Sigma 85mm F1.4 discontinued

D1N0 · 05-20-2016, 06:28 AM

https://translate.google.com/translate?ie=UTF8&prev=_t&tl=en&u=http://digica...v8ocm47TxqUkPw

There goes the only AF 85mm F1.4 for the K-1 Hopefully Sigma will bring out the coming ART version in K-mount.

serothis · 05-20-2016, 08:36 AM

If nothing else, hopefully the price of the current 85mm will gone down....right?...knowing my luck probably not.

**newmikey** · 05-20-2016, 08:48 AM

I own this lens and dearly love it. Nothing else I own even comes close on my K-5 IIs so I'm going to hang on to it. It definitely is quite heavy and bulky and its nickname in my house is "the Beast".

**pres589** · 05-20-2016, 11:16 AM

I know the 77 LTD is slightly slower at 1.8 max f-stop, but is the Sigma worth paying extra over the 77 LTD?

HopelessTogger · 05-20-2016, 11:52 AM - **5 Likes**

Truth is, f/1.4 is pretty useless on modern full frame digital. The DoF is so, soooo thin and modern sensors so much better at high ISO performance and noise reduction software advanced, that ultra fast lenses are fairly pointless. They're large, heavy and expensive and in all but a few examples they're quite soft wide open (ironically Sigma Art is generally the exception for wide open sharpness).

I have a K 1.2/50 and the Planar 1.4/85 and I never shoot them wide open anyway, nearly always stopped down to at least f/2. I find slightly slower, much smaller, lighter lenses like the 1.8/77 Ltd to be ideal (although stopped down the Planar is stunning).

I'd sooner the manufacturers produced slightly slower (f/1.8 - f/2) genuine apochromatic lenses.

Winder · 05-20-2016, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by serothis

If nothing else, hopefully the price of the current 85mm will gone down....right?...knowing my luck probably not.

Demand for the 85mm Sigma in K-mount will probably go up until Ricoh releases their own 85mm. It is a very good lens with fast AF.

I'm hoping Tamron releases the 85mm F/1.8 in K-mount with the 35mm and the 45mm.

---------- Post added 05-20-16 at 05:18 PM ----------

Originally posted by pres589

I know the 77 LTD is slightly slower at 1.8 max f-stop, but is the Sigma worth paying extra over the 77 LTD?

Really depends on what you need. I love the 77mm LTD size, but the 85mm Sigma is better IMO.
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/130-lens-sample-photo-archive/153471-sigm...s-samples.html

Mike.P® · 05-21-2016, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by newmikey

I own this lens and dearly love it. Nothing else I own even comes close on my K-5 IIs so I'm going to hang on to it. It definitely is quite heavy and bulky and its nickname in my house is "the Beast".

Likewise mine on my K-5IIs ... and hopefully on a K-1 within the next 6 months.

However I don't tend to give my lenses nicknames as that would be a bit strange .... wouldn't it?

Rupert · 05-21-2016, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Mike.P®

However I don't tend to give my lenses nicknames as that would be a bit strange .... wouldn't it?

Not really...names for squirrels might be though!

I'd love to have the SIgma, but as little as I would use it I think I am going for that Samyang. It is very decent and the price is very reasonable. I would likely only use it for portraits, where AF is not critical.

Regards

**Clinton** · 05-21-2016, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by HopelessTogger

Truth is, f/1.4 is pretty useless on modern full frame digital.

huh???

HopelessTogger · 05-21-2016, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by Clinton

huh???

What does "huh?" mean. I already explained my reasoning and to selectively quote my post is downright rude along with your terse response.

RonHendriks1966 · 05-21-2016, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Clinton

huh???

Originally posted by HopelessTogger

What does "huh?" mean. I already explained my reasoning and to selectively quote my post is downright rude along with your terse response.

Clint just realized the downside to owning a K-1.

HopelessTogger · 05-21-2016, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Clint just realized the downsized to owning a K-1.

Aye! He's a good lad really and I'm just in a bad mood.

D1N0 · 05-21-2016, 01:09 PM

You'll have just as much in focus as on aps-c. Just a lot more out of focus.

**Clinton** · 05-21-2016, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Clint just realized the downside to owning a K-1.

I haven't found one yet

mee · 05-21-2016, 09:07 PM

Now that it is discontinued, this also means authorized repair will have limited parts.. so if yours needs some TLC, I'd probably consider taking care of that now than later..

I sent my Sigma 105mm in for cleaning to CRIS.. they claimed it needed a new front element (huh?) but wouldn't even touch it because it was a discontinued version and thus parts were not readily available.. they just sent it back untouched.

05-20-2016, 06:28 AM	#1
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Sigma 85mm F1.4 discontinued https://translate.google.com/translate?ie=UTF8&prev=_t&tl=en&u=http://digica...v8ocm47TxqUkPw There goes the only AF 85mm F1.4 for the K-1 Hopefully Sigma will bring out the coming ART version in K-mount.

