Pentax "KP" DSLR registered in Indonesia

D1N0 · 01-15-2017, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by ogl

This picture with M-E is not rumor, but old pure fantasy of Japanese magazine.

It's a fantastic rumor then

Not a Number · 01-15-2017, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

It does when the body is about as deep as the hot shoe.

Ricoh could always supply a full function (AF, aperture control etc.) adapter such as Canon does with the EOS M cameras.

D1N0 · 01-15-2017, 03:22 AM

Of course they would, but also screw drive? That would probably make it quite loud. Still doesn't make it K-mount unless the Sony E-mount camera's are now also Canon EF-mount camera's

Kunzite · 01-15-2017, 03:36 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

It does when the body is about as deep as the hot shoe.

You can "bend" the law of physics in your imagination, Star Trek does that all the time

Once again, a genuine (?) leak is put aside while people are talking fantasy.

afan137 · 01-15-2017, 03:43 AM - **2 Likes**

So many imagination, but I will wait the real information. However, if we can relate this pentax KP with their new patent as I read in digicame-info:

Patent list of Ricoh Imaging Corporation
Patent 2016-133765 | intellectual property portal "IP Force"
[publication date] July 25, 2016
[name of invention] shooting equipment accessories
http://ipforce.jp/patent-jp-A-2016-133765

The following seems to be a patent to remotely control from a smartphone, but it is possible to remove the back liquid crystal from the main unit and operate it remotely like a smartphone.

JP 2016-63277 | intellectual property portal "IP Force"
[publication date] April 25, 2016
[name of invention] imaging device and the imaging equipment and the operation terminal
http://ipforce.jp/patent-jp-A-2016-63277

Patent on AF processing.
Is it content that makes it possible to select AF processing by the contrast method and AF processing by the phase difference method according to shooting situation etc.

JP 2016-12094 | intellectual property portal "IP Force"
[publication date] January 21, 2016
camera equipped with the contrast AF function [name of invention]
http://ipforce.jp/patent-jp-A-2016-12094

Kunzite · 01-15-2017, 03:46 AM

Relate in which way, other than pure speculation?

In about a week we should have some specs leaked. Patience.

ebk · 01-15-2017, 03:47 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

There are two things mixing up here.
The Pentax KP which was found in an Indonesian document, and a fantasy MX-1 Q-7 drawing published by a Japanese magazine (It clearly says M-E not KP and it is clearly mirrorless so not K-anything).:

Not the same rumor

Originally posted by Not a Number

Ricoh could always supply a full function (AF, aperture control etc.) adapter such as Canon does with the EOS M cameras.

there is an adapter for Pentax k- lenses to a Pentax Q

afan137 · 01-15-2017, 03:48 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Relate in which way, other than pure speculation?

In about a week we should have some specs leaked. Patience.

Relate with more basis, rather than pure speculation

Kunzite · 01-15-2017, 03:48 AM

ebk:
I'm afraid Ricoh Imaging didn't yet found a way to adapt real lenses to imaginary cameras.

afan137:
What basis?

Simen1 · 01-15-2017, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

It does when the body is about as deep as the hot shoe.

I did take an closer look and I think you are right. The lens looks like the 18-50mm RE. But it is mounted about 1,5 cm away from the main body, with an adapter in between. I can see two buttons, possibly lens release buttons, there. One on the body and one on the K mount adapter.

Pure speculation based on fantasy rumor of corse, but very interesting. If the M-E holds any truth, it means a new mount but probably just a PLE version of the 18-50 RE for K mount for this camera. The adapter size hits of no scew drive. I hope its real and has internal or optional external EVF.

afan137 · 01-15-2017, 03:58 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

ebk:
I'm afraid Ricoh Imaging didn't yet found a way to adapt real lenses to imaginary cameras.

afan137:
What basis?

Asahi man said, that Pentax KP is DSLR with new idea. The basis what I meant was the recent registered patents by Ricoh Imaging. Whether it is coming into reality, we shall see it.
But, honestly I am not going to put high expectation.

Kunzite · 01-15-2017, 04:16 AM

Well, I hope they'll manage to implement some of their most interesting patents. However, "new idea" could be something we don't expect... like those LEDs, for example.
The first patent - replacing back LCD with a smartphone holder or whatever it was - is a terrible idea for a DSLR (which must be a self-contained unit). Variable transmission mirror, expanding the AF area coverage through various means - they have stuff which might revitalize the DSLR concept.

ogl · 01-15-2017, 04:25 AM - **3 Likes**

??2016-133765 | ???????IP Force?

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new method of battery grip attachment

Kunzite · 01-15-2017, 04:46 AM

Thank you - I missed this patent. I guess this answers my question

**RobA_Oz** · 01-15-2017, 04:47 AM

Originally posted by ogl

??2016-133765 | ???????IP Force?
new method of battery grip attachment

Very neat. Nobody should be upset at having to buy a new grip, this time (not that some won't be, of course).

