DFA*50 1.4 coming

biz-engineer · 08-24-2017, 10:32 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by ofer4

If only to put this thread out of its misery...

LoL, when the lens is released, only a few of the talkers will buy it, and the rest of the (small) crowd will move to next product release per-announcement agony, there is no end to it.
Actually, one can already spend $40K+ on Pentax product portfolio, but heck NO! never do that, make sure that the most wanted is what's not available. Wanting non existing product saves a lot of money, while if people want a product that's for sale they have to open the credit card, the queuing is much shorter then.

**ffking** · 08-24-2017, 10:41 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

Actually, one can already spend $40K+ on Pentax product portfolio, but heck NO! never do that, make sure that the most wanted is what's not available. Wanting non existing product saves a lot of money, while if people want a product that's for sale they have to open the credit card, that's another story.

point taken, but not entirely fair - I, and I assume a lot of others, want to see Pentax re-established as a brand that's taken seriously outside of Pentaxland, and while I'll probably never buy this lens (for financial reasons), if Ricoh get it right, then it will be a good stride down that path

normhead · 08-25-2017, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by ofer4

If only to put this thread out of its misery...

What fun would that be?

Kunzite · 08-25-2017, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by ffking

point taken, but not entirely fair - I, and I assume a lot of others, want to see Pentax re-established as a brand that's taken seriously outside of Pentaxland, and while I'll probably never buy this lens (for financial reasons), if Ricoh get it right, then it will be a good stride down that path

Riiiight. If they sabotage Pentax hard enough, that surely would improve the brand 's position.
Do you think the full-time complainers are' fair'?

Wheatfield · 08-25-2017, 06:49 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Rondec

What are we talking about?

There is a DFA *50 coming. It will be a really nice, really expensive lens. It will come out later than the folks who really want it expected it would. People will complain about the price and the size and the fact that it wasn't here last week. And maybe the fact that it doesn't have Sony written on the side.

And all this will go out the window when someone buys it and captures an amazing sunset with it at f11 and we just fall in love in love with its flare resistance and the way it renders the soft greens of the image.

Is there anything else?

Other than the K1 has been on the market for over a year and there still isn't a standard lens available for it, no. This is a lens that should have been available at roll out of the K1.

**Rondec** · 08-25-2017, 07:13 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Other than the K1 has been on the market for over a year and there still isn't a standard lens available for it, no. This is a lens that should have been available at roll out of the K1.

I guess it depends on what you mean by a standard lens. Pentax has had the FA 43, FA 50, DA 50 and DA *55 in their line up since the release of the K-1. True, this will be better than those (hopefully), but it is going to be a premium lens and probably most folks will look at it and its price tag and opt for something cheaper.

If there are lenses that are missing, they are the wide angle prime and to a lesser extent the portrait (DFA * 85mm f1.4) prime.

**ffking** · 08-25-2017, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Do you think the full-time complainers are' fair'?

Doesn't mean I shouldn't be

- I was really addressing the point of people with a lot to say about Pentax who don't actually buy the products - in this instance I'll probably be one of them, and I want to be fair on me

Winder · 08-25-2017, 07:26 AM - **1 Like**

6 months and 100+ pages later..... Do we have any idea when the lens will be released and how much it will cost?

mee · 08-25-2017, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by ffking

Doesn't mean I shouldn't be

- I was really addressing the point of people with a lot to say about Pentax who don't actually buy the products - in this instance I'll probably be one of them, and I want to be fair on me

Yes beside anyone who thinks any member of the forums is on a mission to somehow sabotage the brand thinks pretty highly of their influence. I don't think anyone here has that measure of influence haha.

mee · 08-25-2017, 07:31 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Winder

6 months and 100+ pages later.....

This half of your sentence...

Originally posted by Winder

Do we have any idea when the lens will be released and how much it will cost?

...answers this half.

**luftfluss** · 08-25-2017, 08:06 AM

Someday we'll all look back on this thread and shrug...

... and then continue shooting with our Sony's.

Winder · 08-25-2017, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by luftfluss

Someday we'll all look back on this thread and shrug...

... and then continue shooting with our Sony's.

