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01-24-2017, 06:39 AM   #841
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Success at a failure!

No I'm sure this has a buyer. However, I can't help but think this is more of a K-3 II shoe-horned into a mirrorless-like shell.

That makes me question their motivation.. are they slowly transitioning to mirrorless? Are they just testing the waters? Or is this more of a move to a mirrorless-like body to see if that placates those asking for mirrorless due to size?
I don't find the new look unappealing in any way. It isn't particularly distinctive in the sense that this could only be a Pentax. Instead it is really a distillation of current themes across many camera-makers. There are notes of the Pen-F in the front dial, of the X-T2 in the rounded body shell, and of the Nikon DF in the chunky buttons and dials. Or those cameras all offer notes from this camera and all of them hark back to ideas in cameras of an earlier generation. In the end this is the current design vibe. This new camera doesn't have a focal-point joystick and it looks as if it doesn't have a touchscreen. The result is a plethora of buttons and dials instead which is quite a price to pay but I suppose Pentax are confined by the need to keep it old school and not consider a bold change to camera ergonomics of the kind tried by Leica and Hasselblad recently. In any case, most folks can get on with a new design if they make an effort. I certainly wouldn't have a problem with this one even though it is probably more complex than I actually need. What is really going to count is what's inside this new camera and beyond a couple of generalities, we don't yet know that.

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Now the most important thing are the specs.... not long before we get a leak or official press release...
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I'm posting this before I even finish reading all the preceding posts, just for a bit of balance.

Cameras today look like balloons because internal space is needed to accommodate all the electronics, etc, not because this styling makes the cameras nicer. Younger users are used to this bloated look and feel that is how cameras should look. I am sure I'm not alone in preferring the retro, thinner style. Give me a camera that looks like a Leica M series over the current prevailing dSLR look any day.
I can see that.
Unfortunately I have large hands, so that bloated DSLR design is actually my preference... I've shot my friends a7ii and it feels like I'm holding a toy. After 20 minutes my hand was cramping up.

I actually bought the D-BG5 grip for my K-3ii to add mass to the camera. The extra battery life was a bonus!
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Pentax KP DSLR Images Leaked!!!

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Please, please, I want some good video features....maybe 4k and 1080p 120fps?? ProRes 4:2:2?? Clean hdmi output?? Cmon!! I dont wanna buy a souless sony!!!
Can't even see a HDMI port in the photos, or a headphones jack,... Cinematographers screwed already, wouldn't expect Sensor Shift in Video either.

Can only hope to be proven wrong, but on first view, even liking the looks, it's still NO SALE PENTAX.
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We need specs & pricing info.

But my take: now we understand why the tea leaf readers were saying no new top-end APS-C for a while. This doesn't look like a next-gen APS-C flagship. Maybe it's a design prototype that was given green light, but is probably mostly based on K-3 level hardware. Make it smaller by using weaker battery, but give grip option for more battery life... I'll need to hold one to decide how I feel about the design.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mecrox Quote
it looks as if it doesn't have a touchscreen..
I'll take dials and buttons over touchscreen any day... I really hope Pentax never adapts the touchscreen fad.
I don't want to dive into a touchscreen to change my shutter speed. I've never understood that!
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I can see that.
Unfortunately I have large hands, so that bloated DSLR design is actually my preference... I've shot my friends a7ii and it feels like I'm holding a toy. After 20 minutes my hand was cramping up.

I actually bought the D-BG5 grip for my K-3ii to add mass to the camera. The extra battery life was a bonus!
Me too.. pinky finger flies in open space on K-5 style bodies. I was hoping it would be more the size of the K-1 body which seems a bit taller. If they offered a K-3 II replacement in the K-1 shell, that would probably be OK to me.

Smaller camera bodies are just too small.. not because I can't adjust mentally, but physically it is like handling a toy.

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PENTAX IS DEFINITELY DOOMED.

Understandably nothing can satisfy everybody.
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PENTAX IS DEFINITELY DOOMED.

Understandably nothing can satisfy everybody.
I think it is more a concern, at least on my part, that this has been strongly rumored to be the K-3 II replacement. Yet it doesn't seem like a K-3 II replacement. So either they have a K-3 II replacement coming soon, or they are not actually discontinuing the K-3 II.

Otherwise there is a void in their camera lineup.
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We need specs & pricing info.

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£1,099 according to Nokishita Camera, which is €1,279 and US$1,145.

(remember, EU prices include ca. 20% VAT)
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looks like the real k-3 II replacement was here already. It's called the K-1
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Would be really cool if we could have a 'flat'grip too, to enhance the retro vibe further.
I suspect the answer to that will simply be not to fit any of the grips, though if this camera is as small as I think it's going to be, anyone who wants to use a lens much larger than the limited primes would be well advised to go for the largest grip that's comfortable to them.
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I'll take dials and buttons over touchscreen any day... I really hope Pentax never adapts the touchscreen fad.
I don't want to dive into a touchscreen to change my shutter speed. I've never understood that!
Me either, with respect to the touchscreen.

But I'd still love to have the top LCD panel. It speeds up my productivity using the camera that dials alone cannot do.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
Me too.. pinky finger flies in open space on K-5 style bodies. I was hoping it would be more the size of the K-1 body which seems a bit taller. If they offered a K-3 II replacement in the K-1 shell, that would probably be OK to me.

Smaller camera bodies are just too small.. not because I can't adjust mentally, but physically it is like handling a toy.
agreed.
A K-1 sized K-3III would be ideal for me. new AF system. And put a sensor on the body so when I bring the camera to my eye the rear screen turns off! That's so annoying...
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