Sigma 85mm F1.4 discontinued

gorme · 09-26-2016, 06:38 AM

That's a nice insight, thank you very much for that asahi man ! It's sad to see Sigma leaving K-mount, especially on 'key' lenses like the 85mm...

**pres589** · 09-26-2016, 07:27 AM

It seems surprising that they won't target any areas where Pentax currently lacks with some recent lenses. Like the 20 1.4, this 85 1.4, etc. Just a few lenses to stay in the K-mount arena.

Curious times.

Class A · 09-26-2016, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by pres589

Like the 20 1.4...

I'd buy that one (or the 24/1.4) immediately.

Pentax had the FA* 24/2.0 and one can find it used sometimes, but so far I have never seen a copy that produced convincing images anywhere near wide open.

totsmuyco · 09-26-2016, 11:54 PM

If that 500 will be available for Pentax, count me in.

redpit · 09-27-2016, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by totsmuyco

If that 500 will be available for Pentax, count me in.

It won't be. The question is when Pentax will give us her DFA 500 (or something similar)! That is what will happen first, but when is the big question!

D1N0 · 09-27-2016, 02:41 AM

There is the DA 560 which will work on full frame.

redpit · 09-27-2016, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

There is the DA 560 which will work on full frame.

You're right but I'm hoping for something shorter (in size), brighter and accompanied with 2 excellent TCs.

D1N0 · 09-27-2016, 03:20 AM

It would be easier to just get a Nikon Body with the new Sigma lens.

totsmuyco · 09-27-2016, 03:26 AM

Getting a Nikon body is not an option. But like redpit, I want something shorter, brighter and cheaper.

D1N0 · 09-27-2016, 03:32 AM

This is brighter if not shorter: PENTAX SMCP- FA 600mm f/4 ED(IF) Lens | eBay

totsmuyco · 09-27-2016, 03:59 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

This is brighter if not shorter: PENTAX SMCP- FA 600mm f/4 ED(IF) Lens | eBay

Holy mackerel. The size is monstrous

redpit · 09-27-2016, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

This is brighter if not shorter: PENTAX SMCP- FA 600mm f/4 ED(IF) Lens | eBay

No offence but your comment is misplaced. If I wanted a non Pentax solution I would have gone that way. I was in Nikon camp prior to Pentax after all. I'm not asking from Pentax to change its strategy and offer me the best video in the market in their still cameras, that would be unwise. All I'm asking is the refurbished version of the lens you posted above, with improved and lighter optics-construction and a faster USM motor... So I'm asking something that Pentax is good at and not something that is very unlikely to happen...

Mistral75 · 09-27-2016, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by totsmuyco

Holy mackerel. The size is monstrous

FA★ 600mm f/4 is shorter (457mm vs 522mm), albeit thicker (176mm vs 130mm) and much heavier (6.8kg vs 3kg) than DA 560mm f/5.6.

D1N0 · 09-27-2016, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by redpit

No offence but your comment is misplaced. If I wanted a non Pentax solution I would have gone that way. I was in Nikon camp prior to Pentax after all. I'm not asking from Pentax to change its strategy and offer me the best video in the market in their still cameras, that would be unwise. All I'm asking is the refurbished version of the lens you posted above, with improved and lighter optics-construction and a faster USM motor... So I'm asking something that Pentax is good at and not something that is very unlikely to happen...

When you look prices of this long bright glass, a camera body should be an afterthought. It is just practical not to wait for a lens that might not happen in your lifetime. The FA* 600 was developed by an entirely different company (long before the Hoya Merger and even longer before Ricoh took over) on the AF wave of the eighties and early nineties.

redpit · 09-27-2016, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

When you look prices of this long bright glass, a camera body should be an afterthought. It is just practical not to wait for a lens that might not happen in your lifetime. The FA* 600 was developed by an entirely different company (long before the Hoya Merger and even longer before Ricoh took over) on the AF wave of the eighties and early nineties.

