Pentax K-70 camera registered by the Korean Radio Research Agency

mee · 05-23-2016, 08:50 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Edgar_in_Indy

Apparently you're not very familiar with what the K-30 and K-50 were. They contained almost all the performance and features of the flagship APS-C camera, but in a less-expensive, less-rugged body without some of the niceties such as a second dial and top LCD. And the body was also smaller and lighter than the flagship camera.

So when somebody hopes that the K-70 will provide most of the performance/features of the K-3 II but in smaller/lighter/less expensive body, then they're really just hoping that it continues in the tradition of the K-30 and K-50. So I'm not sure why you think that's so funny.

I owned a K-30. it was in no way, shape, or form a K-5 II. The K-30 was lacking 14-bit RAW, the faster burst, deeper buffer, lcd top panel, mag alloy body, battery grip support, air gapless rear panel, and quieter, faster shutter to name a few things.

richandfleur · 05-23-2016, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by mee

I owned a K-30. it was in no way, shape, or form a K-5 II. The K-30 was lacking 14-bit RAW, the faster burst, deeper buffer, lcd top panel, mag alloy body, battery grip support, air gapless rear panel, and quieter, faster shutter to name a few things.

Yep that's where I see the differentiation between the 'pro' and 'consumer' lines in APS-C land.

I wonder if we'll see a similar split over time in the 645 and FF sensor lands also?

The question remains I guess, as to how you progress the K-70 and K-S3 consumer models, without encroaching on the pro model range of the K-3ii and K-4 eventually. (Hope they do a K-3 mk iii

)

RonHendriks1966 · 05-23-2016, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

I will be (pleasantly) surprised if a K-70 has PixelShift as I consider that a flagship feature.

Originally posted by Not a Number

I don't see the fully articulated screen (ala K-1) as anything but a flagship feature either.

Perhaps a flippy screen ala K-S2 without the selfie button or an articulated screen ala 645Z.

I think the sensor of the K-1 makes it the flagship.

K-70 should be the light Weight high performance camera in 12-bit raw.

jeallen01 · 05-24-2016, 12:56 AM

I've got a K-3, K-5 and K-30 - and K-30 is often my walkabout body because it is noticeable smaller and lighter than the other two, and it takes AA's which it occasionally handy when I'm somewhere where I might not be able to charge the standard battery (or I leave the charger behind - which I did when we went to Thailand

). The only things I miss from time to time are the larger buffers and higher frame rates of the other two bodies, and occasionally the top screen because that allows me to check the basic exposure settings without delving into the rear screen menus before I start shooting.

I've got biggish hands and the K-S2 body is too small for me, and I never felt the need to "upgrade" to it, but the tilting screen looks to handy at times (I rarely if ever use live view because of poor eyesight "accommodation" issues due to my age, and reflections issues - but I appreciate that 90% of camera/camera-phone users now do!).

Therefore I would hope that the K-70, or whatever it may be called, is not (much?) smaller than the K-30/K-50, and has some of those "missing features" (although I don't hold out any hope for a top screen). FWIW, I was looking to buy something the size of the K-S2, I'd be looking more in the micro four-thirds direction, but I'm not so happy with 4:3 aspect ratio as the 3:2 of the Pentaxes,

Edgar_in_Indy · 05-24-2016, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by mee

I owned a K-30. it was in no way, shape, or form a K-5 II. The K-30 was lacking 14-bit RAW, the faster burst, deeper buffer, lcd top panel, mag alloy body, battery grip support, air gapless rear panel, and quieter, faster shutter to name a few things.

Yeah, I didn't say the K-30 was a K-5 II and that the cameras were identical. The K-30 also cost a lot less. You basically just repeated my post, in more detail.

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

I think the sensor of the K-1 makes it the flagship.

K-70 should be the light Weight high performance camera in 12-bit raw.

Exactly.

f22 · 05-24-2016, 05:16 AM

A fully-articulated screen comes in handy, just like having a built-in flash does. I've appreciated having it when I use a tripod, or the camera is at an awkward angle where composing with the viewfinder is impossible. But a fully-articulated should be implemented from now on because it offers more positioning for such things than just the tilting. I typically use the viewfinder....