01-15-2017, 03:43 AM - 2 Likes	#170
afan137 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kyoto Posts: 158	So many imagination, but I will wait the real information. However, if we can relate this pentax KP with their new patent as I read in digicame-info: Patent list of Ricoh Imaging Corporation Patent 2016-133765 \| intellectual property portal "IP Force" [publication date] July 25, 2016 [name of invention] shooting equipment accessories http://ipforce.jp/patent-jp-A-2016-133765 The following seems to be a patent to remotely control from a smartphone, but it is possible to remove the back liquid crystal from the main unit and operate it remotely like a smartphone. JP 2016-63277 \| intellectual property portal "IP Force" [publication date] April 25, 2016 [name of invention] imaging device and the imaging equipment and the operation terminal http://ipforce.jp/patent-jp-A-2016-63277 Patent on AF processing. Is it content that makes it possible to select AF processing by the contrast method and AF processing by the phase difference method according to shooting situation etc. JP 2016-12094 \| intellectual property portal "IP Force" [publication date] January 21, 2016 camera equipped with the contrast AF function [name of invention] http://ipforce.jp/patent-jp-A-2016-12094 Last edited by afan137; 01-15-2017 at 04:44 AM.

01-15-2017, 03:47 AM	#172
ebk Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Utrecht Posts: 148	adapter Originally posted by D1N0 There are two things mixing up here. The Pentax KP which was found in an Indonesian document, and a fantasy MX-1 Q-7 drawing published by a Japanese magazine (It clearly says M-E not KP and it is clearly mirrorless so not K-anything).: Not the same rumor Originally posted by Not a Number Ricoh could always supply a full function (AF, aperture control etc.) adapter such as Canon does with the EOS M cameras. there is an adapter for Pentax k- lenses to a Pentax Q

01-15-2017, 03:53 AM	#175
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	Originally posted by D1N0 It does when the body is about as deep as the hot shoe. I did take an closer look and I think you are right. The lens looks like the 18-50mm RE. But it is mounted about 1,5 cm away from the main body, with an adapter in between. I can see two buttons, possibly lens release buttons, there. One on the body and one on the K mount adapter. Pure speculation based on fantasy rumor of corse, but very interesting. If the M-E holds any truth, it means a new mount but probably just a PLE version of the 18-50 RE for K mount for this camera. The adapter size hits of no scew drive. I hope its real and has internal or optional external EVF. Last edited by Simen1; 01-15-2017 at 04:30 AM.

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01-15-2017, 03:16 AM	#166
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by ogl This picture with M-E is not rumor, but old pure fantasy of Japanese magazine. It's a fantastic rumor then

01-15-2017, 03:18 AM	#167
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Originally posted by D1N0 It does when the body is about as deep as the hot shoe. Ricoh could always supply a full function (AF, aperture control etc.) adapter such as Canon does with the EOS M cameras.

01-15-2017, 03:22 AM	#168
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Of course they would, but also screw drive? That would probably make it quite loud. Still doesn't make it K-mount unless the Sony E-mount camera's are now also Canon EF-mount camera's

01-15-2017, 03:36 AM	#169
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by D1N0 It does when the body is about as deep as the hot shoe. You can "bend" the law of physics in your imagination, Star Trek does that all the time Once again, a genuine (?) leak is put aside while people are talking fantasy.

01-15-2017, 03:46 AM	#171
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Relate in which way, other than pure speculation? In about a week we should have some specs leaked. Patience.

01-15-2017, 03:48 AM	#173
afan137 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kyoto Posts: 158	Originally posted by Kunzite Relate in which way, other than pure speculation? In about a week we should have some specs leaked. Patience. Relate with more basis, rather than pure speculation

01-15-2017, 03:48 AM	#174
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	ebk: I'm afraid Ricoh Imaging didn't yet found a way to adapt real lenses to imaginary cameras. afan137: What basis?

01-15-2017, 03:58 AM	#176
afan137 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kyoto Posts: 158	Originally posted by Kunzite ebk: I'm afraid Ricoh Imaging didn't yet found a way to adapt real lenses to imaginary cameras. afan137: What basis? Asahi man said, that Pentax KP is DSLR with new idea. The basis what I meant was the recent registered patents by Ricoh Imaging. Whether it is coming into reality, we shall see it. But, honestly I am not going to put high expectation.

01-15-2017, 04:16 AM	#177
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Well, I hope they'll manage to implement some of their most interesting patents. However, "new idea" could be something we don't expect... like those LEDs, for example. The first patent - replacing back LCD with a smartphone holder or whatever it was - is a terrible idea for a DSLR (which must be a self-contained unit). Variable transmission mirror, expanding the AF area coverage through various means - they have stuff which might revitalize the DSLR concept.

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01-15-2017, 04:46 AM	#179
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Thank you - I missed this patent. I guess this answers my question

01-15-2017, 04:47 AM	#180
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,195	Originally posted by ogl ??2016-133765 \| ???????IP Force? new method of battery grip attachment Very neat. Nobody should be upset at having to buy a new grip, this time (not that some won't be, of course).