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01-27-2017, 06:47 AM - 1 Like   #391
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
The changeable grips are the risk to drop camera
Did it happen to you?

01-27-2017, 06:50 AM - 1 Like   #392
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Using a condenser lens in aps-c would result in a much wider coverage:


Make an improved sensor with more AF points and tracking would become a jiffy.
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Software only? I wonder about that.
"Thanks to the optimization of the condenser lens, it also provides an increased number of AF sensor points (33 in total)" - Features5 | PENTAX K-1 | RICOH IMAGING
I read that but I don't buy it. I would if there was an overall higher density of focusing points. In this case, it's only two void spaces that are filled in.

K-3 and K-3 II.


K-1.



Now a look at the AF sensor. K-3 / K-3 II on top, K-1 below.




In both cases there are 9 rows of vertical focus points x 5 lines of horizontal focus points (= 45 potential focus points of which either 27 or 33 are activated) plus 3 lines with a larger rangefinder base, corresponding to 3 more precise focus points (but earlier masked when max. aperture is reduced: they are only useable with f/2.8 or brighter lenses).
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In both cases there are 9 rows of vertical focus points x 5 lines of horizontal focus points (= 45 potential focus points
Actually this is not true generally. The hardware only limits it to 45 cross type sensors.
If you start to play the game of "auxilliary" AF points (same as some other makers do) you could also look at line sensors.
And the number of line sensors in theory is infinite as each "line" is just a software definition of a different part of the two physical line sensors that actually create it.
I guess they could easily add 36 auxiliary line AF points around the 25 cross types just by software definition, even if just to make a marketing move.

There are many parameters to play around with: They could also make the viewfinder a little darker and thereby increase AF operations to get more light by changing the reflectiveness of the semi transparent main mirror.

But most of all is really software plus the speed capacity of the processing hardware.

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
The changeable grips are the risk to drop camera
This sentence doesn't make sense.
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Just because the sensors look the same at first glance doesn't mean they are the same. For instance the K-3/ii sensor has a marking NHAF01 (backwards in the photo) while the K-1 sensor does not.

Why no "line" for the center point?
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Why no "line" for the center point?
Huh? There are all six lines for the center point you can expect.

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QuoteOriginally posted by bobbotron Quote
This sentence doesn't make sense.
English isn't his native language.
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But Ricoh imaging describes KP as having:



and




Features2 | PENTAX KP | RICOH IMAGING

Basically Ricoh claims K-5 / K-5 II levels of protection and shutter reliability.
I think the weather-resistance is one-level down from the flagship products, whatever the marketing material might be trying to suggest. I mean, something is either waterproof or it isn't. And the shutter is nothing special these days at 100,000 actuations, about the minimum anyone claims. Flagship products will offer twice that or more, just another way of saying there's a higher-spec part. Nothing wrong with any of this and of course many comparable cameras don't have any weather resistance at all, but it is mid-range stuff really, not top-end hence an asking price of around 1100 or 1200 rather than 1500 to 1800. Of course Ricoh are going to present these things in the best possible light, that is their job

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QuoteOriginally posted by bobbotron Quote
This sentence doesn't make sense.
If you screw new hand grip not good you can drop camera. No such risk with existent cameras.
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Looking at 7 FPS and 100,000 shutter actuations and how silent it is, I would bet they simply (re)use the K-5IIs shutter mechanism.

And I think there have been zero reasons to complain about the K-5IIs shutter. Ever. Compared to anything. The rest is 12 year old's spec sheet geekery.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
If you screw new hand grip not good you can drop camera. No such risk with existent cameras.
If I've got a screw loose (heh) I'd certainly feel it on the grip.
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QuoteOriginally posted by beholder3 Quote
Looking at 7 FPS and 100,000 shutter actuations and how silent it is, I would bet they simply (re)use the K-5IIs shutter mechanism.

And I think there have been zero reasons to complain about the K-5IIs shutter. Ever. Compared to anything. The rest is 12 year old's spec sheet geekery.
a bit louder than K-5II

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If I've got a screw loose (heh) I'd certainly feel it on the grip.
It could happen suddenly It's not joke.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mecrox Quote
I think the weather-resistance is one-level down from the flagship products, whatever the marketing material might be trying to suggest. I mean, something is either waterproof or it isn't.
None of them is "waterproof" - you shouldn't take it in swimming with you {nor leave it near floor-level in the basement when the sump-pump fails in the middle of a storm as I did once}. There is no reason to question WR characteristics of KP - it has to be at least as good as what my K-30 does, and I've taken it out in storms.

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
If you screw new hand grip not good you can drop camera. No such risk with existent cameras.
Anyone who supports camera by grip only is asking for trouble - that is why straps exist - something you don't see in advance could knock it out of your grasp.
During the eleven years I owned my Super Program, the grip never came even loose, let alone off, and I never heard of one coming off.
You're fishing here for problems that don't exist.
You need to go someplace where they have sunshine.
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