Edgar_in_Indy · 05-24-2016, 06:26 AM

Did they get rid of the K-30's glossy "Crystal" finish with the K-50? I saw a white K-50 on display at Target a while back, and it had a dull finish that I didn't like at all. If so, then I hope they bring back the glossy finishes for the K-70.

thibs · 05-24-2016, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by Edgar_in_Indy

Did they get rid of the K-30's glossy "Crystal" finish with the K-50? I saw a white K-50 on display at Target a while back, and it had a dull finish that I didn't like at all. If so, then I hope they bring back the glossy finishes for the K-70.

Afaict, the black is a usual matte black.

rangercarp · 05-24-2016, 09:28 AM

I wish Pentax would be more consistent with their naming, but that has not been the case. Entry level: K100d, K200d, Km, Kx, Kr, K500, KS1.

I wonder if the K70 could be the K3ii replacement. Now that full frame is using single digits, they could be going back to double digits for semi-pro APS-C ala K10d and K20d. That leaves KS_ for entry level and mid range as it is currently with KS1 and KS2.

Ultimately, Pentax has given us ample opportunity to question their naming convention.

Kunzite · 05-24-2016, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by rangercarp

I wonder if the K70 could be the K3ii replacement.

No.
Wait.

rangercarp · 05-24-2016, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

No. Wait.

You know something?

Kunzite · 05-24-2016, 09:41 AM

Let's say I'm very good at guessing

Except I can't guess when I'll get my K-1

rangercarp · 05-24-2016, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Let's say I'm very good at guessing

I gave up on guessing when it comes to Pentax naming. Before anybody calls me out because I just guessed the k70 would be the K3ii replacement, let me make it clear, that was simply speculation of one possibility, and not my guess of what I expect to happen. Here is what I expect to happen: The K70 will either be an entry level, mid-range, or pro-level, APS-C dslr. Unless it is full-frame. Or mirrorless

Kunzite · 05-24-2016, 10:05 AM

I'm not accusing you of anything, please don't misunderstand.

D1N0 · 05-24-2016, 10:30 AM

Well it has a K in it so it's not a q or a 645. K30>K50>K70 ehmmm well dunno? Mid level wr aps-c 20/24mp two control wheel no top lcd 1/6000 second 12bit raw files camera now with wifi and articulating back lcd

05-24-2016, 04:45 AM	#80
Edgar_in_Indy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,685	Originally posted by mee I owned a K-30. it was in no way, shape, or form a K-5 II. The K-30 was lacking 14-bit RAW, the faster burst, deeper buffer, lcd top panel, mag alloy body, battery grip support, air gapless rear panel, and quieter, faster shutter to name a few things. Yeah, I didn't say the K-30 was a K-5 II and that the cameras were identical. The K-30 also cost a lot less. You basically just repeated my post, in more detail. Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 I think the sensor of the K-1 makes it the flagship. K-70 should be the light Weight high performance camera in 12-bit raw. Exactly. Last edited by Edgar_in_Indy; 05-24-2016 at 06:05 AM.

05-24-2016, 05:16 AM	#81
f22 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 117	A fully-articulated screen comes in handy, just like having a built-in flash does. I've appreciated having it when I use a tripod, or the camera is at an awkward angle where composing with the viewfinder is impossible. But a fully-articulated should be implemented from now on because it offers more positioning for such things than just the tilting. I typically use the viewfinder.... Attached Images Last edited by f22; 05-24-2016 at 05:47 AM.

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05-23-2016, 08:50 PM - 1 Like	#76
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by Edgar_in_Indy Apparently you're not very familiar with what the K-30 and K-50 were. They contained almost all the performance and features of the flagship APS-C camera, but in a less-expensive, less-rugged body without some of the niceties such as a second dial and top LCD. And the body was also smaller and lighter than the flagship camera. So when somebody hopes that the K-70 will provide most of the performance/features of the K-3 II but in smaller/lighter/less expensive body, then they're really just hoping that it continues in the tradition of the K-30 and K-50. So I'm not sure why you think that's so funny. I owned a K-30. it was in no way, shape, or form a K-5 II. The K-30 was lacking 14-bit RAW, the faster burst, deeper buffer, lcd top panel, mag alloy body, battery grip support, air gapless rear panel, and quieter, faster shutter to name a few things.

