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06-14-2016, 08:50 AM   #46
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Not in the list this week. So maybe no sales due to no production because of the earthquake.

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Dropped a little on kakaku too, but still #7:
http://kakaku.com/camera/digital-slr-camera/ranking_0049/
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K-1 back in top 80 on BCN, ranking 73 last week (up from 94)

??????????????? - BCN?????????
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QuoteOriginally posted by davidsladek Quote
K-1 back in top 80 on BCN, ranking 73 last week (up from 94)

??????????????? - BCN?????????
Well that are maybe 100 sold units or so.

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This is the K-1 we're talking about. It's over 9000.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
This is the K-1 we're talking about. It's over 9000.
It's a week ranking.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Well that are maybe 100 sold units or so.
What's your problem, Ron?
Anything else to do than downplaying anything Pentax related ?
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QuoteOriginally posted by thibs Quote
What's your problem, Ron?
Anything else to do than downplaying anything Pentax related ?
I have no problem. It's about sales for one week in Japanese market. What is your problem?

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He's still upset that Ricoh Imaging didn't kill the K-1, as he recommended. He had this great plan about killing the K-mount and making Ricoh Imaging an exclusive Theta company
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
He's still upset that Ricoh Imaging didn't kill the K-1, as he recommended. He had this great plan about killing the K-mount and making Ricoh Imaging an exclusive Theta company
This ranking is about weekly sales. There is no accumulation in it. Numbers vary a lot. If you don't understand that system, that is fine with me. It's just not my problem that you don't understand it.
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No, the problem here is that you made up some low number which can't be considered even an educated guess. You're not even trying to figure out how much of the planned ~1750 units/week production was sold on the Japanese market.
Not that BCN Ranking covers the entire Japanese market. It doesn't, and it's not even using statistical sampling methods.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
No, the problem here is that you made up some low number which can't be considered even an educated guess. You're not even trying to figure out how much of the planned ~1750 units/week production was sold on the Japanese market.
Not that BCN Ranking covers the entire Japanese market. It doesn't, and it's not even using statistical sampling methods.
So when bcn say's that Ricoh had a 6,7% (if I recall this good) marketshare in dslr last year, we believe them and now it's just a Number. Being #73 means a marketshare at or under 1%, so that is very low. It's just last week. Maybe production is low due to the earthquake giving not many sensors to make camera's with. Maybe just some more export, but I don't see them coming overhere. My "made up" number is a very educated guess. It can be different if most sales are with stores not connected to bcn, but then it is strange that it wasn't last year so. If it makes you sleep better, Nikon D610 and Nikon D750 body's sold less then K-1.
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Please remember me, when did I ever said that BCN Ranking's data is statistically representative for the entire Japan?
Also, explain how do you make the conversion between the position in the said ranking and market share. Though a planned volume of 7,000 units per month is about 1% of the monthly DSLR production, so what you call "very low" is actually what's planned. And the overall demand is larger than that. And the distribution on regions is not uniform (I bet a proportionally larger number of units were allocated for the Japanese market).

You are the one trying to convince people that the K-1 isn't selling. I'm only waiting for mine.
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It's a top 80. So if all sold equal (wich they don't, that's why they have a ranking), and there where no other options ranked lower (wich there are) then they all had a marketshare of 1,25 %. Not difficult. So being at the end of the line having 1 % is closing in on a very positive assumption (so I think it is less then that for this week). Making the count from an other side. The market for Japan is 900.000 units dslr a year, making it 17.300 for one week. If all 80 had the same sale, but every lower ranking was 1 unit less sales..... 17.300/80 - 72 = 144 units. Remember that there are more models ranked lower then #80 (like K-1 last week) and that some steps down the ranking take a jump more then 1 less unit sold.......... I think that my guess of 100 units is not that far off (give or take 20).
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Ron just upset they didn't use APS-H in the K-1.
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