Q-s1 discontinued. The end of Q?

D1N0 · 05-14-2016, 11:26 AM

Ricoh WG-M1 and Pentax Q-S1 no longer in production

or is a Q-s2 coming? The Q is really in need of more connectivity.

Biro · 05-14-2016, 11:32 AM

And we have a winner! I saw this as well. I was wondering how long it would take before the first "end of Q" post would be made. We have our answer.

D1N0 · 05-14-2016, 11:37 AM

Yeah and as usual I looked at digicame info later.

The store that anounced it already retracted:
"The PENTAX WG-M1 and the PENTAX Q-S1 various set" regarding the wording correction "was we tweet as" production completed ", to be exact It seems useless and does not represent a" complete product ". In other words, is that of a not associated with = production and sales from the manufacturer has been completed in the sales channels which we belong. "

I do expect an announcement from Ricoh in the second half of May though. They usually have one.

Biro · 05-14-2016, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

I do expect an announcement from Ricoh in the second half of May though. They usually have one.

Ricoh should have something to say about the Q before too long. Only a few months ago, Ricoh officials described the Q system as "current." And we know it does quite well in Japan. So I can't help but think there'll be more Q's of some type coming.

Adam · 05-14-2016, 01:52 PM

I don't think they'd drop the line altogether. Let's just hope they give us some new hardware!

**BigMackCam** · 05-14-2016, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Adam

I don't think they'd drop the line altogether. Let's just hope they give us some new hardware!

Yes, it would be sad to see it come to an end. As a late starter with the Q system, I've become very fond of my Q7 and the few lenses I own. A really capable little package

RonHendriks1966 · 05-14-2016, 02:58 PM

I found only one shop having Q-S1 in stock overhere. The Q is not in the orderbook for shops to stock for some time now. So maybe they have some stock to keep Q alive in some markets, or make a second run on the Q-S1. Maybe one new body for photokina, but I don't know if sales are big enough to make a profit for such a new body to make sales over the coming 2 years.

Pioneer · 05-14-2016, 04:56 PM

Although I am very sad to hear this I am not too surprised. The Q would have been pulling sales from Ricoh's own smaller cameras.

Based on what has been done Ricoh just finished up and sold the products that were in the pipeline when they purchased Pentax. They never really tried to take advantage of the smaller system idea.

No chops to step out and take a gamble.

bobmaxja · 05-14-2016, 05:25 PM - **1 Like**

Let's wait and see. Speculation is horrible. Ricoh own them and will make a statement soon, not any Pentax forum members.

JPT · 05-14-2016, 07:13 PM

It's completely normal that the Q-S1 would head towards discontinuation around now. It's not just Yaotomi that is saying this. Another camera shop in Tokyo has similar wording on their website. I've also noticed that prices on the Q lenses have dropped by about 20% recently. The wide angle zoom almost looks like good value now at 33,000 yen.

It doesn't really say much about whether Ricoh will continue the line or not. In fact, they mentioned in an interview around a year ago that they were continuing with the Q line, but their attention is on FF and 645 for now. That is a plausible explanation for why things have been quiet, and I don't see any reason to doubt what they say.

Normally Ricoh makes some consumer camera announcements around this year, but there is a chance that any successor camera might be delayed because of the Kumamoto earthquake. It seems that a number of other mirrorless cameras are likely to be affected. So, I don't think it makes sense to get panicked about a camera going out of production without a replacement at this particular moment in time. The last time there was a big earthquake in 2011, there was a period of a few months where the K-r was basically sold out without a successor announced. Eventually the K-01 and the K-30 came out, and K-mount lives on.

totsmuyco · 05-14-2016, 09:04 PM

I haven't had any experience with the Q line and I was hoping to use it for street photography. However, what stopped me from buying one was I couldn't get any data as to how big is the sensor of Q cameras. Is it bigger or smaller than m4/3? Just would like to know what I missed.

reh321 · 05-14-2016, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by totsmuyco

I haven't had any experience with the Q line and I was hoping to use it for street photography. However, what stopped me from buying one was I couldn't get any data as to how big is the sensor of Q cameras. Is it bigger or smaller than m4/3? Just would like to know what I missed.

An m4/3 camera has a crop factor of 2 while the Q-7 and Q-S1 have crop factors of roughly 4.7, and the original Q and Q-10 have crop factors of roughly 5.4.

That is, the m4/3 sensor is more than twice the size {in each dimension} of the sensor in the Q-7 and Q-S1 {and the sensor in the original Q and Q-10 is even smaller}

totsmuyco · 05-14-2016, 09:30 PM

Thanks reh321.

surfar · 05-14-2016, 09:33 PM

The QS1 was releasing in August 2014 and Ricoh said recently that line is alive and part of their future plans, so expect a new version soon.

The WG-M2 was released in march 2016, so no need to produce the old model.

