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ogl · 09-24-2016, 02:56 AM

There is one more problem with mirrorless MF cameras - overheating of sensor.
Don't be surprised if the camera switch off during shooting.

Mistral75 · 09-24-2016, 03:39 AM

Originally posted by OoKU

The patent show is only cover 33*44

Thank you. End of vain speculations.

Zygonyx · 09-24-2016, 03:43 AM

Thank you too.
And shame on the decision maker, + i really don't understand the size of that zoom....

D1N0 · 09-24-2016, 04:14 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

Starting with the 67 body . . . ??

Sure they can use old bodies but you have to make them digital. There is going to be more room needed at the back for electronics. Maybe a bigger battery for driving the larger shutter and mirror. Placement of modern motors for shutter, mirror and aperture and AF operation. The dimensions are the easy part, to make a decent package is the hard part. I think the best thing Pentax can do is build a mirrorless body with a mirrorless mount module and an SLT module with PDAF (for legacy lenses). You don't use an adapter but change the entire front of the camera.

Mistral75 · 09-24-2016, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

(...) I think the best thing Pentax can do is build a mirrorless body with a mirrorless mount module and an SLT module with PDAF (for legacy lenses). You don't use an adapter but change the entire front of the camera.

Pentax (not Ricoh Imaging at the time) R&D department did study something like that in 2012-2013, just before people from Ricoh took charge of Pentax Ricoh imaging, subsequently renamed Ricoh Imaging. The corresponding short-flanged mount was designated internally as the A mount (A for Ace, superior to K(ing) and Q(ueen), nothing to do with Sony). No news since then.

See https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/235294-new-rumor-pe...ml#post2489804 and https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/235294-new-rumor-pe...ml#post2490168

D1N0 · 09-24-2016, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Pentax (not Ricoh Imaging at the time) R&D department did study something like that in 2012-2013, just before people from Ricoh took charge of Pentax Ricoh imaging, subsequently renamed Ricoh Imaging. The corresponding short-flanged mount was designated internally as the A mount (A for Ace, superior to K(ing) and Q(ueen), nothing to do with Sony). No news since then.

See https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/235294-new-rumor-pe...ml#post2489804 and https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/235294-new-rumor-pe...ml#post2490168

Great minds think alike

The reason I went for SLT is that is is more simple to make and MF wouldn't suffer much from an EVF. You could use the same EVF for both mounts. You would need an automatic calibration mechanism, because of the tight tolerances of pdaf. Easy to do if you use it in conjuction with cdaf.

ogl · 09-24-2016, 06:02 AM

it's big

kenspo · 09-24-2016, 06:08 AM

Thats one ugly battery grip!

Mistral75 · 09-24-2016, 06:27 AM

Originally posted by ogl

it's big

Medium format camera (Fujifilm GFX 50S) with optional battery grip.

Zygonyx · 09-24-2016, 06:28 AM

The battery grip is specially designed to keep your fingers safe from rain

Mistral75 · 09-24-2016, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Thats one ugly battery grip!

Originally posted by Zygonyx

The battery grip is specially designed to keep your fingers safe from rain

Inspired from Konica Minolta Dynax / Maxxum 7/7D. Very handy.

kenspo · 09-24-2016, 06:34 AM

I can see that its handy..hehe..just didn't look very nice :P

ogl · 09-24-2016, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Medium format camera (Fujifilm GFX 50S) with optional battery grip.

Right, because of without battery grip camera battery is not strong.

**ffking** · 09-24-2016, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Inspired from Konica Minolta Dynax / Maxxum 7/7D. Very handy.

funny how things move on - I remember that camera looking quite cool in its day

Mistral75 · 09-24-2016, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Right, because of without battery grip camera battery is not strong.

The high-voltage (10.8V) in-camera battery is already huge.

09-24-2016, 04:49 AM	#275
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by D1N0 (...) I think the best thing Pentax can do is build a mirrorless body with a mirrorless mount module and an SLT module with PDAF (for legacy lenses). You don't use an adapter but change the entire front of the camera. Pentax (not Ricoh Imaging at the time) R&D department did study something like that in 2012-2013, just before people from Ricoh took charge of Pentax Ricoh imaging, subsequently renamed Ricoh Imaging. The corresponding short-flanged mount was designated internally as the A mount (A for Ace, superior to K(ing) and Q(ueen), nothing to do with Sony). No news since then. See https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/235294-new-rumor-pe...ml#post2489804 and https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/235294-new-rumor-pe...ml#post2490168 Last edited by Mistral75; 09-24-2016 at 04:58 AM.

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09-24-2016, 02:56 AM	#271
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	There is one more problem with mirrorless MF cameras - overheating of sensor. Don't be surprised if the camera switch off during shooting.

09-24-2016, 03:39 AM	#272
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by OoKU The patent show is only cover 33*44 Thank you. End of vain speculations.

09-24-2016, 03:43 AM	#273
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Thank you too. And shame on the decision maker, + i really don't understand the size of that zoom....

09-24-2016, 04:14 AM	#274
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by monochrome Starting with the 67 body . . . ?? Sure they can use old bodies but you have to make them digital. There is going to be more room needed at the back for electronics. Maybe a bigger battery for driving the larger shutter and mirror. Placement of modern motors for shutter, mirror and aperture and AF operation. The dimensions are the easy part, to make a decent package is the hard part. I think the best thing Pentax can do is build a mirrorless body with a mirrorless mount module and an SLT module with PDAF (for legacy lenses). You don't use an adapter but change the entire front of the camera.

09-24-2016, 05:18 AM	#276
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by Mistral75 Pentax (not Ricoh Imaging at the time) R&D department did study something like that in 2012-2013, just before people from Ricoh took charge of Pentax Ricoh imaging, subsequently renamed Ricoh Imaging. The corresponding short-flanged mount was designated internally as the A mount (A for Ace, superior to K(ing) and Q(ueen), nothing to do with Sony). No news since then. See https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/235294-new-rumor-pe...ml#post2489804 and https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/235294-new-rumor-pe...ml#post2490168 Great minds think alike The reason I went for SLT is that is is more simple to make and MF wouldn't suffer much from an EVF. You could use the same EVF for both mounts. You would need an automatic calibration mechanism, because of the tight tolerances of pdaf. Easy to do if you use it in conjuction with cdaf.

09-24-2016, 06:02 AM	#277
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	it's big

09-24-2016, 06:08 AM	#278
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Thats one ugly battery grip!

09-24-2016, 06:27 AM	#279
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by ogl it's big Medium format camera (Fujifilm GFX 50S) with optional battery grip.

09-24-2016, 06:28 AM	#280
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	The battery grip is specially designed to keep your fingers safe from rain

09-24-2016, 06:29 AM	#281
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by kenspo Thats one ugly battery grip! Originally posted by Zygonyx The battery grip is specially designed to keep your fingers safe from rain Inspired from Konica Minolta Dynax / Maxxum 7/7D. Very handy.

09-24-2016, 06:34 AM	#282
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	I can see that its handy..hehe..just didn't look very nice :P

09-24-2016, 06:50 AM	#283
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Mistral75 Medium format camera (Fujifilm GFX 50S) with optional battery grip. Right, because of without battery grip camera battery is not strong.

09-24-2016, 07:03 AM	#284
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	Originally posted by Mistral75 Inspired from Konica Minolta Dynax / Maxxum 7/7D. Very handy. funny how things move on - I remember that camera looking quite cool in its day

09-24-2016, 07:04 AM	#285
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by ogl Right, because of without battery grip camera battery is not strong. The high-voltage (10.8V) in-camera battery is already huge.

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