Originally posted by following.eric out of curiosity I hear a lot of people love their 35 and 50 primes. Some people are only prime shooters. I have a 50mm prime from 1988 and it's hands down the best piece of glass I own. But on digital and pentax apsc crops, don't the whole dynamic of those lenses change? now with the crop they function different than on a 35mm film camera.
Are they safe havens because of the focal length even with a crop factor or are they safe havens because of built and quality.
Just curious
Yes. On crop cameras everything about 35mm and 50mm lenses change. To have crop and 35mm FoV, 24mm lens must be used.
For 50mm, a 35mm lens must be used.
Why 35 and 50mm? It is related to the way human eyes and mind see. 35mm is approximation what both eyes see in one considerate glance, and 50mm is what mind sees in more clear focus out of that 35mm scene. They are very natural FoVs, as we approach to subjects following instincts of our eyes and mind, which work (approximately) in those FoVs. So we feel to be at a comfortable distance, and naturally close enough, when using those two FoVs. If we are to naturally appreciate wider FoVs, say 20mm, or more narrow FoVs, say 150mm, it would mean to have a different set of eyes and mind; that of a frog, or a hawk. That is why we approach to such extremes with a sense of wonder and fear. Also, wide and narrow FoVs loose or compress the background more severely, and we notice that too — that is not our everyday experience, it is alien to us.
Although Pentax delivered 35mm Macro Ltd, it was a macro lens, slow in operation and aperture, and the 24mm was lacking. (21mm/3.2 is not truly that useful — they should have made 24/2 instead).
So in a strange way, Pentax cut it itself off the traditional FoVs, and did not deliver
classic lenses for the digital age.
That is why I use Leica for 35mm FoV photography. Please don't blame me! If Pentax delivers 24/2 or 24/1.4 lens usable on crop, I would be more than happy to use a DSLR again. Likewise, if Pentax makes a 35/1.4 or 35/1.8, I would be happy as well to use a DSLR once more. If they make modern 50/1.4 too (current FA is far behind other systems), then they will suddenly attract a wholla lotta more users to the system, both in crop and in FF.
Those three lenses: fast 24, fast 35 and fast 50, made for digital age and with HD coatings etc, would make Pentax system really, really attractive. They are more important IMHO than revamping of the FA Limiteds. 24mm is more important and usable than 31mm, and 35mm is more important and usable than 43mm — ask any good photographer. FA Limiteds are fine to have,
but only when the system has essential FoVs sorted out first.
From what I saw in the lens roadmap, there is hope at least for a new 35 mm and 50mm, so .. fingers crossed!