Pentax "KP" DSLR registered in Indonesia

Simen1 · 01-22-2017, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by following.eric

New mount. Cheaper and faster lenses. Adaptor for kmount everyone's happy

You must be mixing up the K-P with the M-E rumor. The latter is most likely a fake rumor, but if its true and the sketch have some truth to it, it looks like it has both a new, shorter mount, and a K mount adapter. And yes, if that happens, every Pentaxian should be happy.

However, the K-P that this thread is about, is 99,999% likely K mount (KAF4).

Kunzite · 01-22-2017, 11:46 AM

We know as a fact that the M-E is imaginary. And you're very, very wrong assuming that such a thing would make every Pentaxian happy; I'm sick of this constant MILC propaganda. It's disrespectful towards those of us who chose a DSLR - and guess what, we're on a DSLR brand's forum.

P.S. The K-1 and K-70 and all the other DSLRs supporting up to KAF4 have a KAF2 mount and they do support screw-drive AF and mechanical aperture control; KAF3 and KAF4 designations were used only on the lens side.

joergens.mi · 01-22-2017, 11:58 AM

It will be a K-mount including KAF-4

D1N0 · 01-22-2017, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Simen1

the K-P that this thread is about

KP not K-P looks like a K-x K-r successor.

Kunzite · 01-22-2017, 12:03 PM

A K-p would look like a K-r series camera, except that naming was abandoned a while ago.
The KP... it's another story.

stevebrot · 01-22-2017, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by zapp

but your M and A lenses are not the future and Pentax cannot live on lenses sold 30 years ago.

Consider that both Canon and Minolta fans over a certain age are still sore over their orphaned mounts and that Nikon still provides backward compatibility as well as several ANCIENT manual focus lenses in their current lineup, I would suggest that backward compatibility is not likely to lose value as market currency.

Originally posted by Kunzite

Everyone's happy? Really? How about those who are happy with Pentax?

They don't hang out on the rumor threads...it is against the rules. I only ended up here as a vagrant blown in on an ill wind of fate.

Steve

following.eric · 01-22-2017, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

We know as a fact that the M-E is imaginary. And you're very, very wrong assuming that such a thing would make every Pentaxian happy; I'm sick of this constant MILC propaganda. It's disrespectful towards those of us who chose a DSLR - and guess what, we're on a DSLR brand's forum.

P.S. The K-1 and K-70 and all the other DSLRs supporting up to KAF4 have a KAF2 mount and they do support screw-drive AF and mechanical aperture control; KAF3 and KAF4 designations were used only on the lens side.

Love when a rumour thread goes super serious.

Can they not make a DSLR that would use a new mount for a new design in lenses and allow an adapter for older generation lenses from pentax. Or an adapter for kmount lenses would mean it would have to be fitted on a mirrorless.

I'm Not camera engineer so just curious.

stevebrot · 01-22-2017, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by Clarkey

Still 1/180 for 15 or so years.

A little further back than that. The MZ-S was also 1/180s in 2001 with the rest of the MZ/ZX series being even slower at 1/100s and 1/125s. Strangely the higher models in the Z/PZ series supported 1/250s from the early 1990s until the release of the MZ-S. Go figure...

Steve

Kunzite · 01-22-2017, 12:29 PM

This is not a rumor thread - this is a leak thread. We actually have information that a Ricoh Imaging Pentax KP DSLR exists and should be announced shortly.

There's no point whatsoever in making a DSLR with a new mount; the K-mount itself is very much adequate and, since last year, a fully electronic mount. Everything that can be done for - let's say - the Nikon F mount can be done for the K-mount as well.
Since another DSLR mount would have a registration distance comparable to that of the K-mount, an adapter would not even be possible (one without optics to give you back infinity focus). It would have to fit within a few mm while offering full functionality, and that cannot be done.
But the premise that we'd like adapting our lenses from a perfectly fine mount to another similar mount for no reason whatsoever is silly.

stevebrot · 01-22-2017, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by following.eric

Can they not make a DSLR that would use a new mount for a new design in lenses and allow an adapter for older generation lenses from pentax.

Sure...ask a Sony owner with legacy Minolta glass how they like theirs...

Steve

(hint: the don't...very heavy and bulky...)

**lithedreamer** · 01-22-2017, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by following.eric

Love when a rumour thread goes super serious.

Can they not make a DSLR that would use a new mount for a new design in lenses and allow an adapter for older generation lenses from pentax. Or an adapter for kmount lenses would mean it would have to be fitted on a mirrorless.

I'm Not camera engineer so just curious.

Why? Break compatibility for...what? They couldn't make a new mount with a flange distance as short as mirrorless cameras, so adapting lenses will still be a huge pain. Then everyone will need adapters, too

**Clarkey** · 01-22-2017, 03:05 PM

You know, the D500 was released on 06 Jan 2016.
I wonder if we are going to get that high-speed 21MP sensor? Given the D7000/K-5, and D7200/K-3 release cycles, if this body is a in a new product class it may be possible.

Pure speculation.

stevebrot · 01-22-2017, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by Clarkey

You know, the D500 was released on 06 Jan 2016.
I wonder if we are going to get that high-speed 21MP sensor? Given the D7000/K-5, and D7200/K-3 release cycles, if this body is a in a new product class it may be possible.

Pure speculation.

I would be more interested in its best-in-history AF module.

Steve

x4rd · 01-22-2017, 03:20 PM - **1 Like**

Can we get back to the leaks? New one? Anyone?

**TedH42** · 01-22-2017, 04:49 PM

There are new leaks on this thread:

Pentax_Leaks.com/new_cameras/KP

What goes around comes around.

