More hints of possible Ricoh Fuji collaboratoin?

Fogel70 · 06-22-2016, 03:01 PM

Sure, but if they release MF cameras I doubt they will be cheaper than Pentax 645Z.
Pentax can even sell K1 as cheap as Sony A7 II, or almost at half the price of Sony A7r II.
And Fuji sells X Pro 2 (APS-C mirrorless) at same price as K1.

Last edited by Fogel70; 06-22-2016 at 03:14 PM.

rlatjsrud · 06-22-2016, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by Fogel70

Sure, but if they release MF cameras I doubt they will be cheaper than Pentax 645Z.
Pentax can even sell K1 as cheap as Sony A7 II, or almost at half the price of Sony A7r II.
And Fuji sells X Pro 2 (APS-C mirrorless) at same price as K1.

For Fuji, they don't care about the camera system that much. Because of that, they charge more money on each lenses and cameras. They still using same sensors.

Btw only USA sell the cheapest price for K-1. Other countries sold K-1 around $3000.

D1N0 · 06-22-2016, 03:38 PM

Ehm 1999 euro including taxes

Kunzite · 06-22-2016, 04:09 PM

Ehm less than 1950 euro around here

D1N0 · 06-23-2016, 02:27 AM

Oh we weren't talking msrp? Then 1875

Kunzite · 06-23-2016, 02:51 AM

I'm converting the local price from Romanian lei to euro, without applying any discount.

phat_bog · 06-23-2016, 06:29 AM

The only great puropose for such a collaboration would be to counter Hasselblad on the mirorless medium format.

rawr · 06-23-2016, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by phat_bog

counter Hasselblad on the mirorless medium format

But Fuji allegedly is already collaborating with Hasselblad, to the extent of making the new X1D camera and lenses.

D1N0 · 06-23-2016, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by rawr

But Fuji allegedly is already collaborating with Hasselblad, to the extent of making the new X1D camera and lenses.

Hasselblad denies it. it is an in house camera, Lenses are made by Nittõ Kogaku in Japan.

SylvainB · 06-23-2016, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by rawr

But Fuji allegedly is already collaborating with Hasselblad, to the extent of making the new X1D camera and lenses.

Fuji was not involved in mirrorless Hasselblad development according to Hasselbald CEO. Hasselblad actually has the classic H system made by Fuji (not so true anymore for the body now I think), and the HC / HCD lenses are made by Fuji. But not the new X1D system.

rlatjsrud · 06-23-2016, 10:08 AM

Hasselblad X1D vs Sony A7r II vs Canon 5DS vs Pentax 645D: Size Comparison

This is how small Hasselblad X1D is.

It would be awesome and great if Pentax/Ricoh develop mirrorless version of FF and MF cameras.

rawr · 06-23-2016, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

Hasselblad denies it. it is an in house camera, Lenses are made by Nittõ Kogaku in Japan.

Aha. My mistake.
So that makes Fuji free for other partners then, I guess.
Assuming Fuji (or Hasselblad) are not bound by any 'no-compete' clauses in any existing commercial agreements of theirs.

D1N0 · 06-23-2016, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by rawr

Aha. My mistake.
So that makes Fuji free for other partners then, I guess.
Assuming Fuji (or Hasselblad) are not bound by any 'no-compete' clauses in any existing commercial agreements of theirs.

Fuji still makes lenses for the H system, just not for this mirrorless. Maybe Fuji is coming out with it's own MF mirrorless.....

ogl · 06-23-2016, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

Fuji still makes lenses for the H system, just not for this mirrorless. Maybe Fuji is coming out with it's own MF mirrorless.....

Made...We don't know modern situation...
Maybe Nitto makes lenses now.

SylvainB · 06-23-2016, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by ogl

Made...We don't know modern situation...
Maybe Nitto makes lenses now.

Yes, we know modern situation : Fuji still makes H lenses, Hasselblad is not particularly hiding it. They were just not involved in Hasselblad mirrorless project.