Sadly there is a lot of truth to that. The Sony/Zeiss 55mm F/1.8 is just about the perfect blend of size, image quality, & sharpness.

mee · 08-25-2017, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by luftfluss

Someday we'll all look back on this thread and shrug...

... and then continue shooting with our Sony's.

hahaha this really made me laugh.. but say it isn't so!!

Kunzite · 08-25-2017, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by ffking

Doesn't mean I shouldn't be

- I was really addressing the point of people with a lot to say about Pentax who don't actually buy the products - in this instance I'll probably be one of them, and I want to be fair on me

What's the point of complaining ans asking for things, if you have no intention of buying their products?

---------- Post added 25-08-17 at 08:34 PM ----------

Originally posted by Winder

Sadly there is a lot of truth to that. The Sony/Zeiss 55mm F/1.8 is just about the perfect blend of size, image quality, & sharpness.

And what makes it perfect is the brand

Wheatfield · 08-25-2017, 12:05 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Rondec

I guess it depends on what you mean by a standard lens. Pentax has had the FA 43, FA 50, DA 50 and DA *55 in their line up since the release of the K-1. True, this will be better than those (hopefully), but it is going to be a premium lens and probably most folks will look at it and its price tag and opt for something cheaper.

If there are lenses that are missing, they are the wide angle prime and to a lesser extent the portrait (DFA * 85mm f1.4) prime.

I'll take the dictionary definition for $1000.00 Alex. You have two legacy designed for film lenses and two APS-C lenses listed. I have both the FA 43 and the FA 50. Neither one is stellar on the K1, they are good but not great.
I agree that there are lenses missing in the wide and short tele category as well, whether or not they are more important than a good standard lens is an opinion. My opinion is the fast standard is more important. At the risk of coming across as a bit of a troll, Ricoh really needs to get their act together and put a few lenses out in a hurry. They need an ultra wide (~15mm), and some wides (20mm, 24, 28mm and 35mm), as well as a 50mm f/1.4, an 85/1.4 and a 135/2 or 2.8. These are basic system lenses that need to be available.

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08-24-2017, 10:32 PM - 3 Likes	#1621
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	Originally posted by ofer4 If only to put this thread out of its misery... LoL, when the lens is released, only a few of the talkers will buy it, and the rest of the (small) crowd will move to next product release per-announcement agony, there is no end to it. Actually, one can already spend $40K+ on Pentax product portfolio, but heck NO! never do that, make sure that the most wanted is what's not available. Wanting non existing product saves a lot of money, while if people want a product that's for sale they have to open the credit card, the queuing is much shorter then.

08-24-2017, 10:41 PM - 3 Likes	#1622
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by biz-engineer Actually, one can already spend $40K+ on Pentax product portfolio, but heck NO! never do that, make sure that the most wanted is what's not available. Wanting non existing product saves a lot of money, while if people want a product that's for sale they have to open the credit card, that's another story. point taken, but not entirely fair - I, and I assume a lot of others, want to see Pentax re-established as a brand that's taken seriously outside of Pentaxland, and while I'll probably never buy this lens (for financial reasons), if Ricoh get it right, then it will be a good stride down that path

08-25-2017, 05:02 AM	#1623
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by ofer4 If only to put this thread out of its misery... What fun would that be?

08-25-2017, 06:04 AM	#1624
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by ffking point taken, but not entirely fair - I, and I assume a lot of others, want to see Pentax re-established as a brand that's taken seriously outside of Pentaxland, and while I'll probably never buy this lens (for financial reasons), if Ricoh get it right, then it will be a good stride down that path Riiiight. If they sabotage Pentax hard enough, that surely would improve the brand 's position. Do you think the full-time complainers are' fair'?

08-25-2017, 06:49 AM - 1 Like	#1625
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by Rondec What are we talking about? There is a DFA *50 coming. It will be a really nice, really expensive lens. It will come out later than the folks who really want it expected it would. People will complain about the price and the size and the fact that it wasn't here last week. And maybe the fact that it doesn't have Sony written on the side. And all this will go out the window when someone buys it and captures an amazing sunset with it at f11 and we just fall in love in love with its flare resistance and the way it renders the soft greens of the image. Is there anything else? Other than the K1 has been on the market for over a year and there still isn't a standard lens available for it, no. This is a lens that should have been available at roll out of the K1.

