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**monochrome** · 02-12-2017, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by vjacesslav

K-P is visually smaller K-1. I think control set is copying the K-1 too. My point is that if you buy more FF sensors it makes much better price for each, and with "DX" crop you can use every lens designed for APS-C size. I wish I am wrong in this

The control set (buttons, dials, doors, functions) is mid-range, not K-1.

**monochrome** · 02-12-2017, 02:39 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by vjacesslav

K-P is visually smaller K-1. I think control set is copying the K-1 too. My point is that if you buy more FF sensors it makes much better price for each, and with "DX" crop you can use every lens designed for APS-C size. I wish I am wrong in this

KP looks nothing like a K-1. It is visually distinct from previous body designs.

We don't know what Pentax's supply contract with Sony states. Could be their contract only allows them 7000 FF sensors a month and they need volume in APSc.

Why pay $1,800 to crop your sensor to 16Mp? Pay $1,100 (or $1,400 for the flagship) and keep your 24Mp image using your long lenses

vjacesslav · 02-12-2017, 02:45 PM

Yeah, the CP+ is just behind corner, we will see what Ricoh has prepared for Japan market...

**GlassJunkie** · 02-13-2017, 06:40 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by thibs

Hey, that interests me: what type of scanner did you at the time/and what kind of print size were you able to obtain?
Thanks

It was a friends ~$30000 commercial drum scanner, can't remember brand (a grey unit about the size of a toaster oven) would scan up to 4x5 film..., scanned at 43MP, Fractaled to ~64Mp. As the NYC comedians used to say "It woiked!"...

---------- Post added 02-13-17 at 08:41 AM ----------

Originally posted by monochrome

kp looks nothing like a k-1. It is visually distinct from previous body designs.

We don't know what pentax's supply contract with sony states. Could be their contract only allows them 7000 ff sensors a month and they need volume in apsc.

why pay $1,800 to crop your sensor to 16mp? Pay $1,100 (or $1,400 for the flagship) and keep your 24mp image using your long lenses

absolutely

xmeda · 03-14-2017, 03:24 AM - **1 Like**

Any news, leaks or insider info?

I already have money waiting on shelf.... Ricoh, hurry up! Last year it was late!

Just grab K3 body with flash commander and top display, add fully articulating display from KS2, sensor & SRII from KS3 ehm KP and squeeze in honed AF from K1. Add latest image processor, boost memory for large fast buffer and we are good to go. Competition will be strong as hell.. D7300 is coming soon and D500 already are selling like hot cakes.

My wish-list also contains auto AF correction using LV. More fps than 8 would also be welcomed, but not critical. Dot matrix top display would also be better than LCD and user will be able to select what info to show even if display is smaller.

The Squirrel Mafia · 03-14-2017, 06:43 AM

I'm also waiting for this. Improved AF tracking is what im after. They just need to grab the best recent improvements in the K-70/KP & put it into a flagship body that has faster performance.

ogl · 03-14-2017, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

I'm also waiting for this. Improved AF tracking is what im after. They just need to grab the best recent improvements in the K-70/KP & put it into a flagship body that has faster performance.

Do you really think that Pentax has real tracking AF?

RonHendriks1966 · 03-14-2017, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by xmeda

Any news, leaks or insider info?

It's probably still seven months....

Zygonyx · 03-14-2017, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Do you really think that Pentax has real tracking AF?

Or later

The Squirrel Mafia · 03-14-2017, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Do you really think that Pentax has real tracking AF?

Pentax KP Continous focus test - PentaxForums.com

^ It looks like Pentax has already started working on it. If the KP can track better than the K-3II, the next flagship should track even better with whatever next generation SAFOX they use. One can dream, right? Hahaha!

And yes. I'm being realistic. Not asking for D500 or 7DII level of tracking, but just competent enough tracking. I know that D500 or 7DII type tracking will cost serious money & I don't think Pentax has the resources to do that. I would like for them to prove me wrong, though.

ogl · 03-14-2017, 08:31 AM

As I remember - pentaxforums already made some test with new PLM zoom and they said that hard to call it tracking.

gatorguy · 03-14-2017, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by ogl

As I remember - pentaxforums already made some test with new PLM zoom and they said that hard to call it tracking.

I thought you might stumble on the thread...
I guess we all suffer silently for the most part, not realizing how bad we have it.
This guy and his KP somehow managed to successfully track a moving subject so it sure appears to be some improvement somewhere between the two. I guess your personal experience with the PLM/KP combo didn't turn out as well?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/08amczb/sets/72157677808113914/

**monochrome** · 03-14-2017, 09:33 AM - **1 Like**

I love all the, "Just add {UserList} and get it out there," posts.

Kunzite · 03-14-2017, 09:38 AM

It has to be easy, right? Just adding things?

Well, I'm now struggling with removing something from a product. Which should be trivial, just delete the d*mn thing. Somehow it isn't

ogl · 03-14-2017, 10:07 AM

Pentax has AF-C, not tracking AF system. To say honest, I could put SPORT mode at my K200D and it works. Not very good, but better than AF-C...

here is tracking AF. not miracle, but I don't know when Pentax could have the same...

