[Doundounba]

By the way, this buffer size of 28 / 8 / 7 frames (JPEG / RAW / RAW + JPEG) would be close to that of K-S2 (28 / 9 / 6 but with 20 Mpix sensor and 5.2 fps only) and lower than that of K-70 (47 / 11 / 9 at 6.1 fps).

Why would they give this camera less buffer than the K-70?!

If it doesn't have the K-3 (quiet) shutter and has less buffer than a K-70, it will be considerably less appealing to me...

[bobbotron]

Why would they give this camera less buffer than the K-70?!

If it doesn't have the K-3 (quiet) shutter and has less buffer than a K-70, it will be considerably less appealing to me...

I think people are really dragging conclusions here about the shutter and buffer size.

[rbelyell]

Yet another SLR... how boring! This is not what I longed for. I wish I could mount my numerous old lenses on a body equipped with a state of the art EVF. If Pentax does not come out with one soon, I will probably move to Fuji. The X-T20 is very tempting. It would probably offer a significant jump in IQ over my K5IIs and decent video, unlike the recent APS-C Pentax bodies.

dont be so sure. ive shot fuji and unless youre willing to spend lots of time on PP, i (and many others) found the xtrans sensor yields RAW results that cannot hold a candle to any of fujis competitors. a friendly suggestion is that you borrow or rent a fuji before investing.

fwiw (probably not very much) my personal opinions/observations on the KP are

retro look soley for the sake of 'look' is meaningless. add dedicated iso and SS knobs and make the 'look' meaningful in practice;

again, making it 'look' compact is also meaningless when it is actually heavier than pentaxs existing offerings;

ridiculously high iso option always turn out to be meaningless in practice. the reality is for 99% of people in 99% of real life situations decent results at 6400-12,800 is all thats necessary, unless you live in a cave and do not have access to candles. same for SS over 1/6-8000.

once again, the difference between 24mp and pentaxs existing (and imo outstanding) 20mp cameras will not make a truly discernible difference to 99% of users in 99% of situations;

so, at the end of the day, as another member said above, just another dslr, how disappointing.

i am overwhelmingly happy with the look, size, performance and results of my lowly ks2. if i want 'more' theres the k1. go home folks, nothing to see here.

[mee]

I think people are really dragging conclusions here about the shutter and buffer size.

Dragging ... shutter...

you made a funny!

[normhead]

Interesting, this is the second APS-c camera to include the accelerator unit, that hasn't made it into the flagship APS-c models yet.

So this is a slightly improved K-70.
But, I end up asking, is buffer size really expensive? What's the deal with that?

I guess other people just don't fill their buffers as often as I do.

[miroshi]

Well, k-70 is about 1000 euro and k-3II is about 1300 euro, in Germany...
So the question is, is KP closer to k-3II or to k-70 for this money?

[bobbotron]

Dragging ... shutter...

you made a funny!

My goodness, that was totally a fat finger typing moment on my part.

[D1N0]

Well, k-70 is about 1000 euro and k-3II is about 1300 euro, in Germany...
So the question is, is KP closer to k-3II or to k-70 for this money?

You are talking about kit prices with the 18-135 The K3-II is €949 and the K-70 €699 The KP will be €1299 at launch. It will drop soon enough to 999 is my guess.

[Winder]

We got that image of the Pentax KP with new 24MP Sony sensor and 819200 ISO! - sonyalpharumors sonyalpharumors

[monochrome]

Doesn't appear to have a dedicated rear AF button, so most likely NOT the next APSc flagship.

[boriscleto]

Interesting, this is the second APS-c camera to include the accelerator unit, that hasn't made it into the flagship APS-c models yet.

So this is a slightly improved K-70.
But, I end up asking, is buffer size really expensive? What's the deal with that?

I guess other people just don't fill their buffers as often as I do.

The buffer is so that it doesn't compete with the K-3 II replacement...

[RGlasel]

is buffer size really expensive? What's the deal with that?

Has to be the Not So Prime processors in Pentax cameras. Adding memory doesn't help if the pipeline is too small. I think the accelerator module speeds up internal processing of sensor output, but doesn't move the RAW file to memory any faster. There's a pattern here going back to the delayed launch of the K-1, where Pentax needs a major upgrade in processing power to make major changes in AF performance, video performance and buffer performance. Along with sourcing better electronics, major computer programming is required to match the camera body to the processor. Wouldn't be the first time computer programmers failed to meet their objectives.

[WillWeaverRVA]

Underwhelming in some respects (7 fps, same AF as K-3/K-3 II, D-LI109, small buffer), but really interesting in others (next-generation SR, 819200 ISO, built-in electronic shutter with 1/24,000" shutter speed, PRIME IV).

Doesn't seem quite as good as the K-3 II seemingly by design, so I'm not 100% convinced this is its replacement, but it's pretty good nonetheless. I could see some of the features in an APS-C flagship someday. Definitely fills a gap between the K-70 and the K-3 II/its successor, though.

I wonder if the new features are a teaser for the actual K-3 II successor?

[geomez]

Doesn't appear to have a dedicated rear AF button, so most likely NOT the next APSc flagship.

And no top LCD, no dedicated ISO button, D-LI109, no DoF preview on power switch, and the seam around the strap lugs implies to me that the exterior is composite.

[Belnan]

I like the the look and the size. I dont want a mirrorless. If this was a full frame it would be almost perfect. Who knows maybe the next higher spec'd camera will be exactly that. Pentax may be testing the waters befor going down that road. I hope it is a success.