Pentax KP - Specifications

Ian Stuart Forsyth · 01-24-2017, 09:38 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by THoog

I hope it's not the case. The mysterious "hump" on the side of the mirror box appears to be in the same place and of roughly the same size on both. (None of the "sonic boom" bodies has the hump, and I assume it has something to do with the aperture, mirror, or shutter.)

Its housing the aperture control motor

Here is what the K7 looks like

**THoog** · 01-24-2017, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by Ian Stuart Forsyth

Its housing the aperture control motor

Thanks, that's what I thought. I think the K-01 "smokestack" houses a similar motor. If nothing else, the KP shouldn't suffer from the K-30 aperture block failure.

bibz · 01-24-2017, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by mee

Will we see 80 dollar custom, wooden handgrips for this by a 3rd party? Your choice of Teak or Mahogany? haha

Hopefully a massive one that sticks out and has a cold shoe ala 6x7

Ian Stuart Forsyth · 01-24-2017, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by THoog

Thanks, that's what I thought. I think the K-01 "smokestack" houses a similar motor. If nothing else, the KP shouldn't suffer from the K-30 aperture block failure.

If someone has a K30 that is bricked they should take one apart and see how the lever is activated.
This is from memory but one camera had the motor run the shutter and the lever both or was it the mirror, the more I think about it it was some of the lower end Nikons done this.

lightbox · 01-24-2017, 10:29 PM

Pop-up flash: Yassss!

Combined AF/AE-L button: Noooo!

(I guess the separate AF & AE-L buttons are reserved for high end?)

anu l · 01-24-2017, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

Looks good. Still same 27 AF ? Well, we as long as don't know what's under inside the box, we can't tell.

maybe they are reserving more sophisticated AF system for the K-3 II's successor.....

If true, then this would be great.

PiDicus Rex · 01-24-2017, 10:39 PM - **1 Like**

I take it I'm the first one to ask "Where's the HDMI socket?"

If video has no changes - ie, still has no Sensor Shift, useless HDMI, no Peaking while shooting and no choice of decent CoDec, the answer is still, NO SALE.

And pretty much everyone in Cinematography under 30 will be going "No HDMI?, how do I record externally with it?"

I didn't spot Headphone output or USB3 either, so I'd suggest this is the K-s2 replacement, not a K-3 replacement.

anu l · 01-24-2017, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by ogl

Is there are sense to buy KP instead of K-3II or K-70? I don't see any sense....Ricoh makes niche product IMO
Maybe a bit more successful than K-S1...But not much for such price.

maybe price point, If you want an AF system like K-3 II and some other features like more buttons etc from K-3 II, but dont want the pricing of K-3 II, then this is a good deal.

For me the K-70 was very good, but the 11 pt AF was dreadful. Wanted some AF-C tracking - not possible with 11 pts. I also wanted a few more custom buttons, and there are ample on the KP.

wed7 · 01-24-2017, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by anu l

maybe price point, If you want an AF system like K-3 II and some other features like more buttons etc from K-3 II, but dont want the pricing of K-3 II, then this is a good deal.

For me the K-70 was very good, but the 11 pt AF was dreadful. Wanted some AF-C tracking - not possible with 11 pts. I also wanted a few more custom buttons, and there are ample on the KP.

What he said

thibs · 01-24-2017, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by mee

Could be a different sensor. But could just be due to masking?

It has to be a new one if there's electronic shutter.

thibs · 01-24-2017, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by lightbox

Pop-up flash: Yassss!

Combined AF/AE-L button: Noooo!

(I guess the separate AF & AE-L buttons are reserved for high end?)

Fx1, fx2, fx3 should fix this easily.

Mistral75 · 01-24-2017, 11:25 PM

KP price in Japan: ¥137,700 (8% VAT included). ¥137,700 is equivalent to €1,130. The US price could be around $1,100.

Source: Nokishita Camera on Twitter.

lightbox · 01-24-2017, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by thibs

Fx1, fx2, fx3 should fix this easily.

By giving up the primary functions of those buttons?

Fx2 on this camera looks promising, but otherwise I wouldn't want to reassign the DoF preview or Exposure Compensation buttons. I like them too much

By the way everything else looks great; this is really a minor thing I am nit-picking

It looks like there might be little to complain about on this... let's hope

**MetteHHH** · 01-25-2017, 12:52 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

If you want to shoot hummingbirds at 1/24000th at iso 819.200..........then this is your go to camera

That's me! The nocturnal hummingbird photographer!

...I just wonder about the AF. When I compare my birds-in-flight with my Nikon neighbours, this is where I lag behind. My only really good BIFs are flying along the focus plane...

There should be some tiny improvements on AF from my K3 though, possibly?

drawbar · 01-25-2017, 01:10 AM

The screen of KP is not articulating tilt/swivel, like in K-70, but only tilting?