05-20-2016, 11:52 AM - 5 Likes	#5
HopelessTogger Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Roi-et, Thailand Posts: 773	Truth is, f/1.4 is pretty useless on modern full frame digital. The DoF is so, soooo thin and modern sensors so much better at high ISO performance and noise reduction software advanced, that ultra fast lenses are fairly pointless. They're large, heavy and expensive and in all but a few examples they're quite soft wide open (ironically Sigma Art is generally the exception for wide open sharpness). I have a K 1.2/50 and the Planar 1.4/85 and I never shoot them wide open anyway, nearly always stopped down to at least f/2. I find slightly slower, much smaller, lighter lenses like the 1.8/77 Ltd to be ideal (although stopped down the Planar is stunning). I'd sooner the manufacturers produced slightly slower (f/1.8 - f/2) genuine apochromatic lenses. Last edited by HopelessTogger; 05-20-2016 at 12:21 PM.

05-21-2016, 10:33 AM	#11
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by Clinton huh??? Originally posted by HopelessTogger What does "huh?" mean. I already explained my reasoning and to selectively quote my post is downright rude along with your terse response. Clint just realized the downside to owning a K-1. Last edited by RonHendriks1966; 05-21-2016 at 11:57 AM.

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serothis Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 538	If nothing else, hopefully the price of the current 85mm will gone down....right?...knowing my luck probably not.

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newmikey Site Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,287	I own this lens and dearly love it. Nothing else I own even comes close on my K-5 IIs so I'm going to hang on to it. It definitely is quite heavy and bulky and its nickname in my house is "the Beast".

05-20-2016, 11:16 AM	#4
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	I know the 77 LTD is slightly slower at 1.8 max f-stop, but is the Sigma worth paying extra over the 77 LTD?

05-20-2016, 03:15 PM	#6
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by serothis If nothing else, hopefully the price of the current 85mm will gone down....right?...knowing my luck probably not. Demand for the 85mm Sigma in K-mount will probably go up until Ricoh releases their own 85mm. It is a very good lens with fast AF. I'm hoping Tamron releases the 85mm F/1.8 in K-mount with the 35mm and the 45mm. ---------- Post added 05-20-16 at 05:18 PM ---------- Originally posted by pres589 I know the 77 LTD is slightly slower at 1.8 max f-stop, but is the Sigma worth paying extra over the 77 LTD? Really depends on what you need. I love the 77mm LTD size, but the 85mm Sigma is better IMO. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/130-lens-sample-photo-archive/153471-sigm...s-samples.html

05-21-2016, 09:36 AM	#7
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by newmikey I own this lens and dearly love it. Nothing else I own even comes close on my K-5 IIs so I'm going to hang on to it. It definitely is quite heavy and bulky and its nickname in my house is "the Beast". Likewise mine on my K-5IIs ... and hopefully on a K-1 within the next 6 months. However I don't tend to give my lenses nicknames as that would be a bit strange .... wouldn't it?

05-21-2016, 10:06 AM	#8
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	Originally posted by Mike.P® However I don't tend to give my lenses nicknames as that would be a bit strange .... wouldn't it? Not really...names for squirrels might be though! I'd love to have the SIgma, but as little as I would use it I think I am going for that Samyang. It is very decent and the price is very reasonable. I would likely only use it for portraits, where AF is not critical. Regards

05-21-2016, 10:11 AM	#9
Clinton Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,910	Originally posted by HopelessTogger Truth is, f/1.4 is pretty useless on modern full frame digital. huh???

05-21-2016, 10:15 AM	#10
HopelessTogger Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Roi-et, Thailand Posts: 773	Originally posted by Clinton huh??? What does "huh?" mean. I already explained my reasoning and to selectively quote my post is downright rude along with your terse response.

05-21-2016, 10:35 AM	#12
HopelessTogger Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Roi-et, Thailand Posts: 773	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Clint just realized the downsized to owning a K-1. Aye! He's a good lad really and I'm just in a bad mood.

05-21-2016, 01:09 PM	#13
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802 Original Poster	You'll have just as much in focus as on aps-c. Just a lot more out of focus.

05-21-2016, 09:04 PM	#14
Clinton Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,910	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Clint just realized the downside to owning a K-1. I haven't found one yet

05-21-2016, 09:07 PM	#15
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Now that it is discontinued, this also means authorized repair will have limited parts.. so if yours needs some TLC, I'd probably consider taking care of that now than later.. I sent my Sigma 105mm in for cleaning to CRIS.. they claimed it needed a new front element (huh?) but wouldn't even touch it because it was a discontinued version and thus parts were not readily available.. they just sent it back untouched.