Youtu.be

03-14-2017, 08:51 AM	#87
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,094	Originally posted by ogl As I remember - pentaxforums already made some test with new PLM zoom and they said that hard to call it tracking. I thought you might stumble on the thread... I guess we all suffer silently for the most part, not realizing how bad we have it. This guy and his KP somehow managed to successfully track a moving subject so it sure appears to be some improvement somewhere between the two. I guess your personal experience with the PLM/KP combo didn't turn out as well? https://www.flickr.com/photos/08amczb/sets/72157677808113914/ Last edited by gatorguy; 03-14-2017 at 09:20 AM.

03-14-2017, 09:33 AM - 1 Like	#88
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	I love all the, "Just add {UserList} and get it out there," posts. Last edited by monochrome; 03-14-2017 at 10:37 AM.

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02-12-2017, 02:37 PM	#76
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by vjacesslav K-P is visually smaller K-1. I think control set is copying the K-1 too. My point is that if you buy more FF sensors it makes much better price for each, and with "DX" crop you can use every lens designed for APS-C size. I wish I am wrong in this The control set (buttons, dials, doors, functions) is mid-range, not K-1.

02-12-2017, 02:39 PM - 3 Likes	#77
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by vjacesslav K-P is visually smaller K-1. I think control set is copying the K-1 too. My point is that if you buy more FF sensors it makes much better price for each, and with "DX" crop you can use every lens designed for APS-C size. I wish I am wrong in this KP looks nothing like a K-1. It is visually distinct from previous body designs. We don't know what Pentax's supply contract with Sony states. Could be their contract only allows them 7000 FF sensors a month and they need volume in APSc. Why pay $1,800 to crop your sensor to 16Mp? Pay $1,100 (or $1,400 for the flagship) and keep your 24Mp image using your long lenses

02-12-2017, 02:45 PM	#78
vjacesslav Marketplace Reseller Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Košice, Czechoslovakia, Europe Union Photos: Gallery Posts: 366	Yeah, the CP+ is just behind corner, we will see what Ricoh has prepared for Japan market...

02-13-2017, 06:40 AM - 1 Like	#79
GlassJunkie Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: St Petersburg Photos: Albums Posts: 402	Originally posted by thibs Hey, that interests me: what type of scanner did you at the time/and what kind of print size were you able to obtain? Thanks It was a friends ~$30000 commercial drum scanner, can't remember brand (a grey unit about the size of a toaster oven) would scan up to 4x5 film..., scanned at 43MP, Fractaled to ~64Mp. As the NYC comedians used to say "It woiked!"... ---------- Post added 02-13-17 at 08:41 AM ---------- Originally posted by monochrome kp looks nothing like a k-1. It is visually distinct from previous body designs. We don't know what pentax's supply contract with sony states. Could be their contract only allows them 7000 ff sensors a month and they need volume in apsc. why pay $1,800 to crop your sensor to 16mp? Pay $1,100 (or $1,400 for the flagship) and keep your 24mp image using your long lenses absolutely

03-14-2017, 03:24 AM - 1 Like	#80
xmeda Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brno Posts: 295	Any news, leaks or insider info? I already have money waiting on shelf.... Ricoh, hurry up! Last year it was late! Just grab K3 body with flash commander and top display, add fully articulating display from KS2, sensor & SRII from KS3 ehm KP and squeeze in honed AF from K1. Add latest image processor, boost memory for large fast buffer and we are good to go. Competition will be strong as hell.. D7300 is coming soon and D500 already are selling like hot cakes. My wish-list also contains auto AF correction using LV. More fps than 8 would also be welcomed, but not critical. Dot matrix top display would also be better than LCD and user will be able to select what info to show even if display is smaller.

03-14-2017, 06:43 AM	#81
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,058	I'm also waiting for this. Improved AF tracking is what im after. They just need to grab the best recent improvements in the K-70/KP & put it into a flagship body that has faster performance.

03-14-2017, 07:13 AM	#82
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia I'm also waiting for this. Improved AF tracking is what im after. They just need to grab the best recent improvements in the K-70/KP & put it into a flagship body that has faster performance. Do you really think that Pentax has real tracking AF?

03-14-2017, 07:29 AM	#83
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by xmeda Any news, leaks or insider info? It's probably still seven months....

03-14-2017, 08:01 AM	#84
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by ogl Do you really think that Pentax has real tracking AF? Or later

03-14-2017, 08:07 AM	#85
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,058	Originally posted by ogl Do you really think that Pentax has real tracking AF? Pentax KP Continous focus test - PentaxForums.com ^ It looks like Pentax has already started working on it. If the KP can track better than the K-3II, the next flagship should track even better with whatever next generation SAFOX they use. One can dream, right? Hahaha! And yes. I'm being realistic. Not asking for D500 or 7DII level of tracking, but just competent enough tracking. I know that D500 or 7DII type tracking will cost serious money & I don't think Pentax has the resources to do that. I would like for them to prove me wrong, though.

03-14-2017, 08:31 AM	#86
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	As I remember - pentaxforums already made some test with new PLM zoom and they said that hard to call it tracking.

03-14-2017, 09:38 AM	#89
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	It has to be easy, right? Just adding things? Well, I'm now struggling with *removing* something from a product. Which should be trivial, just delete the d*mn thing. Somehow it isn't

Seven months before the successor of the K3II?

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