01-22-2017, 11:46 AM	#527
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	We know as a fact that the M-E is imaginary. And you're very, very wrong assuming that such a thing would make every Pentaxian happy; I'm sick of this constant MILC propaganda. It's disrespectful towards those of us who chose a DSLR - and guess what, we're on a DSLR brand's forum. P.S. The K-1 and K-70 and all the other DSLRs supporting up to KAF4 have a KAF2 mount and they do support screw-drive AF and mechanical aperture control; KAF3 and KAF4 designations were used only on the lens side. Last edited by Kunzite; 01-22-2017 at 11:55 AM.

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01-22-2017, 11:43 AM	#526
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	Originally posted by following.eric New mount. Cheaper and faster lenses. Adaptor for kmount everyone's happy You must be mixing up the K-P with the M-E rumor. The latter is most likely a fake rumor, but if its true and the sketch have some truth to it, it looks like it has both a new, shorter mount, and a K mount adapter. And yes, if that happens, every Pentaxian should be happy. However, the K-P that this thread is about, is 99,999% likely K mount (KAF4).

01-22-2017, 11:58 AM	#528
joergens.mi Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 408	It will be a K-mount including KAF-4

01-22-2017, 11:59 AM	#529
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by Simen1 the K-P that this thread is about KP not K-P looks like a K-x K-r successor.

01-22-2017, 12:03 PM	#530
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	A K-p would look like a K-r series camera, except that naming was abandoned a while ago. The KP... it's another story.

01-22-2017, 12:15 PM	#531
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by zapp but your M and A lenses are not the future and Pentax cannot live on lenses sold 30 years ago. Consider that both Canon and Minolta fans over a certain age are still sore over their orphaned mounts and that Nikon still provides backward compatibility as well as several ANCIENT manual focus lenses in their current lineup, I would suggest that backward compatibility is not likely to lose value as market currency. Originally posted by Kunzite Everyone's happy? Really? How about those who are happy with Pentax? They don't hang out on the rumor threads...it is against the rules. I only ended up here as a vagrant blown in on an ill wind of fate. Steve

01-22-2017, 12:21 PM	#532
following.eric Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Hertford, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 319	Originally posted by Kunzite We know as a fact that the M-E is imaginary. And you're very, very wrong assuming that such a thing would make every Pentaxian happy; I'm sick of this constant MILC propaganda. It's disrespectful towards those of us who chose a DSLR - and guess what, we're on a DSLR brand's forum. P.S. The K-1 and K-70 and all the other DSLRs supporting up to KAF4 have a KAF2 mount and they do support screw-drive AF and mechanical aperture control; KAF3 and KAF4 designations were used only on the lens side. Love when a rumour thread goes super serious. Can they not make a DSLR that would use a new mount for a new design in lenses and allow an adapter for older generation lenses from pentax. Or an adapter for kmount lenses would mean it would have to be fitted on a mirrorless. I'm Not camera engineer so just curious.

01-22-2017, 12:29 PM	#533
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Clarkey Still 1/180 for 15 or so years. A little further back than that. The MZ-S was also 1/180s in 2001 with the rest of the MZ/ZX series being even slower at 1/100s and 1/125s. Strangely the higher models in the Z/PZ series supported 1/250s from the early 1990s until the release of the MZ-S. Go figure... Steve

01-22-2017, 12:29 PM	#534
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	This is not a rumor thread - this is a leak thread. We actually have information that a Ricoh Imaging Pentax KP DSLR exists and should be announced shortly. There's no point whatsoever in making a DSLR with a new mount; the K-mount itself is very much adequate and, since last year, a fully electronic mount. Everything that can be done for - let's say - the Nikon F mount can be done for the K-mount as well. Since another DSLR mount would have a registration distance comparable to that of the K-mount, an adapter would not even be possible (one without optics to give you back infinity focus). It would have to fit within a few mm while offering full functionality, and that cannot be done. But the premise that we'd like adapting our lenses from a perfectly fine mount to another similar mount for no reason whatsoever is silly.

01-22-2017, 12:31 PM	#535
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by following.eric Can they not make a DSLR that would use a new mount for a new design in lenses and allow an adapter for older generation lenses from pentax. Sure...ask a Sony owner with legacy Minolta glass how they like theirs... Steve (hint: the don't...very heavy and bulky...)

01-22-2017, 02:44 PM	#536
lithedreamer Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,799	Originally posted by following.eric Love when a rumour thread goes super serious. Can they not make a DSLR that would use a new mount for a new design in lenses and allow an adapter for older generation lenses from pentax. Or an adapter for kmount lenses would mean it would have to be fitted on a mirrorless. I'm Not camera engineer so just curious. Why? Break compatibility for...what? They couldn't make a new mount with a flange distance as short as mirrorless cameras, so adapting lenses will still be a huge pain. Then everyone will need adapters, too

01-22-2017, 03:05 PM	#537
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	You know, the D500 was released on 06 Jan 2016. I wonder if we are going to get that high-speed 21MP sensor? Given the D7000/K-5, and D7200/K-3 release cycles, if this body is a in a new product class it may be possible. Pure speculation.

01-22-2017, 03:19 PM	#538
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Clarkey You know, the D500 was released on 06 Jan 2016. I wonder if we are going to get that high-speed 21MP sensor? Given the D7000/K-5, and D7200/K-3 release cycles, if this body is a in a new product class it may be possible. Pure speculation. I would be more interested in its best-in-history AF module. Steve

01-22-2017, 03:20 PM - 1 Like	#539
x4rd Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 241	Can we get back to the leaks? New one? Anyone?

01-22-2017, 04:49 PM	#540
TedH42 F/8 & Somewhere Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Colorado Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,412	There are new leaks on this thread: Pentax_Leaks.com/new_cameras/KP What goes around comes around.