20D as above into the K30D, then moving the 14,6mp sensor into the K200D (K300D?). Theres room for this when the entry level model (K2000D?) hit the market with the 10mp sensor. If this scenario is correct, the K30D could provide a building block for the FF model (or vice versa) making both more viable...

07-30-2008, 05:06 PM	#275
RaduA Guest	Originally posted by Pål Jensen A solution could be after upgrading the K20D as above into the K30D, then moving the 14,6mp sensor into the K200D (K300D?). Theres room for this when the entry level model (K2000D?) hit the market with the 10mp sensor. If this scenario is correct, the K30D could provide a building block for the FF model (or vice versa) making both more viable... ...................

07-30-2008, 08:08 PM	#276
huqedato Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: France, EU Posts: 97	Some rumors I heard from a sibling from Germany, working inside the Photokina '08 deployment staff: Pentax demanded some "special" preparations and facilities for some "special" launching events. They (Hoya/Pentax) are suppose to emerge with some "heavy" novelty. No other details they disclosed. Time will tell, I can't wait for!

07-30-2008, 09:14 PM	#277
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Hoya also has plans to make NEW FF lenses. Everything will be changed very soon. Last edited by ogl; 07-30-2008 at 09:35 PM.

07-30-2008, 09:22 PM	#278
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	K20D's replacement will not be this year. It will be at the end of 2009.

07-30-2008, 09:36 PM	#280
Gus Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 71	I've always enjoyed reading your posts, ogl. Keep the juicy stuff comin...

07-30-2008, 09:37 PM	#281
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by ogl Hoya also has plans to make NEW FF lenses. Everything will be changed very soon. If true, this place is going to be HOPPIN'!! (I better keep all that K glass that didn't sell last week)

07-30-2008, 10:07 PM	#282
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Gus I've always enjoyed reading your posts, ogl. Keep the juicy stuff comin... I'm happy.

07-31-2008, 01:25 AM	#283
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by ogl I'm happy. Well, you should be because when I see your lenses, I guess you only believe in FF (I feel exactly the same, just look at my sig).

07-31-2008, 05:53 AM	#284
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by ogl K20D's replacement will not be this year. It will be at the end of 2009. That makes very much sense to me....