rumored Pentax mirrorless camera - something between K1000 and K-01

surfar · 12-07-2016, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

as awful as the Galaxy NX.

How would you know?

Kunzite · 12-07-2016, 05:01 PM

How could I not know? It was obvious the first time I tried to operate a Samsung Galaxy camera - the concept is terribly flawed. And you couldn't even make phone calls with it.

D1N0 · 12-07-2016, 05:24 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mecrox

Fuji's X mount doesn't have IBIS

IBIS is not part of the mount Look at E-mount and m43. They added ibis later.

surfar · 12-07-2016, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

the concept is terribly flawed

In what way?

---------- Post added 12-08-16 at 11:33 AM ----------

Originally posted by Kunzite

It was obvious the first time I tried to operate a Samsung Galaxy camera

Hmmm, you don't know how to use a POINT & SHOOT?

Kunzite · 12-07-2016, 05:34 PM

For one, Android's UI is unsuitable for a camera.

So if I have enough experience to recognize that a camera is flawed, that means I "don't know how to use a POINT & SHOOT"? Try again. And try thinking before posting.

surfar · 12-07-2016, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

you couldn't even make phone calls with it.

You tried to make phone calls with a camera???....y not use a phone?

Kunzite · 12-07-2016, 05:41 PM

Why not, if it has a SIM card and it's running Android?

surfar · 12-07-2016, 05:46 PM

OK, lets find out exactly what you are talking about please?

You tried the first Samsung Galaxy camera? Which was the first "connected" camera? its a point and shoot runs Android 4 point 2(I think)...4.7inch touchscreen. Is that the one you put a Sim card in and thought it could make calls?

mecrox · 12-07-2016, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

IBIS is not part of the mount Look at E-mount and m43. They added ibis later.

True but I read that the the X mount isn't wide enough to avoid clipping the image circle if IBIS is involved. Might be BS though.

reh321 · 12-07-2016, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

I don't think Ricoh-Imaging is in a position to start a new product line with a new mount that needs a new line of lenses. Not now and not in 2017. So start to put this idea on ice for some years.

But they could release a KAF4-mount MILC.

Float · 12-07-2016, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by grahame

Maybe it was 43mm?

ah yea it was the 43mm and cosina did make it. I wonder if Pentax just gave them the formula for the lens and cosina adapted it to have a short flange?

thibs · 12-07-2016, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by Float

ah yea it was the 43mm and cosina did make it. I wonder if Pentax just gave them the formula for the lens and cosina adapted it to have a short flange?

A tube was added on the back, as simple as that.

Kunzite · 12-08-2016, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by surfar

You tried the first Samsung Galaxy camera? Which was the first "connected" camera? its a point and shoot runs Android 4 point 2(I think)...4.7inch touchscreen. Is that the one you put a Sim card in and thought it could make calls?

I didn't thought it could make calls; I was joking about it with the Samsung rep who - unsuccessfully - tried to sell me on the camera.
But I did thought you could recognize a joke when you see one.

surfar · 12-08-2016, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I was joking about it with the Samsung rep who - unsuccessfully - tried to sell me on the camera

So, you tried the Point and Shooter ....Samsung Galaxy Camera?.....the first one took a sim as well as used WiFi, the second edition was WiFi only...?

is that the camera you tried?

Kunzite · 12-08-2016, 04:23 AM

Yes, and the Galaxy NX. And the NX-1, but that was something else - an almost DSLR-like experience (thanks to its non-Android interface).
And I already had several Android smartphones, all with cameras.

12-07-2016, 05:34 PM	#155
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	For one, Android's UI is unsuitable for a camera. So if I have enough experience to recognize that a camera is flawed, that means I "don't know how to use a POINT & SHOOT"? Try again. And try thinking before posting. Last edited by Kunzite; 12-07-2016 at 05:40 PM.

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12-07-2016, 04:45 PM	#151
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Originally posted by Kunzite as awful as the Galaxy NX. How would you know?

12-07-2016, 05:01 PM	#152
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	How could I not know? It was obvious the first time I tried to operate a Samsung Galaxy camera - the concept is terribly flawed. And you couldn't even make phone calls with it.

12-07-2016, 05:24 PM - 1 Like	#153
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by mecrox Fuji's X mount doesn't have IBIS IBIS is not part of the mount Look at E-mount and m43. They added ibis later.

12-07-2016, 05:32 PM	#154
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Originally posted by Kunzite the concept is terribly flawed In what way? ---------- Post added 12-08-16 at 11:33 AM ---------- Originally posted by Kunzite It was obvious the first time I tried to operate a Samsung Galaxy camera Hmmm, you don't know how to use a POINT & SHOOT?

12-07-2016, 05:35 PM	#156
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Originally posted by Kunzite you couldn't even make phone calls with it. You tried to make phone calls with a camera???....y not use a phone?

12-07-2016, 05:41 PM	#157
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Why not, if it has a SIM card and it's running Android?

12-07-2016, 05:46 PM	#158
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	OK, lets find out exactly what you are talking about please? You tried the first Samsung Galaxy camera? Which was the first "connected" camera? its a point and shoot runs Android 4 point 2(I think)...4.7inch touchscreen. Is that the one you put a Sim card in and thought it could make calls?

12-07-2016, 08:42 PM	#159
mecrox Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxford, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,375	Originally posted by D1N0 IBIS is not part of the mount Look at E-mount and m43. They added ibis later. True but I read that the the X mount isn't wide enough to avoid clipping the image circle if IBIS is involved. Might be BS though.

12-07-2016, 08:52 PM	#160
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 I don't think Ricoh-Imaging is in a position to start a new product line with a new mount that needs a new line of lenses. Not now and not in 2017. So start to put this idea on ice for some years. But they could release a KAF4-mount MILC.

12-07-2016, 09:27 PM	#161
Float New Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 23	Originally posted by grahame Maybe it was 43mm? ah yea it was the 43mm and cosina did make it. I wonder if Pentax just gave them the formula for the lens and cosina adapted it to have a short flange?

12-07-2016, 11:04 PM	#162
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Float ah yea it was the 43mm and cosina did make it. I wonder if Pentax just gave them the formula for the lens and cosina adapted it to have a short flange? A tube was added on the back, as simple as that.

12-08-2016, 12:34 AM	#163
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by surfar You tried the first Samsung Galaxy camera? Which was the first "connected" camera? its a point and shoot runs Android 4 point 2(I think)...4.7inch touchscreen. Is that the one you put a Sim card in and thought it could make calls? I didn't thought it could make calls; I was joking about it with the Samsung rep who - unsuccessfully - tried to sell me on the camera. But I did thought you could recognize a joke when you see one.

12-08-2016, 01:16 AM	#164
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Originally posted by Kunzite I was joking about it with the Samsung rep who - unsuccessfully - tried to sell me on the camera So, you tried the Point and Shooter ....Samsung Galaxy Camera?.....the first one took a sim as well as used WiFi, the second edition was WiFi only...? is that the camera you tried?

12-08-2016, 04:23 AM	#165
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Yes, and the Galaxy NX. And the NX-1, but that was something else - an almost DSLR-like experience (thanks to its non-Android interface). And I already had several Android smartphones, all with cameras.