200mm f2,8 patent

normhead · 04-21-2016, 06:20 AM

We did see the design for the 70-200 a few years ago, 3 or 4, so 3.5 years would seem to be the standard.
Pentax patent for a 70-200mm f/2.8 lens | Photo Rumors

Current pricing would suggest an HD version of the current lens will be out soon, with the new one out much later.

**Rondec** · 04-21-2016, 06:57 AM

I do wonder how much benefit a 200 f2.8 prime would have over the 70-200 f2.8. I guess a little smaller size, but would need to have a different motor to make it auto focus faster. The other thing would working to decrease purple fringing, which can be pretty severe with the DA *200.

But I agree with the others. Doesn't feel like a priority right now.

i83N · 04-21-2016, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

I do wonder how much benefit a 200 f2.8 prime would have over the 70-200 f2.8. I guess a little smaller size, but would need to have a different motor to make it auto focus faster. The other thing would working to decrease purple fringing, which can be pretty severe with the DA *200.

But I agree with the others. Doesn't feel like a priority right now.

In fix it’s CA and conner to conner sharpens is easy to control than in zoom.

sculptor666 · 04-21-2016, 12:28 PM - **2 Likes**

mmmake it mmmacro

**Kerrowdown** · 04-21-2016, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by WillWeaverRVA

I don't think the DA* 200 f/2.8 is FF compatible...is it?

I believe it is... but my “Gorgeous Lady” (SMC Pentax-A* 200mm F2.8 ED) most certainly is.

infoomatic · 04-21-2016, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Kerrowdown

I believe it is... but my “Gorgeous Lady” (SMC Pentax-A* 200mm F2.8 ED) most certainly is.

I just happened to find a "like new" FA* 200mm f/2.8, I have never seen one on ebay but here at the local flee market. I really scratched my head about buying or not buying, but I did buy it and its a real gem. I have used it twice on my Sony A7-II and I really really like the results. Could not find too much information on the net about the quality of the lens. I think it's just like my FA* 85mm but in longer, a lens with character. Will open (there is not even a sample image thread!) a thread soon, and I am really looking forward to using it on the K-1

thibs · 04-21-2016, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by infoomatic

I just happened to find a "like new" FA* 200mm f/2.8, I have never seen one on ebay but here at the local flee market. I really scratched my head about buying or not buying, but I did buy it and its a real gem. I have used it twice on my Sony A7-II and I really really like the results. Could not find too much information on the net about the quality of the lens. I think it's just like my FA* 85mm but in longer, a lens with character. Will open (there is not even a sample image thread!) a thread soon, and I am really looking forward to using it on the K-1

It's just the same as a DA*200 but the shape and noisy AF (and no aperture ring).

---------- Post added 22-04-16 at 07:21 ----------

Originally posted by FantasticMrFox

It is, that's why I'm surprised that they are working on another one. If they are, of course.

Because it is a 1993 film era design (not that it is bad but its CA can be mean).

**Kerrowdown** · 04-24-2016, 03:00 AM

Originally posted by thibs

but its CA can be mean

I'm pleased to say though... it's still a quick corrective fix in most of the decent PP software packages.

Na Horuk · 04-24-2016, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by sculptor666

mmmake it mmmacro

That would certainly make it stand out! Give it special near focus capabilities, and it would have something the f2.8 zoom lenses don't.

zmohie · 04-24-2016, 04:02 AM

I have fa * 200.it is very nice and super nice when talking about colour rendering. I have many fa lenses but 2 lenses are must have fa 31 and fa* 200.
I like the 3D character of both lenses some thing I couldn't find with the rest lenses which I have.

rlatjsrud · 04-24-2016, 07:03 PM

They should post the official lens road map tho.

**jatrax** · 04-24-2016, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by rlatjsrud

They should post the official lens road map tho.

Here you go: 2016 Pentax Full Frame Lens Roadmaps - CP+ 2016 | PentaxForums.com

rlatjsrud · 04-24-2016, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

Here you go: 2016 Pentax Full Frame Lens Roadmaps - CP+ 2016 | PentaxForums.com

Only one lens? They didn't even post new lenses to the lens road map yet. 200mm didn't even mentioned.

**jatrax** · 04-24-2016, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by rlatjsrud

200mm didn't even mentioned.

What 200mm? They filed a patent. Doesn't mean there will ever be a lens using it and even if so might be 5 years away. Why would that go on a 'lens map'?? Lens map is for things heading to production, not gleams in designers eyes that might never see the light of day.

Originally posted by rlatjsrud

Only one lens?

And there are 6 on the road map not yet released. Plus the new ones already released. Did you even look at the map?

rlatjsrud · 04-24-2016, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

What 200mm? They filed a patent. Doesn't mean there will ever be a lens using it and even if so might be 5 years away. Why would that go on a 'lens map'?? Lens map is for things heading to production, not gleams in designers eyes that might never see the light of day.

And there are 6 on the road map not yet released. Plus the new ones already released. Did you even look at the map?

Duh. I'm talking about the official lens road map. There are only one lens.
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens/images/K_Mount_Lens.pdf

See?

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infoomatic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 255	Originally posted by Kerrowdown I believe it is... but my “Gorgeous Lady” (SMC Pentax-A* 200mm F2.8 ED) most certainly is. I just happened to find a "like new" FA* 200mm f/2.8, I have never seen one on ebay but here at the local flee market. I really scratched my head about buying or not buying, but I did buy it and its a real gem. I have used it twice on my Sony A7-II and I really really like the results. Could not find too much information on the net about the quality of the lens. I think it's just like my FA* 85mm but in longer, a lens with character. Will open (there is not even a sample image thread!) a thread soon, and I am really looking forward to using it on the K-1

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Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Originally posted by sculptor666 mmmake it mmmacro That would certainly make it stand out! Give it special near focus capabilities, and it would have something the f2.8 zoom lenses don't.

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rlatjsrud Guest	They should post the official lens road map tho.

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jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by rlatjsrud They should post the official lens road map tho. Here you go: 2016 Pentax Full Frame Lens Roadmaps - CP+ 2016 \| PentaxForums.com

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rlatjsrud Guest	Originally posted by jatrax Here you go: 2016 Pentax Full Frame Lens Roadmaps - CP+ 2016 \| PentaxForums.com Only one lens? They didn't even post new lenses to the lens road map yet. 200mm didn't even mentioned.

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jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by rlatjsrud 200mm didn't even mentioned. What 200mm? They filed a patent. Doesn't mean there will ever be a lens using it and even if so might be 5 years away. Why would that go on a 'lens map'?? Lens map is for things heading to production, not gleams in designers eyes that might never see the light of day. Originally posted by rlatjsrud Only one lens? And there are 6 on the road map not yet released. Plus the new ones already released. Did you even look at the map?

04-24-2016, 09:28 PM	#30
rlatjsrud Guest	Originally posted by jatrax What 200mm? They filed a patent. Doesn't mean there will ever be a lens using it and even if so might be 5 years away. Why would that go on a 'lens map'?? Lens map is for things heading to production, not gleams in designers eyes that might never see the light of day. And there are 6 on the road map not yet released. Plus the new ones already released. Did you even look at the map? Duh. I'm talking about the official lens road map. There are only one lens. http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens/images/K_Mount_Lens.pdf See?