It might be the case as you describe it. I believe that Pentax-Ricoh has made a new opening to the market offering prime level as they call it products and I expect that this will include some serious prime ultra tele or tele glass. In case there won't be such an offering "soon enough" for me I have my plan B. In any case I'm not from those photographers that just sit and wait for new equipment as if the exisitng is restricting or useless. I do my job with my exisitng equipment (totally satisfied) and I have set my goals-seen what could give me a little more boost for my kind of photography

09-26-2016, 07:45 AM	#123
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by pres589 Like the 20 1.4... I'd buy that one (or the 24/1.4) immediately. Pentax had the FA* 24/2.0 and one can find it used sometimes, but so far I have never seen a copy that produced convincing images anywhere near wide open. Last edited by Class A; 09-26-2016 at 07:50 AM.

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redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,858	Originally posted by totsmuyco If that 500 will be available for Pentax, count me in. It won't be. The question is when Pentax will give us her DFA 500 (or something similar)! That is what will happen first, but when is the big question!

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D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802 Original Poster	There is the DA 560 which will work on full frame.

09-27-2016, 03:06 AM	#127
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,858	Originally posted by D1N0 There is the DA 560 which will work on full frame. You're right but I'm hoping for something shorter (in size), brighter and accompanied with 2 excellent TCs.

09-27-2016, 03:20 AM	#128
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802 Original Poster	It would be easier to just get a Nikon Body with the new Sigma lens.

09-27-2016, 03:26 AM	#129
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Getting a Nikon body is not an option. But like redpit, I want something shorter, brighter and cheaper.

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09-27-2016, 03:59 AM	#131
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by D1N0 This is brighter if not shorter: PENTAX SMCP- FA 600mm f/4 ED(IF) Lens \| eBay Holy mackerel. The size is monstrous

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redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,858	Originally posted by D1N0 This is brighter if not shorter: PENTAX SMCP- FA 600mm f/4 ED(IF) Lens \| eBay No offence but your comment is misplaced. If I wanted a non Pentax solution I would have gone that way. I was in Nikon camp prior to Pentax after all. I'm not asking from Pentax to change its strategy and offer me the best video in the market in their still cameras, that would be unwise. All I'm asking is the refurbished version of the lens you posted above, with improved and lighter optics-construction and a faster USM motor... So I'm asking something that Pentax is good at and not something that is very unlikely to happen...

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09-27-2016, 04:50 AM	#134
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802 Original Poster	Originally posted by redpit No offence but your comment is misplaced. If I wanted a non Pentax solution I would have gone that way. I was in Nikon camp prior to Pentax after all. I'm not asking from Pentax to change its strategy and offer me the best video in the market in their still cameras, that would be unwise. All I'm asking is the refurbished version of the lens you posted above, with improved and lighter optics-construction and a faster USM motor... So I'm asking something that Pentax is good at and not something that is very unlikely to happen... When you look prices of this long bright glass, a camera body should be an afterthought. It is just practical not to wait for a lens that might not happen in your lifetime. The FA* 600 was developed by an entirely different company (long before the Hoya Merger and even longer before Ricoh took over) on the AF wave of the eighties and early nineties.

09-27-2016, 05:05 AM	#135
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,858	Originally posted by D1N0 When you look prices of this long bright glass, a camera body should be an afterthought. It is just practical not to wait for a lens that might not happen in your lifetime. The FA* 600 was developed by an entirely different company (long before the Hoya Merger and even longer before Ricoh took over) on the AF wave of the eighties and early nineties. It might be the case as you describe it. I believe that Pentax-Ricoh has made a new opening to the market offering prime level as they call it products and I expect that this will include some serious prime ultra tele or tele glass. In case there won't be such an offering "soon enough" for me I have my plan B. In any case I'm not from those photographers that just sit and wait for new equipment as if the exisitng is restricting or useless. I do my job with my exisitng equipment (totally satisfied) and I have set my goals-seen what could give me a little more boost for my kind of photography