08-25-2017, 07:13 AM - 1 Like	#1626
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	Originally posted by Wheatfield Other than the K1 has been on the market for over a year and there still isn't a standard lens available for it, no. This is a lens that should have been available at roll out of the K1. I guess it depends on what you mean by a standard lens. Pentax has had the FA 43, FA 50, DA 50 and DA 55 in their line up since the release of the K-1. True, this will be better than those (hopefully), but it is going to be a premium lens and probably most folks will look at it and its price tag and opt for something cheaper. If there are lenses that are missing, they are the wide angle prime and to a lesser extent the portrait (DFA 85mm f1.4) prime.

08-25-2017, 07:13 AM	#1627
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by Kunzite Do you think the full-time complainers are' fair'? Doesn't mean I shouldn't be - I was really addressing the point of people with a lot to say about Pentax who don't actually buy the products - in this instance I'll probably be one of them, and I want to be fair on me

08-25-2017, 07:26 AM - 1 Like	#1628
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	6 months and 100+ pages later..... Do we have any idea when the lens will be released and how much it will cost?

08-25-2017, 07:29 AM	#1629
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by ffking Doesn't mean I shouldn't be - I was really addressing the point of people with a lot to say about Pentax who don't actually buy the products - in this instance I'll probably be one of them, and I want to be fair on me Yes beside anyone who thinks any member of the forums is on a mission to somehow sabotage the brand thinks pretty highly of their influence. I don't think anyone here has that measure of influence haha.

08-25-2017, 07:31 AM - 1 Like	#1630
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by Winder 6 months and 100+ pages later..... This half of your sentence... Originally posted by Winder Do we have any idea when the lens will be released and how much it will cost? ...answers this half.

08-25-2017, 08:06 AM	#1631
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Someday we'll all look back on this thread and shrug... ... and then continue shooting with our Sony's.

08-25-2017, 08:14 AM	#1632
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by luftfluss Someday we'll all look back on this thread and shrug... ... and then continue shooting with our Sony's. Sadly there is a lot of truth to that. The Sony/Zeiss 55mm F/1.8 is just about the perfect blend of size, image quality, & sharpness.

08-25-2017, 09:15 AM	#1633
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by luftfluss Someday we'll all look back on this thread and shrug... ... and then continue shooting with our Sony's. hahaha this really made me laugh.. but say it isn't so!!

08-25-2017, 10:29 AM	#1634
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by ffking Doesn't mean I shouldn't be - I was really addressing the point of people with a lot to say about Pentax who don't actually buy the products - in this instance I'll probably be one of them, and I want to be fair on me What's the point of complaining ans asking for things, if you have no intention of buying their products? ---------- Post added 25-08-17 at 08:34 PM ---------- Originally posted by Winder Sadly there is a lot of truth to that. The Sony/Zeiss 55mm F/1.8 is just about the perfect blend of size, image quality, & sharpness. And what makes it perfect is the brand

08-25-2017, 12:05 PM - 2 Likes	#1635
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by Rondec I guess it depends on what you mean by a standard lens. Pentax has had the FA 43, FA 50, DA 50 and DA 55 in their line up since the release of the K-1. True, this will be better than those (hopefully), but it is going to be a premium lens and probably most folks will look at it and its price tag and opt for something cheaper. If there are lenses that are missing, they are the wide angle prime and to a lesser extent the portrait (DFA 85mm f1.4) prime. I'll take the dictionary definition for $1000.00 Alex. You have two legacy designed for film lenses and two APS-C lenses listed. I have both the FA 43 and the FA 50. Neither one is stellar on the K1, they are good but not great. I agree that there are lenses missing in the wide and short tele category as well, whether or not they are more important than a good standard lens is an opinion. My opinion is the fast standard is more important. At the risk of coming across as a bit of a troll, Ricoh really needs to get their act together and put a few lenses out in a hurry. They need an ultra wide (~15mm), and some wides (20mm, 24, 28mm and 35mm), as well as a 50mm f/1.4, an 85/1.4 and a 135/2 or 2.8. These are basic system lenses that need to be available.