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01-30-2017, 12:59 PM - 2 Likes   #481
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QuoteOriginally posted by lithedreamer Quote
Objectives?
He means lenses

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Sorry, not English: lenses.
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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
If you choose to not use the safety devices provided by the manufacturer, that is your choice, but don't blame them. Your original complaint about the grip is totally without merit - the KP is totally safe if you use the provided neck strap. I used my Super Program, with its tiny grip, without incident for eleven years, going through two straps in the process; one of my reasons for finally retiring it was that one of the anchors which the straps attach to finally came off.
Hehe, you could also get the Motor Drive A which needs the grip to be off the camera
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
He means lenses
Yep, it French we mostly use "objectif" for "lens".

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QuoteOriginally posted by thibs Quote
Yep, it French we mostly use "objectif" for "lens".
Any idea about the etymology of that?
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QuoteOriginally posted by lithedreamer Quote
Any idea about the etymology of that?
It's used in English as well. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective_(optics)
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Many languages use some form of "objective" for "camera lens" (Running "camera lens" through Google translate: French, German, Italian, Russian, Polish...)
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In a multi-lens system, "objective" is used for the first lens (or group), or, in simple terms, it's the one closest to the viewing object.

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QuoteOriginally posted by RobA_Oz Quote
In a multi-lens system, "objective" is used for the first lens (or group), or, in simple terms, it's the one closest to the viewing object.
Really? I thought objektiv in norwegian just meant a device with multiple lens elements (and usually a lot of mechanical and electrical parts).
Only a single lens element is called a lens in norwegian.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Simen1 Quote
Really? I thought objektiv in norwegian just meant a device with multiple lens elements (and usually a lot of mechanical and electrical parts).
Only a single lens element is called a lens in norwegian.
Maybe it's only in English, but that was the terminology used when I studied the subject (many years ago, admittedly).
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That is how rifle scopes are diagrammed. The objective lens is the on the end you don't want to be looking at and the ocular lens is the one near the eye piece.
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QuoteOriginally posted by bigjim711 Quote
That is how rifle scopes are diagrammed. The objective lens is the on the end you don't want to be looking at and the ocular lens is the one near the eye piece.
that makes perfect sense of the nomenclature - objective for the thing you're looking at, ocular where your eye goes - probably, in the way of language, uses gets stretched and distorted over time
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that makes perfect sense of the nomenclature - objective for the thing you're looking at, ocular where your eye goes - probably, in the way of language, uses gets stretched and distorted over time
The same nomenclature is used for microscopes and telescopes. A rifle scope is essentially a low powered telescope with a recticle or crosshair.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Simen1 Quote
Really? I thought objektiv in norwegian just meant a device with multiple lens elements (and usually a lot of mechanical and electrical parts).
Only a single lens element is called a lens in norwegian.
True for Scandinavia: You combine lenses to make what we call an objective. It makes sense, really, since the elements are lenses, in the original sense of the word, named after the anatomical part of the eye, which again is named after a lentil - because of the similar shape.

When you combine optical lenses into a camera lens, we Scandinavians used to call it "objektivglas" - which wˇuld translate directly to "objective glass", and that has been shortened to "objektiv". We like short words. We also shortened "automobile" to "bil".

(OK, I guess "lens" IS shorter. But I'm happy we didn't go all the way to "tiv" anyway)
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In Germany "a lens" is "ein Objektiv". A zoom too, called "Teleobjektiv" or simple "Zoom" or simple "Objektiv" (yes we see, it's a zoom).
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