GateCityRadio · 05-14-2016, 10:07 PM

I would like to see an APS-C mirrorless with a fully functional adapter for K-mount....

05-14-2016, 11:26 AM	#1
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05-14-2016, 11:32 AM	#2
Biro Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,200	And we have a winner! I saw this as well. I was wondering how long it would take before the first "end of Q" post would be made. We have our answer.

05-14-2016, 11:37 AM	#3
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802 Original Poster	Yeah and as usual I looked at digicame info later. The store that anounced it already retracted: "The PENTAX WG-M1 and the PENTAX Q-S1 various set" regarding the wording correction "was we tweet as" production completed ", to be exact It seems useless and does not represent a" complete product ". In other words, is that of a not associated with = production and sales from the manufacturer has been completed in the sales channels which we belong. " I do expect an announcement from Ricoh in the second half of May though. They usually have one.

05-14-2016, 01:52 PM	#4
Biro Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,200	Originally posted by D1N0 I do expect an announcement from Ricoh in the second half of May though. They usually have one. Ricoh should have something to say about the Q before too long. Only a few months ago, Ricoh officials described the Q system as "current." And we know it does quite well in Japan. So I can't help but think there'll be more Q's of some type coming.

05-14-2016, 02:44 PM	#6
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,695	Originally posted by Adam I don't think they'd drop the line altogether. Let's just hope they give us some new hardware! Yes, it would be sad to see it come to an end. As a late starter with the Q system, I've become very fond of my Q7 and the few lenses I own. A really capable little package

05-14-2016, 02:58 PM	#7
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	I found only one shop having Q-S1 in stock overhere. The Q is not in the orderbook for shops to stock for some time now. So maybe they have some stock to keep Q alive in some markets, or make a second run on the Q-S1. Maybe one new body for photokina, but I don't know if sales are big enough to make a profit for such a new body to make sales over the coming 2 years.

05-14-2016, 04:56 PM	#8
Pioneer Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wandering the Streets Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,411	Although I am very sad to hear this I am not too surprised. The Q would have been pulling sales from Ricoh's own smaller cameras. Based on what has been done Ricoh just finished up and sold the products that were in the pipeline when they purchased Pentax. They never really tried to take advantage of the smaller system idea. No chops to step out and take a gamble.

05-14-2016, 05:25 PM - 1 Like	#9
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	Let's wait and see. Speculation is horrible. Ricoh own them and will make a statement soon, not any Pentax forum members.

05-14-2016, 07:13 PM	#10
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	It's completely normal that the Q-S1 would head towards discontinuation around now. It's not just Yaotomi that is saying this. Another camera shop in Tokyo has similar wording on their website. I've also noticed that prices on the Q lenses have dropped by about 20% recently. The wide angle zoom almost looks like good value now at 33,000 yen. It doesn't really say much about whether Ricoh will continue the line or not. In fact, they mentioned in an interview around a year ago that they were continuing with the Q line, but their attention is on FF and 645 for now. That is a plausible explanation for why things have been quiet, and I don't see any reason to doubt what they say. Normally Ricoh makes some consumer camera announcements around this year, but there is a chance that any successor camera might be delayed because of the Kumamoto earthquake. It seems that a number of other mirrorless cameras are likely to be affected. So, I don't think it makes sense to get panicked about a camera going out of production without a replacement at this particular moment in time. The last time there was a big earthquake in 2011, there was a period of a few months where the K-r was basically sold out without a successor announced. Eventually the K-01 and the K-30 came out, and K-mount lives on.

05-14-2016, 09:04 PM	#11
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	I haven't had any experience with the Q line and I was hoping to use it for street photography. However, what stopped me from buying one was I couldn't get any data as to how big is the sensor of Q cameras. Is it bigger or smaller than m4/3? Just would like to know what I missed.

05-14-2016, 09:15 PM	#12
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by totsmuyco I haven't had any experience with the Q line and I was hoping to use it for street photography. However, what stopped me from buying one was I couldn't get any data as to how big is the sensor of Q cameras. Is it bigger or smaller than m4/3? Just would like to know what I missed. An m4/3 camera has a crop factor of 2 while the Q-7 and Q-S1 have crop factors of roughly 4.7, and the original Q and Q-10 have crop factors of roughly 5.4. That is, the m4/3 sensor is more than twice the size {in each dimension} of the sensor in the Q-7 and Q-S1 {and the sensor in the original Q and Q-10 is even smaller}

05-14-2016, 09:30 PM	#13
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Thanks reh321.

05-14-2016, 09:33 PM	#14
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	The QS1 was releasing in August 2014 and Ricoh said recently that line is alive and part of their future plans, so expect a new version soon. The WG-M2 was released in march 2016, so no need to produce the old model.

05-14-2016, 10:07 PM	#15
GateCityRadio Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Greensboro,NC Posts: 503	I would like to see an APS-C mirrorless with a fully functional adapter for K-mount....