06-23-2016, 07:04 AM	#100
SylvainB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Paris area Posts: 214	Originally posted by rawr But Fuji allegedly is already collaborating with Hasselblad, to the extent of making the new X1D camera and lenses. Fuji was not involved in mirrorless Hasselblad development according to Hasselbald CEO. Hasselblad actually has the classic H system made by Fuji (not so true anymore for the body now I think), and the HC / HCD lenses are made by Fuji. But not the new X1D system. Last edited by SylvainB; 06-23-2016 at 07:05 AM. Reason: correction of typo

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Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	Sure, but if they release MF cameras I doubt they will be cheaper than Pentax 645Z. Pentax can even sell K1 as cheap as Sony A7 II, or almost at half the price of Sony A7r II. And Fuji sells X Pro 2 (APS-C mirrorless) at same price as K1. Last edited by Fogel70; 06-22-2016 at 03:14 PM.

06-22-2016, 03:28 PM	#92
rlatjsrud Guest	Originally posted by Fogel70 Sure, but if they release MF cameras I doubt they will be cheaper than Pentax 645Z. Pentax can even sell K1 as cheap as Sony A7 II, or almost at half the price of Sony A7r II. And Fuji sells X Pro 2 (APS-C mirrorless) at same price as K1. For Fuji, they don't care about the camera system that much. Because of that, they charge more money on each lenses and cameras. They still using same sensors. Btw only USA sell the cheapest price for K-1. Other countries sold K-1 around $3000.

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D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Ehm 1999 euro including taxes

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Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Ehm less than 1950 euro around here

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D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Oh we weren't talking msrp? Then 1875

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Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I'm converting the local price from Romanian lei to euro, without applying any discount.

06-23-2016, 06:29 AM	#97
phat_bog Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Paris Posts: 124	The only great puropose for such a collaboration would be to counter Hasselblad on the mirorless medium format.

06-23-2016, 06:49 AM	#98
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by phat_bog counter Hasselblad on the mirorless medium format But Fuji allegedly is already collaborating with Hasselblad, to the extent of making the new X1D camera and lenses.

06-23-2016, 07:03 AM	#99
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by rawr But Fuji allegedly is already collaborating with Hasselblad, to the extent of making the new X1D camera and lenses. Hasselblad denies it. it is an in house camera, Lenses are made by Nittõ Kogaku in Japan.

06-23-2016, 10:08 AM	#101
rlatjsrud Guest	Hasselblad X1D vs Sony A7r II vs Canon 5DS vs Pentax 645D: Size Comparison This is how small Hasselblad X1D is. It would be awesome and great if Pentax/Ricoh develop mirrorless version of FF and MF cameras.

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06-23-2016, 10:44 AM	#102
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by D1N0 Hasselblad denies it. it is an in house camera, Lenses are made by Nittõ Kogaku in Japan. Aha. My mistake. So that makes Fuji free for other partners then, I guess. Assuming Fuji (or Hasselblad) are not bound by any 'no-compete' clauses in any existing commercial agreements of theirs.

06-23-2016, 11:33 AM	#103
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by rawr Aha. My mistake. So that makes Fuji free for other partners then, I guess. Assuming Fuji (or Hasselblad) are not bound by any 'no-compete' clauses in any existing commercial agreements of theirs. Fuji still makes lenses for the H system, just not for this mirrorless. Maybe Fuji is coming out with it's own MF mirrorless.....

06-23-2016, 11:37 AM	#104
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by D1N0 Fuji still makes lenses for the H system, just not for this mirrorless. Maybe Fuji is coming out with it's own MF mirrorless..... Made...We don't know modern situation... Maybe Nitto makes lenses now.

06-23-2016, 10:21 PM	#105
SylvainB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Paris area Posts: 214	Originally posted by ogl Made...We don't know modern situation... Maybe Nitto makes lenses now. Yes, we know modern situation : Fuji still makes H lenses, Hasselblad is not particularly hiding it. They were just not involved in Hasselblad mirrorless project.