05-23-2016, 09:19 PM	#77
richandfleur Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand Photos: Albums Posts: 1,788	Originally posted by mee I owned a K-30. it was in no way, shape, or form a K-5 II. The K-30 was lacking 14-bit RAW, the faster burst, deeper buffer, lcd top panel, mag alloy body, battery grip support, air gapless rear panel, and quieter, faster shutter to name a few things. Yep that's where I see the differentiation between the 'pro' and 'consumer' lines in APS-C land. I wonder if we'll see a similar split over time in the 645 and FF sensor lands also? The question remains I guess, as to how you progress the K-70 and K-S3 consumer models, without encroaching on the pro model range of the K-3ii and K-4 eventually. (Hope they do a K-3 mk iii )

05-23-2016, 11:44 PM	#78
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by monochrome I will be (pleasantly) surprised if a K-70 has PixelShift as I consider that a flagship feature. Originally posted by Not a Number I don't see the fully articulated screen (ala K-1) as anything but a flagship feature either. Perhaps a flippy screen ala K-S2 without the selfie button or an articulated screen ala 645Z. I think the sensor of the K-1 makes it the flagship. K-70 should be the light Weight high performance camera in 12-bit raw.

05-24-2016, 12:56 AM	#79
jeallen01 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,697	I've got a K-3, K-5 and K-30 - and K-30 is often my walkabout body because it is noticeable smaller and lighter than the other two, and it takes AA's which it occasionally handy when I'm somewhere where I might not be able to charge the standard battery (or I leave the charger behind - which I did when we went to Thailand ). The only things I miss from time to time are the larger buffers and higher frame rates of the other two bodies, and occasionally the top screen because that allows me to check the basic exposure settings without delving into the rear screen menus before I start shooting. I've got biggish hands and the K-S2 body is too small for me, and I never felt the need to "upgrade" to it, but the tilting screen looks to handy at times (I rarely if ever use live view because of poor eyesight "accommodation" issues due to my age, and reflections issues - but I appreciate that 90% of camera/camera-phone users now do!). Therefore I would hope that the K-70, or whatever it may be called, is not (much?) smaller than the K-30/K-50, and has some of those "missing features" (although I don't hold out any hope for a top screen). FWIW, I was looking to buy something the size of the K-S2, I'd be looking more in the micro four-thirds direction, but I'm not so happy with 4:3 aspect ratio as the 3:2 of the Pentaxes,

05-24-2016, 06:26 AM	#82
Edgar_in_Indy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,685	Did they get rid of the K-30's glossy "Crystal" finish with the K-50? I saw a white K-50 on display at Target a while back, and it had a dull finish that I didn't like at all. If so, then I hope they bring back the glossy finishes for the K-70.

05-24-2016, 09:09 AM	#83
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Edgar_in_Indy Did they get rid of the K-30's glossy "Crystal" finish with the K-50? I saw a white K-50 on display at Target a while back, and it had a dull finish that I didn't like at all. If so, then I hope they bring back the glossy finishes for the K-70. Afaict, the black is a usual matte black.

05-24-2016, 09:28 AM	#84
rangercarp Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Southern Michigan Posts: 437	I wish Pentax would be more consistent with their naming, but that has not been the case. Entry level: K100d, K200d, Km, Kx, Kr, K500, KS1. I wonder if the K70 could be the K3ii replacement. Now that full frame is using single digits, they could be going back to double digits for semi-pro APS-C ala K10d and K20d. That leaves KS_ for entry level and mid range as it is currently with KS1 and KS2. Ultimately, Pentax has given us ample opportunity to question their naming convention.

05-24-2016, 09:31 AM	#85
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by rangercarp I wonder if the K70 could be the K3ii replacement. No. Wait.

05-24-2016, 09:39 AM	#86
rangercarp Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Southern Michigan Posts: 437	Originally posted by Kunzite No. Wait. You know something?

05-24-2016, 09:41 AM	#87
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Let's say I'm very good at guessing Except I can't guess when I'll get my K-1

05-24-2016, 09:50 AM	#88
rangercarp Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Southern Michigan Posts: 437	Originally posted by Kunzite Let's say I'm very good at guessing I gave up on guessing when it comes to Pentax naming. Before anybody calls me out because I just guessed the k70 would be the K3ii replacement, let me make it clear, that was simply speculation of one possibility, and not my guess of what I expect to happen. Here is what I expect to happen: The K70 will either be an entry level, mid-range, or pro-level, APS-C dslr. Unless it is full-frame. Or mirrorless

05-24-2016, 10:05 AM	#89
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I'm not accusing you of anything, please don't misunderstand.

05-24-2016, 10:30 AM	#90
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Well it has a K in it so it's not a q or a 645. K30>K50>K70 ehmmm well dunno? Mid level wr aps-c 20/24mp two control wheel no top lcd 1/6000 second 12bit raw files camera now with wifi and articulating back lcd