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12-02-2016, 05:15 AM   #631
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QuoteOriginally posted by npc Quote
When Ricoh faquired Pentax they were making such statements for a while (about becoming n3) ... for example in one interview Jim Malcom said "No doubt about it. I have no hesitation, in my mind and in my business direction, that in the future—whether it’s three years or five years out—that there will be three dominant imaging companies on a global basis and it will be Canon, Nikon, and Pentax/Ricoh"
Yes, yes he did.

And his failure to arrest the decline of the Pentax US market Is in large measure why Pentax isn't what Ricoh wanted.

The US K-1 rollout was a disaster.

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Asian Markets are going to be more important in the future. There is a growing amount of wealth there. The general populace may still be dirt poor, because of the sheer numbers there is a lot of purchase power. Sadly the Chinese are very brand name focused, so it is good for Canon.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
The US K-1 rollout was a disaster.
What happened?
12-02-2016, 08:26 AM   #634
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Precision Camera probably

12-02-2016, 08:33 AM   #635
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QuoteOriginally posted by FantasticMrFox Quote
What happened?
I think he is being facetious. The K-1 has sold very well in the USA.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
I think he is being facetious. The K-1 has sold very well in the USA.
Nope. Not facetious at all. The USA market is a mess. There isn't even a 'Denver' any more.

K-1 presales were allocated, but one large Dealer continued to accept IOI's - promising 1st-Day ship - until 3 days before release.

They blamed Pentax for not filling their orders. My contacts insist the Dealer knew how (few) units were in their pipe.

I canceled my internet pre-order and bought my K-1 as a walk-in, off the shelf, at a local B&M Dealer.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Nope. Not facetious at all. The USA market is a mess. There isn't even a 'Denver' any more.

K-1 presales were allocated, but one large Dealer continued to accept IOI's - promising 1st-Day ship - until 3 days before release.

They blamed Pentax for not filling their orders. My contacts insist the Dealer knew how (few) units were in their pipe.

I canceled my internet pre-order and bought my K-1 as a walk-in, off the shelf, at a local B&M Dealer.
But those issues don't qualify as a "disaster". With or without Denver, the K-1 sold very well and the bad actions of one dealer, however large, don't change that.
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But those issues don't qualify as a "disaster". With or without Denver, the K-1 sold very well and the bad actions of one dealer, however large, don't change that.
FantasticMrFox is confusing unit sales with my assessment of the process of bringing the K-1 to market by Ricoh Imaging USA. If the K-1 sold well, it did so in spite of RIAC. My understanding is Ricoh is concerned about DSLR sales in the USA.

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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
My understanding is Ricoh is concerned about DSLR sales in the USA.
They should be, but so should Canon & Nikon. There needs to be significant innovation on the DSLR market from all the manufacturers.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
They should be, but so should Canon & Nikon. There needs to be significant innovation on the DSLR market from all the manufacturers.
Perhaps you should have said "innovation on the ILC market"; my belief is that the new EOS-M5 is a small step taken by Canon in case the lower tier ILC market tips radically in the direction of MILC.
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They should be, but so should Canon & Nikon. There needs to be significant innovation on the DSLR market from all the manufacturers.
You won't like Ricoh's next marketing 'innovation'.
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The first Pentax with good picture quality
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The first Pentax with good picture quality
You talk about jpg's straight out of the camera being better then an Iphone? Cool!
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
FantasticMrFox is confusing unit sales with my assessment of the process of bringing the K-1 to market by Ricoh Imaging USA.
He is not. All he did was ask "What happened?" Monochrome must be thinking of someone else
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