01-24-2017, 11:27 PM	#133
lightbox Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 599	Originally posted by thibs Fx1, fx2, fx3 should fix this easily. By giving up the primary functions of those buttons? Fx2 on this camera looks promising, but otherwise I wouldn't want to reassign the DoF preview or Exposure Compensation buttons. I like them too much By the way everything else looks great; this is really a minor thing I am nit-picking It looks like there might be little to complain about on this... let's hope Last edited by lightbox; 01-25-2017 at 12:47 AM.

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01-24-2017, 09:38 PM - 1 Like	#121
Ian Stuart Forsyth Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,531	Originally posted by THoog I hope it's not the case. The mysterious "hump" on the side of the mirror box appears to be in the same place and of roughly the same size on both. (None of the "sonic boom" bodies has the hump, and I assume it has something to do with the aperture, mirror, or shutter.) Its housing the aperture control motor Here is what the K7 looks like

01-24-2017, 09:43 PM	#122
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Originally posted by Ian Stuart Forsyth Its housing the aperture control motor Thanks, that's what I thought. I think the K-01 "smokestack" houses a similar motor. If nothing else, the KP shouldn't suffer from the K-30 aperture block failure.

01-24-2017, 10:15 PM	#123
bibz Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Newcastle, AU! Posts: 276	Originally posted by mee Will we see 80 dollar custom, wooden handgrips for this by a 3rd party? Your choice of Teak or Mahogany? haha Hopefully a massive one that sticks out and has a cold shoe ala 6x7

01-24-2017, 10:18 PM	#124
Ian Stuart Forsyth Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,531	Originally posted by THoog Thanks, that's what I thought. I think the K-01 "smokestack" houses a similar motor. If nothing else, the KP shouldn't suffer from the K-30 aperture block failure. If someone has a K30 that is bricked they should take one apart and see how the lever is activated. This is from memory but one camera had the motor run the shutter and the lever both or was it the mirror, the more I think about it it was some of the lower end Nikons done this.

01-24-2017, 10:29 PM	#125
lightbox Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 599	Pop-up flash: Yassss! Combined AF/AE-L button: Noooo! (I guess the separate AF & AE-L buttons are reserved for high end?)

01-24-2017, 10:33 PM	#126
anu l Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 216	Originally posted by biz-engineer Looks good. Still same 27 AF ? Well, we as long as don't know what's under inside the box, we can't tell. maybe they are reserving more sophisticated AF system for the K-3 II's successor..... If true, then this would be great.

01-24-2017, 10:39 PM - 1 Like	#127
PiDicus Rex Veteran Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,381	I take it I'm the first one to ask "Where's the HDMI socket?" If video has no changes - ie, still has no Sensor Shift, useless HDMI, no Peaking while shooting and no choice of decent CoDec, the answer is still, NO SALE. And pretty much everyone in Cinematography under 30 will be going "No HDMI?, how do I record externally with it?" I didn't spot Headphone output or USB3 either, so I'd suggest this is the K-s2 replacement, not a K-3 replacement.

01-24-2017, 10:42 PM	#128
anu l Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 216	Originally posted by ogl Is there are sense to buy KP instead of K-3II or K-70? I don't see any sense....Ricoh makes niche product IMO Maybe a bit more successful than K-S1...But not much for such price. maybe price point, If you want an AF system like K-3 II and some other features like more buttons etc from K-3 II, but dont want the pricing of K-3 II, then this is a good deal. For me the K-70 was very good, but the 11 pt AF was dreadful. Wanted some AF-C tracking - not possible with 11 pts. I also wanted a few more custom buttons, and there are ample on the KP.

01-24-2017, 10:46 PM	#129
wed7 Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,421	Originally posted by anu l maybe price point, If you want an AF system like K-3 II and some other features like more buttons etc from K-3 II, but dont want the pricing of K-3 II, then this is a good deal. For me the K-70 was very good, but the 11 pt AF was dreadful. Wanted some AF-C tracking - not possible with 11 pts. I also wanted a few more custom buttons, and there are ample on the KP. What he said

01-24-2017, 11:03 PM	#130
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by mee Could be a different sensor. But could just be due to masking? It has to be a new one if there's electronic shutter.

01-24-2017, 11:15 PM	#131
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by lightbox Pop-up flash: Yassss! Combined AF/AE-L button: Noooo! (I guess the separate AF & AE-L buttons are reserved for high end?) Fx1, fx2, fx3 should fix this easily.

01-24-2017, 11:25 PM	#132
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	KP price in Japan: ¥137,700 (8% VAT included). ¥137,700 is equivalent to €1,130. The US price could be around $1,100. Source: Nokishita Camera on Twitter.

01-25-2017, 12:52 AM - 1 Like	#134
MetteHHH Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,817	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 If you want to shoot hummingbirds at 1/24000th at iso 819.200..........then this is your go to camera That's me! The nocturnal hummingbird photographer! ...I just wonder about the AF. When I compare my birds-in-flight with my Nikon neighbours, this is where I lag behind. My only really good BIFs are flying along the focus plane... There should be some tiny improvements on AF from my K3 though, possibly?

01-25-2017, 01:10 AM	#135
drawbar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Hämeenlinna, Finland Posts: 52	The screen of KP is not articulating tilt/swivel, like in K-70, but only tilting?