Originally posted by Nicolas06 I say that because I think it, same for you hopefully, thanks
. The problem with example like feature film with iphone is to compare... How much pro work is done with Q on one side, whatever the work and how much pro work is done with many other system... If you draw statistics, you'll find out that the Q is one of the least used. Simple as that. If there to be any proof by example as you argument was, failing to even reference a Q example (you had to look for iphones) and something that people speak of basically because it almost never happen is not an argument. if anything it is a statement on how uncommon and unpractical it is.
First example. I gone to a safari recently. I got K3 + 55-300 + 17-70... I got many shots in the 400-800 iso range, some iso 1600 and of course many 300mm APSC (450mm FF equiv). You notice we speak entry level telezoom lens and I think K30 would have managed just as well. But I had fast reactive AF too. The lenses for that don't exist in the Q and with adapter you loose AF and still get not so nice quality when you need to push the isos.
Second example, I want to isolate the subject. lylrytyr say I don't understand. So I'll give a picture, and ask him for a similar picture wit similar framing. Let's see what subject isolation the Q will provide with its native lenses in comparison.
Third example: Rondec like to make landscapes. Many are with lot of dynamic range. His K1 helped him on that with lot of dynamic range. QS1 dynamic range is low and will require HDR shoots when a simple APSC or FF body would achieve the result in one shot.
Now let's imagine I get an Olympus Pen instead. Like even the Pen EPL6. I get very similar size/weight. It is cheaper. But the sensor is much bigger. If I want a long tele zoom, with AF I can buy it. If I want a fast prime that will give me comparable result to the photo posted above. I can get it. If I go more advance bodies. I get very reactive AF, 4K support, potentially an alternate implementation of pixel shift...
Sure I can do fun stuff with the Q no denying that. But the Q isn't the tool of choice of professionals and doesn't fit many practices. It is nice for fun applications or casual photos. But even then overall it is expensive for the picture quality it offer.
Pentax could have improved the Q a lot if they wanted. Pixel shift, 14bit raw, iso 25 or iso 50 support, AF that work to -3IL, really fast prime f/0.95 prime and f/1.7 zooms, have a full lens line up with a fish, a long tele, and few other specialty lenses. They could have added 4K support, nice video features, they could have ensured you could use it like a go pro... Kind of providing the cool looking interchangeable action/sturdy action cam... There lot of possibility but the latest change that occured long time ago already was a cosmetic change...
How honestly can you expect people to believe and invest into such system?
What part of "fun" is giving you problems??
Nobody claims that the "Q" is professional grade. I'm willing to stipulate that the MFT is closer to professional grade than the "Q" is, but I'm guessing that not many professionals use MFT for their work either - certainly not nearly as many as use APS-C - certainly not nearly as many as use FF.
Let's look at more realistic examples of "fun", from my use of the "Q" beginning when I got my Q-7 in December 2014:
(1) In April 2015, my wife and I visited our daughter in San Diego CA. I had an old Canon Rebel and the Q-7 with me. Our first day there, I discovered that the Q-7 + 01 did much better indoors than my elderly Rebel did, so for the remainder of the trip, I took all my indoors pictures {mostly libraries, old missions, etc, where no sane person would want subject isolation} using the Q-7 + 01.
(2) In May 2015, our second daughter received her Master's Degree. A few weeks before, my Canon Rebel unexpectedly died. This was actually my second Rebel to unexpectedly die on me - when that happened the first time, I was totally unprepared to replace it, so I just automatically bought a second one. This time, even with our daughter's commencement coming up, I announced that I would take my time and look into several possibilities, even with our last Commencement as parents looming, because the Q-7 had proven itself. I took the Q-7 + 06 to the Commencement, and we were all quite satisfied with the pictures I took.
(3) In December 2014, my wife and I had gone to the Madrigal Dinner at the college where she is an administrator. I had taken my Canon Elph because I didn't want to take my large, heavy and noisy DSLR; partway through the dinner, my wife leaned over and said "Those pictures aren't right" - further whispering revealed that the WB correction in the Elph was eliminating the staging color. The next year, December 2015, I took my Q-7 + 06, and shot RAW + SCN(candlelight). After the dinner, I was talking with the woman who had sat directly in front of me {I'd been shooting around her all night}; when I asked her why she'd been using flash, which was guaranteed to wash out the mood lighting, she explained that her five-year-old Nikon wasn't up to the task of taking natural light pictures there. She was very excited when I showed her one of mine - purely by chance, it was of her daughter's solo - so I sent some to her.
(4) December 2015, our entire family began our Christmas celebration by attending a performance here by Straight No Chaser, a professional singing group. Our older daughter, who is a fan of theirs, told us that they had begun as a student group at Indiana University, which has a well-known music school, but had moved to professional success after fans had posted video on U-Tube; thus, they encourage amateur photography, assuming you can get your stuff past the guards at the door. I didn't want to take my bulky K-30, so I took the Q-7 + 06 again {most fans had cell phones}. We had front-row second balcony seats, so I had a good view, but I had to go to high ISO. At first I thought I had a lot of noise in my images, but then I realized most of what I was seeing was a result of the smoke they use to make their lighting work.
(5) February 2016 my wife was part of a group that was "dedicated" during a worship service at our church. Not wanting the clatter-clatter of my K-30 to be an issue, I took my Q-7 + 06 again. With the whisper-quiet leaf lens, no one was even aware I had taken any pictures, but the lady who does publicity was thrilled, because she had thought they didn't have anything from the event.
(6) July 2016 our vacation was in Quebec Province. On our last day in Montreal, I went off on a walk by myself while my wife read, relaxed, and prepared to leave. Since I'd be going over ground we'd already covered several times, I didn't want to take my heavy K-30 kit, but simply slung the small case with my light Q-7 kit over my shoulder. It turned out that I did take several pictures on that adventure, images I wouldn't have had if I'd gone with nothing.
Yes, I know that I could have taken an MFT camera to any of these events, but I have the Q-7 and it did the job. The events listed above are just a fraction of times when I've used the Q-7. The main reason I chose that particular camera is my wife's hobby, bird watching. Most of the pictures I've taken have been in our backyard or otherwise around town, but I also take it on our nature walks together. And this is where an MFT camera could not keep pace with my Q-7, which gives me the equivalent of a 1000mm+ lens at a total kit cost of less than $1000, and it gives much better IQ than I would get with a Canon SX-50 or Nikon P-900 with its 1/2.3" sensor.